I can't believe some of the ridiculous comments being posted here.
For some reason, people think that Intel has a responsibility to all the tech workers who are losing their jobs...they absolutely do not. Intel has a responsibility for one thing only...producing their chip products as effectively and as cheaply as possible. Since when did people stop viewing them as a company who sold products and started thinking they had a responsibility to employ a certain segment of the world population?
Intel, believe it or not, is not doing this to take away people livelyhoods. They don't cut American jobs for the sake of cutting American jobs. Every idiot can say how the CEO is pocketing the savings from outsourcing. Do you know who else is pocketing the savings? Me. And you. And everyone else who uses a computer with an Intel processor. Because the processors are cheaper when you cut the costs, yes, even when you do it by outsourcing. And THAT is good for the economy, as technology prices go down, more people have access to it, including poorer segments of the population who can now use computers as learning tools.
People forget that saying you are "competitive" doesn't just mean that the company and CEO makes more money...it means that they are competitive with price.
I have no problem whatsoever with outsourcing. I'm an undergraduate computer science major at MIT right now, so it's not like I have no connection to what happens in the IT industry. But I also had the perspective of running an IT business before coming to college. I would often need some work done by contractors, and guess what. American companies charged more and were less flexible. I contacted instead a company in India. Those guys were willing to make changes without complaint whenever I needed them, and they worked twice as hard to get the project done.
I had no problem giving my business to them. I don't have this narrow view of people as either Americans or Indians. Only as other hard working human beings, and if I like how somebody does business with me, I will do business with them. It's that simple. I suppose I'm a benedict arnold too. But I was also able to charge my American client less for the project because of the lower costs.
People always have a narrow view when things like this go on. When manufacturing got outsourced many decades ago, people cried the same things about this "house of cards" collapsing because American consumers would no longer have jobs so they couldn't buy any of the products the American companies were producing. Well look what happened. The decades following saw the biggest economic growth in the history of the world. America saw unprecedented prosperity. New ideas in technology created wealth and prosperity. Can you imagine what would have happened had we protected all the manufacturing and agricultural workers who could no longer compete with their overseas counterparts? People would not have found another way to be innovative, create products with value. It's a good thing we didn't, because many of those people who would have been working in those jobs are now working in more productive, higher paying capacities that benefit the American economy more.
It is the essence of the capitalistic system that people are losing their jobs and having to find new ways to create wealth. As painful as it is, people who lose their jobs inevitably find other ways to add value to the American economy, start new companies, create new technology, etc. If we were all comfortable, with a job that did the same thing year in and year out, and had the knowledge that we could be there as long as we would like, then there would no longer be that impetus for innovation and new ideas. Capitalism means that we can never rest easy and feel complacent...we must be uncomfortable, always looking for new ways to retool ourselves or create jobs. It was a blessing that those lower quality jobs such as manufacturing were outsourced...it only forced us to create the most prosperous nation this world has ever seen. And I guarantee you, IT outsourcing aside, Americans will see even greater levels of prosperity for years to come.
Trying to associate him with only sloan does no good. Look at his qualifications:
Dr. Madnick has degrees in Electrical Engineering (B.S. and M.S.), Management (M.S.), and Computer Science (Ph.D.) from MIT. He has been a Visiting Professor at Harvard University, Nanyang Technological University (Singapore), University of Newcastle (England), and Technion (Israel).
C'mon, a doctorate in comp sci from MIT, with just one management degree compared to the 3 EE/comp sci degrees. He must know something about the subject, if not to the specific degree slashdot would like, but maybe we're not getting the whole story.
Very cogent, Anonymous Coward. Of course it's not ALL slashdot readers. But how the post was moderated surely says something about the majority of the readers.
Yeah, "haha" Reagan has alzheimers and can't even remember his wife or close friends. "Haha" they have to care for him everyday hoping for only the slightest bit of recognition while enduring the pain that he will never again know who they are.
Yep, this is something we should really poke fun at, since it's such a hilarious situation for everyone.
We have an old system that plays DCC...they hoped it would revive the cassette against increasing CD popularity...never worked of course. Doubtful this will either.
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I was born here, lived here all my life, and I have a passport, so there =P
Of course commentary isn't unbiased, that should be obvious to everyone. But as even fair.org says, the straight news reporting part of foxnews
IS generally regarded as fair. However, fair's analysis of bias is often times flawed and at the worst outright ridiculous. They don't even mention Zahn or Cavuto AT ALL (who are not at all conservatives) but represent a large share of the prime time programming. They take little qutoes here and there.Attempts by Fair to discredit the liberals on fox are pathetic. As if Mara Liasson saying that "Jesse Jackson gets away with a lot of things that other people don't" proves that she's not really a liberal, or perhaps just isn't as radical as many want her to be. As a strong conservative, I've had my mind changed many times while listening to fox's liberal commentators. You would think that as a student at MIT, my ideas would have solidifed already, but they haven't...such is the nature of keeping an open mind.
CNN IS liberal biased not necessariliy in its commentary, but in something far more subtle and deceptive...their story choice. They're hemorrhaging conservative viewers to foxnews because of it. The other three big networks are guilty of it as well (Be sure to read Bernard Goldberg's book Bias) How about all the ridiculous statistics on AIDS and rain forest depletion that were given to us years ago by big media (and now debunked). Where is this conservative bias in big media you speak of? I just don't see it.
You make it seem as if all media is conservative biased and you have to turn to guerilla and mediachannel JUST to find some bits of radical thinking. And I did read the article before I posted, so I know what your grievances are with CNN, although those two points are so minor that it is ridiculous to absolve them from a liberal description because of them. There are an incredible number of liberals who wear american colors and have no compunction calling them terrorists, yet they are still incredibly liberal.
Horowitz is radical, and gets very little airtime elsewhere. So there are more radical voices on foxnews, liberal ones too if you watch. How many times I've seen the leader of the black panthers saying bush triggered the collapse of the world when he came into office, i can't remember.
Just because you're for globalization and you're a capitalist does not at all make you out to be more conservative than I would imagine. Those are two things that don't mean too much in today's mainstream thought.
Bottom line, keep reading your guerilla news, but be sure to tune into fox once in a while to get some balance. An above all, keep an open mind.
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yeah, guerillanews and mediachannel? And you're complaing about FOXNEWS as being the most biased name in news?
Please, just admit it that your biggest complaint about foxnews is that it shows a conservative voice. I would find it hard to believe that if a news organization titled heavily to the left (like guerilla news and media channel) you would be screaming about fair reporting. You're absolutely not concerned about objectivity, you only use it as a pretense to complain about "right wing" media outlets, and that is disgusting deception.
All americans should seek media that shows both sides of the story, and everyone must ALWAYS keep an open mind about issues...NO MATTER HOW DEDICATED YOU ARE TO YOUR POLITICS. Locking yourself into liberal only news sources hurts all of us in the end.
I also find it ridiculous that your biggest complaint about CNN is lou dobbs, when it is widely regarded to be a LIBERAL biased news organization (and this is well documented). Somehow THAT didn't come up in your discussion about bias.
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I can't believe some of the ridiculous comments being posted here.
For some reason, people think that Intel has a responsibility to all the tech workers who are losing their jobs...they absolutely do not. Intel has a responsibility for one thing only...producing their chip products as effectively and as cheaply as possible. Since when did people stop viewing them as a company who sold products and started thinking they had a responsibility to employ a certain segment of the world population?
Intel, believe it or not, is not doing this to take away people livelyhoods. They don't cut American jobs for the sake of cutting American jobs. Every idiot can say how the CEO is pocketing the savings from outsourcing. Do you know who else is pocketing the savings? Me. And you. And everyone else who uses a computer with an Intel processor. Because the processors are cheaper when you cut the costs, yes, even when you do it by outsourcing. And THAT is good for the economy, as technology prices go down, more people have access to it, including poorer segments of the population who can now use computers as learning tools.
People forget that saying you are "competitive" doesn't just mean that the company and CEO makes more money...it means that they are competitive with price.
I have no problem whatsoever with outsourcing. I'm an undergraduate computer science major at MIT right now, so it's not like I have no connection to what happens in the IT industry. But I also had the perspective of running an IT business before coming to college. I would often need some work done by contractors, and guess what. American companies charged more and were less flexible. I contacted instead a company in India. Those guys were willing to make changes without complaint whenever I needed them, and they worked twice as hard to get the project done.
I had no problem giving my business to them. I don't have this narrow view of people as either Americans or Indians. Only as other hard working human beings, and if I like how somebody does business with me, I will do business with them. It's that simple. I suppose I'm a benedict arnold too. But I was also able to charge my American client less for the project because of the lower costs.
People always have a narrow view when things like this go on. When manufacturing got outsourced many decades ago, people cried the same things about this "house of cards" collapsing because American consumers would no longer have jobs so they couldn't buy any of the products the American companies were producing. Well look what happened. The decades following saw the biggest economic growth in the history of the world. America saw unprecedented prosperity. New ideas in technology created wealth and prosperity. Can you imagine what would have happened had we protected all the manufacturing and agricultural workers who could no longer compete with their overseas counterparts? People would not have found another way to be innovative, create products with value. It's a good thing we didn't, because many of those people who would have been working in those jobs are now working in more productive, higher paying capacities that benefit the American economy more.
It is the essence of the capitalistic system that people are losing their jobs and having to find new ways to create wealth. As painful as it is, people who lose their jobs inevitably find other ways to add value to the American economy, start new companies, create new technology, etc. If we were all comfortable, with a job that did the same thing year in and year out, and had the knowledge that we could be there as long as we would like, then there would no longer be that impetus for innovation and new ideas. Capitalism means that we can never rest easy and feel complacent...we must be uncomfortable, always looking for new ways to retool ourselves or create jobs. It was a blessing that those lower quality jobs such as manufacturing were outsourced...it only forced us to create the most prosperous nation this world has ever seen. And I guarantee you, IT outsourcing aside, Americans will see even greater levels of prosperity for years to come.
As long as you keep thinking, and innovating.
Trying to associate him with only sloan does no good. Look at his qualifications:
Dr. Madnick has degrees in Electrical Engineering (B.S. and M.S.), Management (M.S.), and Computer Science (Ph.D.) from MIT. He has been a Visiting Professor at Harvard University, Nanyang Technological University (Singapore), University of Newcastle (England), and Technion (Israel).
C'mon, a doctorate in comp sci from MIT, with just one management degree compared to the 3 EE/comp sci degrees. He must know something about the subject, if not to the specific degree slashdot would like, but maybe we're not getting the whole story.
Very cogent, Anonymous Coward. Of course it's not ALL slashdot readers. But how the post was moderated surely says something about the majority of the readers.
Your post makes the point better than anyone ever could.
Select compassion in action.
Yeah, "haha" Reagan has alzheimers and can't even remember his wife or close friends. "Haha" they have to care for him everyday hoping for only the slightest bit of recognition while enduring the pain that he will never again know who they are.
Yep, this is something we should really poke fun at, since it's such a hilarious situation for everyone.
We have an old system that plays DCC...they hoped it would revive the cassette against increasing CD popularity...never worked of course. Doubtful this will either.
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http://www.readexchange.com
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article? It talked about the composition of the star that was needed to foster life bearing planets, and how those stars were only found in a small ring percentage of the galaxy.
I was born here, lived here all my life, and I have a passport, so there =P
Of course commentary isn't unbiased, that should be obvious to everyone. But as even fair.org says, the straight news reporting part of foxnews
IS generally regarded as fair. However, fair's analysis of bias is often times flawed and at the worst outright ridiculous. They don't even mention Zahn or Cavuto AT ALL (who are not at all conservatives) but represent a large share of the prime time programming. They take little qutoes here and there.Attempts by Fair to discredit the liberals on fox are pathetic. As if Mara Liasson saying that "Jesse Jackson gets away with a lot of things that other people don't" proves that she's not really a liberal, or perhaps just isn't as radical as many want her to be. As a strong conservative, I've had my mind changed many times while listening to fox's liberal commentators. You would think that as a student at MIT, my ideas would have solidifed already, but they haven't...such is the nature of keeping an open mind.
CNN IS liberal biased not necessariliy in its commentary, but in something far more subtle and deceptive...their story choice. They're hemorrhaging conservative viewers to foxnews because of it. The other three big networks are guilty of it as well (Be sure to read Bernard Goldberg's book Bias) How about all the ridiculous statistics on AIDS and rain forest depletion that were given to us years ago by big media (and now debunked). Where is this conservative bias in big media you speak of? I just don't see it.
You make it seem as if all media is conservative biased and you have to turn to guerilla and mediachannel JUST to find some bits of radical thinking. And I did read the article before I posted, so I know what your grievances are with CNN, although those two points are so minor that it is ridiculous to absolve them from a liberal description because of them. There are an incredible number of liberals who wear american colors and have no compunction calling them terrorists, yet they are still incredibly liberal.
Horowitz is radical, and gets very little airtime elsewhere. So there are more radical voices on foxnews, liberal ones too if you watch. How many times I've seen the leader of the black panthers saying bush triggered the collapse of the world when he came into office, i can't remember.
Just because you're for globalization and you're a capitalist does not at all make you out to be more conservative than I would imagine. Those are two things that don't mean too much in today's mainstream thought.
Bottom line, keep reading your guerilla news, but be sure to tune into fox once in a while to get some balance. An above all, keep an open mind.
yeah, guerillanews and mediachannel? And you're complaing about FOXNEWS as being the most biased name in news?
Please, just admit it that your biggest complaint about foxnews is that it shows a conservative voice. I would find it hard to believe that if a news organization titled heavily to the left (like guerilla news and media channel) you would be screaming about fair reporting. You're absolutely not concerned about objectivity, you only use it as a pretense to complain about "right wing" media outlets, and that is disgusting deception.
All americans should seek media that shows both sides of the story, and everyone must ALWAYS keep an open mind about issues...NO MATTER HOW DEDICATED YOU ARE TO YOUR POLITICS. Locking yourself into liberal only news sources hurts all of us in the end.
I also find it ridiculous that your biggest complaint about CNN is lou dobbs, when it is widely regarded to be a LIBERAL biased news organization (and this is well documented). Somehow THAT didn't come up in your discussion about bias.