well if you knew Linux's packet filtering (iptables(8)) you would know it's all kernel level and doesn't require a running process. the kernel doesn't even use up a PID like kjournald or keventd for the filtering. going into a halted state makes sure your firewall isn't doing anything else (like sshd or ftpd) that would compromise security, but of course you couldn't change anything without rebooting.
The fact that MS is a software company should allow them to include whatever they want in their OS, not cater to the weaker competitor.
it's not really catering to the weaker competitor if you're allowing the customer to choose not to use you. last time I checked you still couldn't uninstall IE from Win98, but I was a Netscape fan back when I got 98 and I wanted IE to have no part of my system. I was hoping DoJ would help me on this part. but anyways, MS needs to learn to segment their operating systems and allow their customers to have the final choice (whether they believe them to be knowledgeable enough to or not). maybe the OEM likes Netscape or Opera, it should be their choice too as they may wish to market a system with Netscape or Opera pre-installed for all those people out there disappointed with MSIE. capitalism is about an open market where everyone has an equal chance to succeed according to their abilities, and creating a nearly all-inclusive platform (since people "need" Windows for PC anyway) is not healthy.
oh and AOL really is stupid though for suing a company they're so dependant on. AOL IM was and I think still is coded in Visual C++ (or something like that) and I guess AOL itself is still a lot of MS programming. maybe they should sue after they cut the strings.
Isn't that like GM being forced to give the option to include either their own air-conditioning system, or one from Ford!
Well if Ford made only air conditioners that would have been debated. However, Netscape does not make an OS nor ever will. An operating system should be a platform to run software under, not to promote, sell, and ultimately force people to possess (whether or not they use it or buy it) another piece of software. How many WordPerfect or StarOffice users do you think would be pissed off if MS integrated an LE of MS-Office into their next version of Windows?
As for AOL, I think it is also wrong on their part to turn around and sue because as I remember back from the 3.0 and 4.0 days, MSIE was integrated into their software and though they claimed to allow you to install Netscape for AOL, I never got that to work. Someone help me out with this, I don't have AOL anymore so I don't know.
by the way I use Mozilla under GNU/Linux and have been for 2 years
I dunno, my SB PCI512 worked just fine (except for MIDI), and it has the same chipset and uses the same kernel module as SB Live. It was the damn p.o.s. Radeon that kept crashing my X server (not to mention it's OpenGL support sucked).
Yeah back in the late 80's and early 90's when DOS was all I had, a GUI seemed like the answer to all my problems, but it ended up being that many things were still "easier in DOS." Now that I switched completely over to GNU/Linux, I still drop to a shell (very often) for file management, editing, etc. One of the biggest things that keeps me in GNU/Linux is the fact that I have a choice of shell or X and always will.
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well if you knew Linux's packet filtering (iptables(8)) you would know it's all kernel level and doesn't require a running process. the kernel doesn't even use up a PID like kjournald or keventd for the filtering. going into a halted state makes sure your firewall isn't doing anything else (like sshd or ftpd) that would compromise security, but of course you couldn't change anything without rebooting.
The fact that MS is a software company should allow them to include whatever they want in their OS, not cater to the weaker competitor.
it's not really catering to the weaker competitor if you're allowing the customer to choose not to use you. last time I checked you still couldn't uninstall IE from Win98, but I was a Netscape fan back when I got 98 and I wanted IE to have no part of my system. I was hoping DoJ would help me on this part. but anyways, MS needs to learn to segment their operating systems and allow their customers to have the final choice (whether they believe them to be knowledgeable enough to or not). maybe the OEM likes Netscape or Opera, it should be their choice too as they may wish to market a system with Netscape or Opera pre-installed for all those people out there disappointed with MSIE. capitalism is about an open market where everyone has an equal chance to succeed according to their abilities, and creating a nearly all-inclusive platform (since people "need" Windows for PC anyway) is not healthy.
oh and AOL really is stupid though for suing a company they're so dependant on. AOL IM was and I think still is coded in Visual C++ (or something like that) and I guess AOL itself is still a lot of MS programming. maybe they should sue after they cut the strings.
Isn't that like GM being forced to give the option to include either their own air-conditioning system, or one from Ford!
Well if Ford made only air conditioners that would have been debated. However, Netscape does not make an OS nor ever will. An operating system should be a platform to run software under, not to promote, sell, and ultimately force people to possess (whether or not they use it or buy it) another piece of software. How many WordPerfect or StarOffice users do you think would be pissed off if MS integrated an LE of MS-Office into their next version of Windows?
As for AOL, I think it is also wrong on their part to turn around and sue because as I remember back from the 3.0 and 4.0 days, MSIE was integrated into their software and though they claimed to allow you to install Netscape for AOL, I never got that to work. Someone help me out with this, I don't have AOL anymore so I don't know.
by the way I use Mozilla under GNU/Linux and have been for 2 years
I dunno, my SB PCI512 worked just fine (except for MIDI), and it has the same chipset and uses the same kernel module as SB Live. It was the damn p.o.s. Radeon that kept crashing my X server (not to mention it's OpenGL support sucked).
If Bill Gates is the father of open source then why did the Department of Justice have to force him to give out parts of Windows' source code?
Yeah back in the late 80's and early 90's when DOS was all I had, a GUI seemed like the answer to all my problems, but it ended up being that many things were still "easier in DOS." Now that I switched completely over to GNU/Linux, I still drop to a shell (very often) for file management, editing, etc. One of the biggest things that keeps me in GNU/Linux is the fact that I have a choice of shell or X and always will.