Actually, I think it's people like Bill Clinton and Ted Turner who give older adults a bad name....
What the original poster was driving at (if I may be presumptuous) was the idea that young people who are really good at what they do somehow expect to get instant rewards and live like kings and queens. Us "older" people remember a day when the adage "Good things come to those who wait" applied to the area of employment.
Patience is a virtue. But, like you said, the generation responsible for producing the current crop of 20-somethings have failed in teaching any of the virtues, mainly because they stopped practicing them themselves back in the 60's and 70's.
--soapbox mode off--
"I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!" --Monty Python
I must say that when I saw the name "Kohn", I chuckled to myself.
I read a lengthy piece by Kohn about twelve years ago in an honors course at IU, and, if I remember correctly, Kohn had embedded in his own arguments against competitive societal arrangements the kind of logic that would draw one to conclude that any other kind of arrangements, given human nature, were impossible to achieve on any large scale. (ie - he shot down his own argument.)
The short of it - he's one of those "Coercive Utopians", which is the title of another book I read around that time, and which I highly recommend. (I don't remember the two author's names, but I'm sure it's listed on Amazon.com too.)
BTW, the most fun games I played as a kid were "positive sum" games.....we all came in more tired, more hungry, and in more pain than when we started!
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Actually, I think it's people like Bill Clinton and Ted Turner who give older adults a bad name....
What the original poster was driving at (if I may be presumptuous) was the idea that young people who are really good at what they do somehow expect to get instant rewards and live like kings and queens. Us "older" people remember a day when the adage "Good things come to those who wait" applied to the area of employment.
Patience is a virtue. But, like you said, the generation responsible for producing the current crop of 20-somethings have failed in teaching any of the virtues, mainly because they stopped practicing them themselves back in the 60's and 70's.
--soapbox mode off--
"I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!" --Monty Python
I must say that when I saw the name "Kohn", I chuckled to myself.
I read a lengthy piece by Kohn about twelve years ago in an honors course at IU, and, if I remember correctly, Kohn had embedded in his own arguments against competitive societal arrangements the kind of logic that would draw one to conclude that any other kind of arrangements, given human nature, were impossible to achieve on any large scale. (ie - he shot down his own argument.)
The short of it - he's one of those "Coercive Utopians", which is the title of another book I read around that time, and which I highly recommend. (I don't remember the two author's names, but I'm sure it's listed on Amazon.com too.)
BTW, the most fun games I played as a kid were "positive sum" games.....we all came in more tired, more hungry, and in more pain than when we started!