He said "graphical environment" not "graphical interface."
You're right, interfaces aren't consistant across all applications. However, they all use the same environment to get the interface they desire.
On Linux, you have multiple environments in which to create the interface for your application. You can create an interface that looks exactly like a program running on windows but that doesn't mean you can run it in the same environment.
Why are all mac users in general so militantly close minded?
That's an unfair, broad assumption. I assert that there are just as many zealots (percent-wise) for MacOS as there are Linux and Windows __.
Sure the mac OS used to be superior than Windows but that's just it. the keyword here people is USED. [snip] try running 3 apps at the same time and see the mac crash.
I'm running five right now, including a file server. The only way I've managed to regularly crash my Mac is to push IE too far (10 windows open while I switch between apps quickly).
OSX is a needed improvement and some serious potentials to compete with Windows. But OSX is not so innovative and revolutionary. Most of it's 'modern' features like multi-threading and advanced networking capabilities are actually features that already existed on other OS (Windows NT, Linux, Solaris,...etc)
Yea, it's all been done before. Why make a big deal when people just rehash something that's already been done? Even if they do it well and it's an improvement to those 'modern' features, it's not a big deal because *insert product* has done it already so it can't possibly be innovative.
I know, "sarcasm is the recourse of a weak mind."
Fortunately for me, I have a weak mind so I can recourse to it.;)
As far as ease of use goes. The current Windows OS are just as easy to navigate as a mac. For crying out loud, even my 2 yr. old can navigate Windows. You gotta be pretty stupid (pardon my politically-incorrectness) to not be able to learn how to navigate on a Windows machine.
The average 2yr old doesn't have to install new hardware, set up a network, install software, or use business software. If yours does, I'd like to hire him/her.;)
Let's see, you've targeted the Mac's lack of multithreading, "advanced network capabilities" (which I don't know how you think that, unless you expect an OS to come with servers pre-installed), and the fact that Windows is just as easy to use. Did I miss something...oh yes...the obligatory price argument.
The key phrase you used was "I put together." You saved a lot of money putting the thing together yourself. Let's see...how about a Mac...
128MB RAM
iMac 500MHz
20GB Ultra ATA
CD-RW
$1300
I know, I know...I don't like iMacs either but just because you don't like them doesn't mean they don't count. I forgot to make the RAM 256MB but you get the point.
Geesh. I'm in a mood today, I just love getting into a disagreement!
Actually, I'm a BeOS advocate so it goes like this:
1) Realize that there is hardly any hardware support.
2) Find out that there is almost no software.
3) Sigh heavily because you really liked that OS.
4) Move on.
As a linux advocate, you have several options:
1) "Oh yeah! Well...er...it can't do [enter a feature here]!"
2) "Yeah, but their [type of computer] costs $[several thousand dollars]!"
3) "Yeah, so? I never cared that Linux made it to the desktop. As long as it's free and available to the masses, it's fine with me."
4) "Let's learn from what Apple has done and make Linux even better! Discuss."
5) "Linux is for 3l33t h4ck3rz!" (excuse me if I did that wrong, for I am not elite nor a hacker)
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He said "graphical environment" not "graphical interface."
You're right, interfaces aren't consistant across all applications. However, they all use the same environment to get the interface they desire.
On Linux, you have multiple environments in which to create the interface for your application. You can create an interface that looks exactly like a program running on windows but that doesn't mean you can run it in the same environment.
Emphasis added for clarity.
Why are all mac users in general so militantly close minded?
;)
;)
That's an unfair, broad assumption. I assert that there are just as many zealots (percent-wise) for MacOS as there are Linux and Windows __.
Sure the mac OS used to be superior than Windows but that's just it. the keyword here people is USED. [snip] try running 3 apps at the same time and see the mac crash.
I'm running five right now, including a file server. The only way I've managed to regularly crash my Mac is to push IE too far (10 windows open while I switch between apps quickly).
OSX is a needed improvement and some serious potentials to compete with Windows. But OSX is not so innovative and revolutionary. Most of it's 'modern' features like multi-threading and advanced networking capabilities are actually features that already existed on other OS (Windows NT, Linux, Solaris,...etc)
Yea, it's all been done before. Why make a big deal when people just rehash something that's already been done? Even if they do it well and it's an improvement to those 'modern' features, it's not a big deal because *insert product* has done it already so it can't possibly be innovative.
I know, "sarcasm is the recourse of a weak mind."
Fortunately for me, I have a weak mind so I can recourse to it.
As far as ease of use goes. The current Windows OS are just as easy to navigate as a mac. For crying out loud, even my 2 yr. old can navigate Windows. You gotta be pretty stupid (pardon my politically-incorrectness) to not be able to learn how to navigate on a Windows machine.
The average 2yr old doesn't have to install new hardware, set up a network, install software, or use business software. If yours does, I'd like to hire him/her.
Let's see, you've targeted the Mac's lack of multithreading, "advanced network capabilities" (which I don't know how you think that, unless you expect an OS to come with servers pre-installed), and the fact that Windows is just as easy to use. Did I miss something...oh yes...the obligatory price argument.
The key phrase you used was "I put together." You saved a lot of money putting the thing together yourself. Let's see...how about a Mac...
128MB RAM
iMac 500MHz
20GB Ultra ATA
CD-RW
$1300
I know, I know...I don't like iMacs either but just because you don't like them doesn't mean they don't count. I forgot to make the RAM 256MB but you get the point.
Geesh. I'm in a mood today, I just love getting into a disagreement!
Actually, I'm a BeOS advocate so it goes like this:
1) Realize that there is hardly any hardware support.
2) Find out that there is almost no software.
3) Sigh heavily because you really liked that OS.
4) Move on.
As a linux advocate, you have several options: 1) "Oh yeah! Well...er...it can't do [enter a feature here]!" 2) "Yeah, but their [type of computer] costs $[several thousand dollars]!" 3) "Yeah, so? I never cared that Linux made it to the desktop. As long as it's free and available to the masses, it's fine with me." 4) "Let's learn from what Apple has done and make Linux even better! Discuss." 5) "Linux is for 3l33t h4ck3rz!" (excuse me if I did that wrong, for I am not elite nor a hacker)