I agree.. Facebook is easily worth 100B. They have nearly 5B in assets. So that's only 20x
For comparison, Nvidia has 6B in assets, and is worth 7.5B AMD has 3.5B in assets, and is worth 4.3B Amazon has 20B in assets, and is worth 97B Intel has 70B in assets, and is worth 130B
But those companies aren't as cool as Facebook. I mean Facebook is at least 20x cooler than AMD. AMD just makes useless processors.. Facebook lets me send critical status updates to friends. How can you even compare the two?
Out of all failed drives, over 56% of them have no count in any of the four strong SMART signals, namely scan errors, reallocation count, offline reallocation, and probational count. In other words, models based only on those signals can never predict more than half of the failed drives. Figure 14 shows that even when we add all remaining SMART parameters (except temperature) we still find that over 36% of all failed drives had zero counts on all variables.
It is difficult to add temperature to this analysis since despite it being reported as part of SMART there are no crisp thresholds that directly indicate errors. However, if we arbitrarily assume that spending more than 50% of the observed time above 40C is an indication of possible problem, and add those drives to the set of predictable failures, we still are left with about 36% of all drives with no failure signals at all.
When I do a search from JFK to LAX, guess what - it is NICE that Google immediately knows that I am interested in a flight and shows me prices.
Google scrapes the data from another site. That site gets to pay for the expense of collecting the data, and the bandwidth of Google's scraper, but gets to display none of their ads. Google comes along, takes the data, and displays their ads next to it instead.
I would not call that nice.
Would you also call it nice if your ISP dynamically deleted the ads from all of the sites you visit and displayed their own ads instead? Because in a way, that's what Google is doing.
Another case in point is the exclusivity agreement in AdWords. If you want to use AdWords (and you often have to because it's the prominent player and they also own Doubleclick since long time ago), you cannot run your ads on competitors services. It is prohibited in the terms. That is just monopoly abuse.
Intel, you can hedge your bets. Take one of your teams -... - and tell them to make a desktop-quality ARM processor.
So thousands and thousands of researchers spend years to produce the i3, and continue to work every single day to make it faster, and you think one team can take ARM and make it competitive with it?
I had to laugh when I read that.
If Intel wanted to make ARM into a processor fast enough to compete with the i3, i5, or i7... it would require a massive effort from the entire company. Which is not going to happen unless the company is practically on its death bed.
It’s worth noting that similar cases against Facebook and others filed under the wiretap law have been thrown out because browser cookies are simply not considered wiretaps and plaintiffs have difficulty proving any harm.
21 people suing because they were tracked DEFINITELY deserve 15 billion. I could totally see how they would have 715million in damaged each from facebook's egregious actions.
On a serious note, the government sets the value of a life at $6-9 million. So facebook could have just kill these people, and save $14.874 billion.
Also, I do think it is "per user". The article says there are 245 million internet users, using 25.7gb ea. There are only 115million households in the US.. so there must be more than one user @ 25.7gb in the average household.
I seriously doubt even that is a million people. Your speculation != proof. So maybe you should find some numbers if you really think that is true.
And I LOL at you suggesting facebook invented social media. You're obviously too young to remember myspace. And before myspace, there was friendster... and before that there was sixdegrees -- in 1997
The U.S. Telecom Association crunched a few sets of numbers (shown below) and found the country also ranks near the top in terms of data usage per user. The nation’s estimated 245 million Internet users consumed a monthly average of 25.7 gigabytes per user, according to the trade association. Only South Korea, which boasts the world's fastest speeds in many studies, transfers more data, with a monthly average of 49.1 gigabytes.
Really, you didn't see it? It's in the first paragraph, and the whole article is 4 paragraphs
Today, we announced the pilot market launch of the Comcast data usage meter in the Portland, Oregon area. After a short period, we’ll roll it out nationally. It’s designed to be simple and easy to use and will help customers better understand how much data they consume in a month. (Note: the median usage for Comcast’s customers is about 2 to 4 GB per month.)
The meter is accessible by logging in to Customer Central at http://customer.comcast.com/ and clicking on the “Users and Settings” tab. From there, click on “View details” in the “My devices” section (located toward the upper right hand of the screen) and that will go to the meter page. As you can see from the accompanying screen shot the meter will show usage in the current calendar month when it’s first launched. Over time, it will show the most recent three months of use (including the current month). The data is refreshed approximately every three hours.
The meter measures all data usage over a cable modem. So, if a customer is using multiple computers and other devices, such as an online gaming console, “over the net” VoIP applications or devices, or additional wireless devices (such as an iPod Touch), the meter will report data usage for all of those computers and devices combined.
This is a tool we promised to provide, and we are pleased to deliver it today after rigorous employee testing and the completion of an independent analysis conducted by NetForecast, Inc. If you’d like to see NetForecast’s report on the system, click here.
Millions? How big do you think facebook is exactly? Even Safeway does not have millions of employees. Kroger? no. Amazon? no. Exxon Mobile? No. News Corp? No.
WTF? You obviously do not know what you're talking about.
Dropbox? Uses Amazon S3.. they don't have a single server with your data on it. Ubuntu One, Zmanda-- same thing Amazon Cloud servers? Xen. Did you really think they wrote their own cloud software? Rackspace Cloud? Also Xen. And they're in the process of getting their whole platform working on openstack
Companies rely on other companies. How is this company any different than rackspace? Both have outsourced the development of their product to someone else. They're just there to maintain the servers and answer questions from customers. Yet, I doubt anyone here would suggest Rackspace should shutdown.
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I agree.. Facebook is easily worth 100B. They have nearly 5B in assets. So that's only 20x
For comparison,
Nvidia has 6B in assets, and is worth 7.5B
AMD has 3.5B in assets, and is worth 4.3B
Amazon has 20B in assets, and is worth 97B
Intel has 70B in assets, and is worth 130B
But those companies aren't as cool as Facebook. I mean Facebook is at least 20x cooler than AMD. AMD just makes useless processors.. Facebook lets me send critical status updates to friends. How can you even compare the two?
SMART will not tell you if your drive has failed in over 1/3rd of cases.
From Google: Failure Trends in a Large Disk Drive Population
Out of all failed drives, over 56% of them have no
count in any of the four strong SMART signals, namely
scan errors, reallocation count, offline reallocation, and
probational count. In other words, models based only
on those signals can never predict more than half of the
failed drives. Figure 14 shows that even when we add
all remaining SMART parameters (except temperature)
we still find that over 36% of all failed drives had zero
counts on all variables.
It is difficult to add temperature to this analysis since
despite it being reported as part of SMART there are no
crisp thresholds that directly indicate errors. However,
if we arbitrarily assume that spending more than 50%
of the observed time above 40C is an indication of possible
problem, and add those drives to the set of predictable
failures, we still are left with about 36% of all
drives with no failure signals at all.
512GB SSD for $500
If your NAS fits on 2 hard drives, it is already modest.
Also... 1800gbits/sqin by 2016?
That 4TB hitachi drive is 446gbit/sqin http://www.storagereview.com/hitachi_ultrastar_7k4000_4tb_enterprise_hard_drive_announced
So if that increases to 1800.. we'll have 16TB drives NOT 60TB.
2016 is in 4 years. Let's see...
In 2008, Seagate announced the world's first 1.5TB drive.
And in 2012, Hitachi announced the first 4TB drive.
And in 2016, this will magically become 60TB?!
If you said 10TB, I would believe it. I'll even go along with 15TB.
But 60TB? don't believe it for a second.
When I do a search from JFK to LAX, guess what - it is NICE that Google immediately knows that I am interested in a flight and shows me prices.
Google scrapes the data from another site. That site gets to pay for the expense of collecting the data, and the bandwidth of Google's scraper, but gets to display none of their ads. Google comes along, takes the data, and displays their ads next to it instead.
I would not call that nice.
Would you also call it nice if your ISP dynamically deleted the ads from all of the sites you visit and displayed their own ads instead? Because in a way, that's what Google is doing.
Another case in point is the exclusivity agreement in AdWords. If you want to use AdWords (and you often have to because it's the prominent player and they also own Doubleclick since long time ago), you cannot run your ads on competitors services. It is prohibited in the terms. That is just monopoly abuse.
There is no such clause in the AdWords terms of service or in the guidelines. You can check it yourself:
https://adwords.google.com/select/tsandcsfinder
http://support.google.com/adwordspolicy/bin/static.py?hl=en&guide=1316546&page=guide.cs&rd=2
I've been advertising on AdWords for 10 years.. I have never seen such a policy, or heard of such a policy with regards to AdWords.
AdSense does have that policy. IE: if you place google ads on your website, you cannot place bing ads on your website also.
ADSENSE != ADWORDS.
Intel, you can hedge your bets. Take one of your teams - ... - and tell them to make a desktop-quality ARM processor.
So thousands and thousands of researchers spend years to produce the i3, and continue to work every single day to make it faster, and you think one team can take ARM and make it competitive with it?
I had to laugh when I read that.
If Intel wanted to make ARM into a processor fast enough to compete with the i3, i5, or i7... it would require a massive effort from the entire company. Which is not going to happen unless the company is practically on its death bed.
From the article:
It’s worth noting that similar cases against Facebook and others filed under the wiretap law have been thrown out because browser cookies are simply not considered wiretaps and plaintiffs have difficulty proving any harm.
So it's unlikely this is going to matter one bit.
21 people suing because they were tracked DEFINITELY deserve 15 billion. I could totally see how they would have 715million in damaged each from facebook's egregious actions.
On a serious note, the government sets the value of a life at $6-9 million. So facebook could have just kill these people, and save $14.874 billion.
Avg gas taxes: 49.5 cents per gallon
Avg diesel taxes: 54.6 cents per gallon
http://www.api.org/Oil-and-Natural-Gas-Overview/Industry-Economics/Fuel-Taxes.aspx
So literally $0.05 cents per gallon extra in taxes for diesel (which is $4.004/gal)
According to this: http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/how-much-monthly-bandwidth-doe-136401
Netflix is 3.6gb for an hd movie, and 500-700mb for a SD movie.
Also, I do think it is "per user". The article says there are 245 million internet users, using 25.7gb ea. There are only 115million households in the US.. so there must be more than one user @ 25.7gb in the average household.
If you take 311m people, subtract those under 5 and over 65, you get around 245million.. so again, I would say it's 25.7gb per person.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
I seriously doubt even that is a million people. Your speculation != proof. So maybe you should find some numbers if you really think that is true.
And I LOL at you suggesting facebook invented social media. You're obviously too young to remember myspace. And before myspace, there was friendster... and before that there was sixdegrees -- in 1997
Facebook was not even close to being first.
see my other post: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2857621&cid=40035465
says it's now 26gb.. article is from yesterday
Okay, he's a more up-to-date article: http://www.governing.com/blogs/by-the-numbers/us-ranks-high-on-internet-usage-despite-slow-speeds.html
The U.S. Telecom Association crunched a few sets of numbers (shown below) and found the country also ranks near the top in terms of data usage per user. The nation’s estimated 245 million Internet users consumed a monthly average of 25.7 gigabytes per user, according to the trade association. Only South Korea, which boasts the world's fastest speeds in many studies, transfers more data, with a monthly average of 49.1 gigabytes.
So he's still 2-3x above average.
Netflix had online streaming prior to Oct 1, 2008.. since that is the date on this article where netflix announced a partnership with Starz, and says 10-20% of their visitors regularly use the online streaming feature:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2008/10/more-mainstream.html
Really, you didn't see it? It's in the first paragraph, and the whole article is 4 paragraphs
Today, we announced the pilot market launch of the Comcast data usage meter in the Portland, Oregon area. After a short period, we’ll roll it out nationally. It’s designed to be simple and easy to use and will help customers better understand how much data they consume in a month. (Note: the median usage for Comcast’s customers is about 2 to 4 GB per month.)
The meter is accessible by logging in to Customer Central at http://customer.comcast.com/ and clicking on the “Users and Settings” tab. From there, click on “View details” in the “My devices” section (located toward the upper right hand of the screen) and that will go to the meter page. As you can see from the accompanying screen shot the meter will show usage in the current calendar month when it’s first launched. Over time, it will show the most recent three months of use (including the current month). The data is refreshed approximately every three hours.
The meter measures all data usage over a cable modem. So, if a customer is using multiple computers and other devices, such as an online gaming console, “over the net” VoIP applications or devices, or additional wireless devices (such as an iPod Touch), the meter will report data usage for all of those computers and devices combined.
This is a tool we promised to provide, and we are pleased to deliver it today after rigorous employee testing and the completion of an independent analysis conducted by NetForecast, Inc. If you’d like to see NetForecast’s report on the system, click here.
To read some additional FAQs about the meter, please visit http://sitesearch.comcast.com/?q=data+usage+meter&cat=ccentral
You didn't think this through much did you? Where would information about comcast's customers come from other than comcast?
You are not the average user, by far.
Yes, he's not average, by far. He uses up to 35x the amount of the average comcast user
http://blog.comcast.com/2009/12/comcast-data-usage-meter-launches.html
(Note: the median usage for Comcast’s customers is about 2 to 4 GB per month.)
LOL. I'll go along with it anyway. Let's see.. Number of employees at social media companies:
Facebook: 3500
Linked In: 1800
Twitter: 900
MySpace: 220
Ok.. that's 6420. I'm sure Friendster and Orkut account for the other 993,580.
His historical ties to the US are tenuous at best, as he spent most of his childhood in brazil, not the US.
He was born in 82. Moved to the US in 93, and moved to Singapore in 2009.
He has spent over half his life in the US.
Millions? How big do you think facebook is exactly? Even Safeway does not have millions of employees. Kroger? no. Amazon? no. Exxon Mobile? No. News Corp? No.
Facebook has 3500 employees.
http://newsroom.fb.com/content/default.aspx?NewsAreaId=22
Walmart, McDonalds, and the Department of Defense are the ONLY american employers with more than 1 million employees.
I think outsourcing it is a terrible idea. He should just purchase a bunch of monkeys and have them work on it in-house. Lemurs, tamarins, and marmosets are only $1500-2500
WTF? You obviously do not know what you're talking about.
Dropbox? Uses Amazon S3.. they don't have a single server with your data on it. Ubuntu One, Zmanda-- same thing
Amazon Cloud servers? Xen. Did you really think they wrote their own cloud software?
Rackspace Cloud? Also Xen. And they're in the process of getting their whole platform working on openstack
Companies rely on other companies. How is this company any different than rackspace? Both have outsourced the development of their product to someone else. They're just there to maintain the servers and answer questions from customers. Yet, I doubt anyone here would suggest Rackspace should shutdown.