On the Mozilla roadmap, it shows Mozilla 1.0 following the same start, freeze, release timeline as the rest of the builds. I personally feel it should be started, frozen for twice as long as usual with drivers@mozilla.org being the only ones who can approve changes, then submitted to longer-than-normal testing period.
I would also like to see better documentation, and improved features. I think this release stands for Mozilla, and it should be something Mozilla.org should be proud of. We shouldn't rush into it. I would be perfectly happy if it wasn't released until the end of summer, 2002.
What do you want to see in Mozilla 1.0? Do you agree it should follow an extended schedule compared to most milestones? What features would you like to see improved or added?
You can also talk on newsgroups like netscape.public.mozilla.general
I am a mozilla developer, and I use both Netscape 6 and Mozilla. Most of the time, though, I use Netscape for browsing because there is a stability factor in the fact that I am not constantly changing it, editing the source, downloading new nightlies, etc. I have 4 versions of Mozilla on my disk usually at once, along with Netscape 6:
1) Source tree for hacking
2) Binary tree for hacking the chrome
3) Binary tree of a recent nightly to keep track of feature progress
4) Latest milestone release
I use Netscape 6 for browsing because I am not constantly editing, hacking, crashing, replacing, or deleting it. I started doing this last year when downloading a new version of Mozilla might mean that your profile doesn't work anymore.
I imagine for people who don't work on the Mozilla project and don't do what I do, it might be better just to get Mozilla and forget Netscape altogether.
There are some advantages to getting Netscape 6 instead though. It has better plugin support from companies such as Macromedia, integrated AIM, has been more thoroughly tested (as it comes from a milestone branch), has spell-checker, is made to be easier to use than Mozilla, has a better help system, is more polished and attractive, and should generally be more stable and functional - although this is not always the case.
Some disadvantages of Netscape 6 are that it is a much larger download, more bloated, always a couple months behind Mozilla in terms of features, doesn't have IRC Chat (though this may change in the future), has a somewhat quirky installation server (though this should change too), has a private bug database, and comes with a lot of bundled programs which people might not want.
Therefore, it all depends on your preferences which program you use. If you are an advanced user, then Mozilla might be all you need. For the average user, though, Netscape 6 would be what I would recommend. I might also recommend always having up-to-date copies of both programs, and using the one you like the best. Remember, as Mozilla has few users compared to Netscape, the web might not be always written with Mozilla in mind. Therefore, there might be sites that - for instance - sniff for Netscape 6 but not for Mozilla, or plugins that only work on Netscape 6.
This hurts the people that don't know enough to not open the file. These are the same people that Microsoft is trying to make their operating system easy enough to use. Therefore, it is simple enough for beginners to use but it security is made in such a way that a beginner can have their computer taken over by a virus.
I don't understand why, with the way web apps are getting these days, there isn't a C++ styled script. I understand that C++ isn't the best scripting language the way it stands now, but there could be built in hash templates, etc etc that make it just as good as perl. So how about it? Anyone up for the challenge?
The OOPedness of C++ would make creating a Web Application a real fun.
If there was a C++ styled script, I would be in heaven! I don't really care if its a little slow.
I started working on the project around Sept. of last year (albiet I did a little work before then), and I am amazed at the explosion Mozilla has had recently. It has gone from an application that couldn't come close to competing with MSIE early last year, to something that is IMHO way better. Since now IE, Opera, and Mozilla follow the standard very well - it looks like a good day for Web Application Development. Even though IE follows the standard well, it doesn't come close to where Mozilla is. All you Konqueror zealots remember one thing - where is Konqueror for Windows? Mozilla is XP, and porting it to a new OS takes only a little while. I can't wait until the day that MailNews is way better than Outlook.
Let's look at Microsoft... They released IE6.0 beta, and it looks as if they have made no effort to follow standards better. They have dug a hole by having to support their web developer clients who use MS proprietary code. Eventually, people will get sick of the fact they break the standard in many ways.
Its a good day for Mozilla lovers. Just be patient, since Mozilla 1.0 will be eventually released and will hopefully blow you away.
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Roadmap information:
http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap/mozilla-1.0.html
http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
On the Mozilla roadmap, it shows Mozilla 1.0 following the same start, freeze, release timeline as the rest of the builds. I personally feel it should be started, frozen for twice as long as usual with drivers@mozilla.org being the only ones who can approve changes, then submitted to longer-than-normal testing period.
I would also like to see better documentation, and improved features. I think this release stands for Mozilla, and it should be something Mozilla.org should be proud of. We shouldn't rush into it. I would be perfectly happy if it wasn't released until the end of summer, 2002.
What do you want to see in Mozilla 1.0? Do you agree it should follow an extended schedule compared to most milestones? What features would you like to see improved or added?
You can also talk on newsgroups like netscape.public.mozilla.general
Let's make Mozilla 1.0 fantastic!
I am a mozilla developer, and I use both Netscape 6 and Mozilla. Most of the time, though, I use Netscape for browsing because there is a stability factor in the fact that I am not constantly changing it, editing the source, downloading new nightlies, etc. I have 4 versions of Mozilla on my disk usually at once, along with Netscape 6:
1) Source tree for hacking
2) Binary tree for hacking the chrome
3) Binary tree of a recent nightly to keep track of feature progress
4) Latest milestone release
I use Netscape 6 for browsing because I am not constantly editing, hacking, crashing, replacing, or deleting it. I started doing this last year when downloading a new version of Mozilla might mean that your profile doesn't work anymore.
I imagine for people who don't work on the Mozilla project and don't do what I do, it might be better just to get Mozilla and forget Netscape altogether.
There are some advantages to getting Netscape 6 instead though. It has better plugin support from companies such as Macromedia, integrated AIM, has been more thoroughly tested (as it comes from a milestone branch), has spell-checker, is made to be easier to use than Mozilla, has a better help system, is more polished and attractive, and should generally be more stable and functional - although this is not always the case.
Some disadvantages of Netscape 6 are that it is a much larger download, more bloated, always a couple months behind Mozilla in terms of features, doesn't have IRC Chat (though this may change in the future), has a somewhat quirky installation server (though this should change too), has a private bug database, and comes with a lot of bundled programs which people might not want.
Therefore, it all depends on your preferences which program you use. If you are an advanced user, then Mozilla might be all you need. For the average user, though, Netscape 6 would be what I would recommend. I might also recommend always having up-to-date copies of both programs, and using the one you like the best. Remember, as Mozilla has few users compared to Netscape, the web might not be always written with Mozilla in mind. Therefore, there might be sites that - for instance - sniff for Netscape 6 but not for Mozilla, or plugins that only work on Netscape 6.
This hurts the people that don't know enough to not open the file. These are the same people that Microsoft is trying to make their operating system easy enough to use. Therefore, it is simple enough for beginners to use but it security is made in such a way that a beginner can have their computer taken over by a virus.
I don't understand why, with the way web apps are getting these days, there isn't a C++ styled script. I understand that C++ isn't the best scripting language the way it stands now, but there could be built in hash templates, etc etc that make it just as good as perl. So how about it? Anyone up for the challenge? The OOPedness of C++ would make creating a Web Application a real fun. If there was a C++ styled script, I would be in heaven! I don't really care if its a little slow.
Ha ha you Anonymous Coward! Mozilla is better than Internet Explorer! Ha ha ha! You don't even know how to spell. Mozilla loaded in less than a second
I started working on the project around Sept. of last year (albiet I did a little work before then), and I am amazed at the explosion Mozilla has had recently. It has gone from an application that couldn't come close to competing with MSIE early last year, to something that is IMHO way better. Since now IE, Opera, and Mozilla follow the standard very well - it looks like a good day for Web Application Development. Even though IE follows the standard well, it doesn't come close to where Mozilla is. All you Konqueror zealots remember one thing - where is Konqueror for Windows? Mozilla is XP, and porting it to a new OS takes only a little while. I can't wait until the day that MailNews is way better than Outlook. Let's look at Microsoft... They released IE6.0 beta, and it looks as if they have made no effort to follow standards better. They have dug a hole by having to support their web developer clients who use MS proprietary code. Eventually, people will get sick of the fact they break the standard in many ways. Its a good day for Mozilla lovers. Just be patient, since Mozilla 1.0 will be eventually released and will hopefully blow you away.
wassup twjordan. So is the guy who submitted this article to slashdot ;-).