I was watching an event yesterday and actually checked their
website during an event when NBC flashed the 'log on for more info' banner at
the bottom of the screen.
What 'extra info' did I find out?
How about the final results of the event that I watching.
Nice one NBC. I'm getting to the point that
I can't even watch a tape of the events because
it's hard to find the actual events when
fast forwarding past 1/3 commercials, 1/2 sob&banter.
Its really criminal how hypocritical NBC is. they have the gaul to broadcast those painful profiles of people from small countries who have fought dictatorships in the name of victory and game and sport.... trying to promote that universal brotherhood schmaltz... and then they are demonstrating the most severe case of mind control with the ads and the monopolozation of the airwaves.
This seems to be the most overlooked issue with the gui 'environments' for unix. Imagine if ^X ^C ^V were different in every app? Windows drives me crazy with different keys being mapped to nearly the same function between apps. The Mac gui seems to hate supporting the keyboard but at least there are a few keyboard shortcuts that are common between apps. (there weren't even arrow keys on the original macs!) I haven't used enough KDE/GNOME apps to see if they have a well thought out keyboard shortcut & navigation scheme but from what I've seen I'd have to say NO and that makes me very concerned. ( I can't even navigate the directory tree (+/-) in gnome using midnight commander. I want to simply tab to the tree structure and press my arrow keys to open/close directories. Am I missing something here? ) Common functions (cut/copy/paste/close-win/ min-win/cycle-wins/file-save,open/etc..) should all be the same in each app and it would be nice if the user could map the keys. Keyboard Nav (tab, text selection,menu nav, button press , etc...) needs to be consistent well supported. Modifier keys need to modify consistently. Not alt here, control here, shift-alt for no reason. And finally any GUI needs to remember where the windows were and what they looked like. (this needs to be built into the gui toolkit because programmers rarely support this) I don't want to search all over my file system in and open/save dialog because the programmer didn't want to keep track of the last used/visted directory. When I open a folder (or link to) the file manager should remember the window size and file layout. (even windud does this)
I agree with many points. The thing that has always set apart Mac from Windows is it desktop-db and file meta data. (I've always thought windows was too keyboard oriented and the Mac was too mouse oriented or should I say doesn't have enough keyboard support)
Gnome needs a lot of work. I'd like to see it suceed but it'll need much better keyboard support and a cleaner and more complete environment to ever have a chance of winning over the average desktop user.
Standard and simple keyboard short-cuts need to be defined now if not built into the api. F3 to open a file? Huh?
When a program opens a file dialog it should always remember where it last or at least default to a users 'home/desktop dir'.
So... I'd like to sum up my suggestions about gnome.
1. Better keyboard support. 2. Better tracking of state. 3. Cleaner / More Defined environment
Either way both KDE and GNOME knock the socks off any other gui I've seen for unix. I can't believe how band Motif was/is, how clunky and difficult it is to use. It's a bad sign when MS can do better. I sure hope someone or group focuses on the environment and not just widgets or the themes or api. UI basics, eg style guide or some other document no one reads.
Then again I'd wouldn't mind just being able to paste text from my gnome terminal into gedit.
Wow... I guess anything that's not in the windows mindset sucks for you. Well stick with windows then or maybe try KDE. KDE does a nice job of building on the Win95 UI.
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I was watching an event yesterday and actually checked their
.... trying to promote that universal brotherhood schmaltz ... and then they are demonstrating the most severe case of mind control with the ads and the monopolozation of the airwaves.
website during an event when NBC flashed the 'log on for more info' banner at
the bottom of the screen.
What 'extra info' did I find out?
How about the final results of the event that I watching.
Nice one NBC. I'm getting to the point that
I can't even watch a tape of the events because
it's hard to find the actual events when
fast forwarding past 1/3 commercials, 1/2 sob&banter.
Its really criminal how hypocritical NBC is. they have the gaul to broadcast those painful profiles of people from small countries who have fought dictatorships in the name of victory and game and sport
This seems to be the most overlooked issue with the gui 'environments' for unix. Imagine if ^X ^C ^V were different in every app? Windows drives me crazy with different keys being mapped to nearly the same function between apps. The Mac gui seems to hate supporting the keyboard but at least there are a few keyboard shortcuts that are common between apps. (there weren't even arrow keys on the original macs!) I haven't used enough KDE/GNOME apps to see if they have a well thought out keyboard shortcut & navigation scheme but from what I've seen I'd have to say NO and that makes me very concerned. ( I can't even navigate the directory tree (+/-) in gnome using midnight commander. I want to simply tab to the tree structure and press my arrow keys to open/close directories. Am I missing something here? ) Common functions (cut/copy/paste/close-win/ min-win/cycle-wins/file-save,open/etc..) should all be the same in each app and it would be nice if the user could map the keys. Keyboard Nav (tab, text selection,menu nav, button press , etc...) needs to be consistent well supported. Modifier keys need to modify consistently. Not alt here, control here, shift-alt for no reason. And finally any GUI needs to remember where the windows were and what they looked like. (this needs to be built into the gui toolkit because programmers rarely support this) I don't want to search all over my file system in and open/save dialog because the programmer didn't want to keep track of the last used/visted directory. When I open a folder (or link to) the file manager should remember the window size and file layout. (even windud does this)
I agree with many points. The thing that has always set apart Mac from Windows is it desktop-db and file meta data. (I've always thought windows was too keyboard oriented and the Mac was too mouse oriented or should I say doesn't have enough keyboard support)
Gnome needs a lot of work. I'd like to see it suceed but it'll need much better
keyboard support and a cleaner and more complete environment to ever have a chance of winning
over the average desktop user.
Standard and simple keyboard short-cuts need
to be defined now if not built into the api. F3 to open a file? Huh?
When a program opens a file dialog it should always remember where it last or at least default to a users 'home/desktop dir'.
So... I'd like to sum up my suggestions about gnome.
1. Better keyboard support.
2. Better tracking of state.
3. Cleaner / More Defined environment
Either way both KDE and GNOME knock the socks off any other gui I've seen for unix.
I can't believe how band Motif was/is, how clunky
and difficult it is to use. It's a bad sign when MS can do better. I sure hope someone or group focuses on the environment and not just widgets or the themes or api. UI basics, eg style guide
or some other document no one reads.
Then again I'd wouldn't mind just being able to paste text from my gnome terminal into gedit.
Wow... I guess anything that's not in the
windows mindset sucks for you. Well stick
with windows then or maybe try KDE. KDE
does a nice job of building on the Win95 UI.