In this you are right. It was an exageration. My first post is much more on the nose: there are unpatched local privilege escalation bugs in windows unpatched and known for years now.
Thats what I get for sending you to do the math. Im still too lazy to go check it out and look at methods, years and the rest.
||sarcasm|| I take your analysis as true and hereby declare that windows has been exploited lesser than linux, has less malware against and is inherently less prone to attack than linux or turning into a braindead spamzombie than linux. ||end sarcasm||
If they take more than a week, then all their work will be for nothing. Patch is in main kernel as of today and yes, linux servers are generaly easy to update.
How the hell can you mod if youre posting? Do you keep an extra account with modpoints somewhere or get help from friends? Wow, pretty sophisticated.
Or do we have a bitch ass whiner account now @/. to report "offensive" posts? It would be a crappy day for me if this was the case.
And no. You like to tag me as a fanboi because of what I said. Here: Oh...
So it was disclosed the 11th of august and linus has a patch today, HUH? GOOD THING: QUICK PATCH
There are YEAR OLD bugs with this exact level of danger that microsoft simply has not patched and still refuses to patch. ABSOLUTE TRUTH TO ANYONE IN THE SECURITY INDUSTRY
Fuck you, I love my os BECAUSE i know beforehand that it will be fixed in no time.... For this case, even you say im right
Windows people are just plain stupid, really. I dont think YOU are a windows user, I pitty you if you are forced to be one.
No need to say anything else, "foe" (i think you're the only person that uses the friend-foe system at/.).
No company, person or group can be accused of fixing what they dont know about. If there hasn't been any kind of in-the-wild exploit for this, and for know it hasnt (there will SURE be some very soon, but thats only because of this particular disclosure and can be thwarted by updating), then its safe to say that all that COULD be done, was done for fixing this bug and in no particular way does it make the Linux kernel less secure than any of its competitors.
On the other hand, the timely fashion in which it was patched leads me to conclude that the FOSS model is much more secure as it gets patches faster out the door once an exploit has been discovered.
No no, not run-of-the-mill: ive hated microsoft for a big while and still find it very, very fun to let people know how this company could'nt care less for the security of their customer's information.
I like to talk about it specially since MS has contracted some good PR firms to come into slashdot to attempt some trolling that is always easy to spot.
Do YOU know how many undiscovered bugs are in windows?
NO!
Because hell, YOU CANT KNOW what you dont have access to. Linux, at least, can be checked and rechecked and sooner or later someone will find the bug.
In the case of windows, perhaps even now there are tremendous remote root exploits that are being actively used that you dont know about. And if those follow the trends of virii or other exploit info that is available, its probably a number of undisclosed exploits like 100000 larger than all you could find in Linux.
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In this you are right. It was an exageration. My first post is much more on the nose: there are unpatched local privilege escalation bugs in windows unpatched and known for years now.
How can they all be rootkitted if its a local root exploit, not a remote one.
How about that. Have you caught it yet?
Kernel 2.0 and 2.2 are WAY older than windows 2000.
Your stats suck, linux is still king. Go do the math again.
Period.
Thats what I get for sending you to do the math. Im still too lazy to go check it out and look at methods, years and the rest.
||sarcasm|| I take your analysis as true and hereby declare that windows has been exploited lesser than linux, has less malware against and is inherently less prone to attack than linux or turning into a braindead spamzombie than linux. ||end sarcasm||
Happy?
If they take more than a week, then all their work will be for nothing. Patch is in main kernel as of today and yes, linux servers are generaly easy to update.
Ah...
How the hell can you mod if youre posting? Do you keep an extra account with modpoints somewhere or get help from friends? Wow, pretty sophisticated.
Or do we have a bitch ass whiner account now @ /. to report "offensive" posts? It would be a crappy day for me if this was the case.
And no. You like to tag me as a fanboi because of what I said. Here:
Oh...
So it was disclosed the 11th of august and linus has a patch today, HUH? GOOD THING: QUICK PATCH
There are YEAR OLD bugs with this exact level of danger that microsoft simply has not patched and still refuses to patch. ABSOLUTE TRUTH TO ANYONE IN THE SECURITY INDUSTRY
Fuck you, I love my os BECAUSE i know beforehand that it will be fixed in no time.... For this case, even you say im right
Windows people are just plain stupid, really. I dont think YOU are a windows user, I pitty you if you are forced to be one.
No need to say anything else, "foe" (i think you're the only person that uses the friend-foe system at /.).
No company, person or group can be accused of fixing what they dont know about. If there hasn't been any kind of in-the-wild exploit for this, and for know it hasnt (there will SURE be some very soon, but thats only because of this particular disclosure and can be thwarted by updating), then its safe to say that all that COULD be done, was done for fixing this bug and in no particular way does it make the Linux kernel less secure than any of its competitors.
On the other hand, the timely fashion in which it was patched leads me to conclude that the FOSS model is much more secure as it gets patches faster out the door once an exploit has been discovered.
Now... do YOU care to discuss intelligently?
I dont care how crazy do I sound. Hell, do you even know the FOSS community?
BTL publicity online is a common practice this days. Whats so odd about it?
Ah...
We are now that picky.... its a figure of speech. Change that to MUCH MORE OFTEN THAN THE LINUX KERNEL, go to secunia: you do the math.
No no, not run-of-the-mill: ive hated microsoft for a big while and still find it very, very fun to let people know how this company could'nt care less for the security of their customer's information.
I like to talk about it specially since MS has contracted some good PR firms to come into slashdot to attempt some trolling that is always easy to spot.
// leeches.c:Aug 11 2009
August, not april. Where the fuck did you get april from?
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There is your linky...
Hell, at least you get PAID for being a MS fanboi.
How trivial is it to get into a linux box and why would that be the os's fault?
The fact is that local exploits are much less severe than remote exploits.
Its an ugly bug, sure, but most oses out there are much worse.
Yeah. And we still make a better OS than the people that actually get paid to fix them in other oses....
So pr0n==good programming and bugfixing.
How can they all be rootkitted if its a local root exploit, not a remote one.
Yes...
Do YOU know how many undiscovered bugs are in windows?
NO!
Because hell, YOU CANT KNOW what you dont have access to. Linux, at least, can be checked and rechecked and sooner or later someone will find the bug.
In the case of windows, perhaps even now there are tremendous remote root exploits that are being actively used that you dont know about. And if those follow the trends of virii or other exploit info that is available, its probably a number of undisclosed exploits like 100000 larger than all you could find in Linux.
And unless programmers are magically endowed with omniscience, you need to KNOW ABOUT A BUG before fixing it.
Ah... you want the linux community to fix bugs it doesnt know about?
Well... thats like asking the genie in the bottle for "World Peace": "I do wishes, not miracles".
Sorry, God, I forgot you.
No no... not "wordpress". Youd need an exploit in the PHP-Apache stack, not just in a random web app.
Care to find us one of those tha tis currently unpatched?
You can find them in microsoft's "security" site.
Well its not trivial. This is not a remote exploit, its local.
Well configured linux boxes are plain impervious to attack.
See? I can do it too.
Fixed bug in two days. Thats all I have to say.
Windows has, TODAY, KNOWN, available in the WILD, remote root exploits unpatched for 8 years now.
HUH?
Well we do have good antivirus to protect all those windows from becoming bots.
Virus, in our case? What would the infection vector be?
Can you cite one? Where is that mean oo.o killer macro virus that turns our boxes into spambots?
Its plain simple: Linux is WAY more secure than ANY windows incarnation. Period.
Nobody should trust their BOFH.
Sadly, it just happens to be the case that we can't live without them, but trustable as a group, they are not.
Trust people, not jobs.