What a bunch of garbage. The anti-Apple, anti-iMac, anti-Macintosh attitude of this site is getting really old. Apple and the Mac do have problems, but is posting false info really gonna change an intelligent Mac users opinion about them?
Their recent moves, the iMac and new G3s are really desperate moves; successful perhaps and maybe it'll keep them afloat long enough to wade out their next innovation slump, but they are desperate moves nonetheless.
Do you really believe this? I think the iMac has more to do with giving the people what they want than a desperate move. It was a way of moving into a market that they had never been successful in. I think it was a smart move. It's kept them in the public eye. And it's kept a lot of developers (especially game developers) from jumping the MacOS ship.
Then there's the reality of who uses Apple computers to make a living. I'm a graphic artist that makes a good living using Macs. Apple would continue to produce computers for the graphic arts and printing fields alone if they had no other market to sell to. Where are the viable graphic arts, printing, multimedia, and other content creation solutions on Linux? There are none. And most artists that have used Macs from the start aren't going to switch to M$/Intel as long as Apple is there.
they may look nice, but adding ram to a tower was a pain in the @$$!!!! remove the Motherboard, dissconect all wires/cables, for 32 megs of ram?
You had to remove the motherboard and all the cables to add RAM?? Yeah, right. What year was that? 1991? I guess you haven't seen the trap door on the new G3's. It has the easiest to access motherboard I've ever seen on a commercially produced computer.
I love the way some/.ers can put a spin on this to make it looks like Apple's fault. If you haven't noticed, Apple as of late has been sinking it's money into high profile marketing and the advancement of it's systems. It's seems VERY unlikey to me that they'd do something so underhanded and risky considering that BA doesn't even serve a vast part of the US.
Do you understand how large a typical professional print shop project is, in terms of sheer data storage?
What??
I currently work as a designer for a publishing company and a large amount of the work I do is magazine ads. Before that I worked in a high-voulume prepress in San Francisco's media district. The most amount of ram we had in any one Mac was approx. 300 megs in our color correction/scanning workstation. This was mainly because PhotoShop is a notorious memory hog. It's also because Macs have problems with virtual memory. It slows them down horrendously. If you're dealing large, hi-res scans, or rasterizing postscript files to a hi-res, having alot of ram is a must. But that's only if you're dealing with large bitmapped graphic files. The average designer wouldn't even be dealing with these large files. They'd usually just use a low res FPO to place in their Quark, Pagemaker, or Illustrator files. The prepress would then replace the FPO just as the the postscript is rasterized at a unix RIP and sent to the imagesetter. It's not necessary to have vast amount of RAM in this case.
The main thing a good amount of ram does on a Mac is that it let's you open more applications at once. Unless you're dealing with extremely complex eps files, Illustrator does fine on the default RAM allotment. Because Pagemaker and Quark are vector graphic programs, and use lo-res proxies for their placed bitmaps, they don't need a huge amount of memory.
A typical magazine ad is at least over 2-3 gigabytes.
If it takes that much memory for one of your magazine ads, then you're just overbuilding your files my friend. And anyone that works in prepress would tell you the same.
The Adobe Illustrator/Pagemaker combo that so many print shops use on the G3 require a gigabyte of RAM...
I don't know what alternate universe you were using these G3's in, but to me it sounds like you've never even touched a Mac. I learned my trade (graphic design) on a Mac IIsi that maxed out at 17 megs of RAM. Both Pagemaker and Illustrator ran fine on it. It's true that the memory requirements are much higher on the current versions of those programs, but neither is above 30 megs.
Here's an idea: before you post, have a slight clue as to what it is you're talking about. Your silly hyperbole just makes you look like an ignorant dork.
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What a bunch of garbage. The anti-Apple, anti-iMac, anti-Macintosh attitude of this site is getting really old. Apple and the Mac do have problems, but is posting false info really gonna change an intelligent Mac users opinion about them?
Linux users aren't into paying for software as far as I can tell.
And I doubt that this would be free or open source.
This one really gets to me. Why not just hit command+y (unmount) to eject the disk?
Their recent moves, the iMac and new G3s are really desperate moves; successful perhaps and maybe it'll keep them afloat long enough to wade out their next innovation slump, but they are desperate moves nonetheless.
Do you really believe this? I think the iMac has more to do with giving the people what they want than a desperate move. It was a way of moving into a market that they had never been successful in. I think it was a smart move. It's kept them in the public eye. And it's kept a lot of developers (especially game developers) from jumping the MacOS ship.
Then there's the reality of who uses Apple computers to make a living. I'm a graphic artist that makes a good living using Macs. Apple would continue to produce computers for the graphic arts and printing fields alone if they had no other market to sell to. Where are the viable graphic arts, printing, multimedia, and other content creation solutions on Linux? There are none. And most artists that have used Macs from the start aren't going to switch to M$/Intel as long as Apple is there.
they may look nice, but adding ram to a tower was a pain in the @$$!!!! remove the Motherboard, dissconect all wires/cables, for 32 megs of ram?
You had to remove the motherboard and all the cables to add RAM?? Yeah, right. What year was that? 1991? I guess you haven't seen the trap door on the new G3's. It has the easiest to access motherboard I've ever seen on a commercially produced computer.
For $1000 you also get Web Obects.
Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
OSX will be released. If you don't like it, then don't use it.
Vaporware my ass. Have a look here.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/
How can you run Netscape without the TCP/IP control panel and extention loaded? Sounds like BS to me.
BTW, Netscape is notoriously crash prone. You can't blame Apple for that. You can blame Apple for unprotected memory though...
Check this out.
I love the way some /.ers can put a spin on this to make it looks like Apple's fault. If you haven't noticed, Apple as of late has been sinking it's money into high profile marketing and the advancement of it's systems. It's seems VERY unlikey to me that they'd do something so underhanded and risky considering that BA doesn't even serve a vast part of the US.
Do you understand how large a typical professional print shop project is, in terms of sheer data storage?
What??
I currently work as a designer for a publishing company and a large amount of the work I do is magazine ads. Before that I worked in a high-voulume prepress in San Francisco's media district.
The most amount of ram we had in any one Mac was approx. 300 megs in our color correction/scanning workstation. This was mainly because PhotoShop is a notorious memory hog. It's also because Macs have problems with virtual memory. It slows them down horrendously. If you're dealing large, hi-res scans, or rasterizing postscript files to a hi-res, having alot of ram is a must. But that's only if you're dealing with large bitmapped graphic files. The average designer wouldn't even be dealing with these large files. They'd usually just use a low res FPO to place in their Quark, Pagemaker, or Illustrator files. The prepress would then replace the FPO just as the the postscript is rasterized at a unix RIP and sent to the imagesetter. It's not necessary to have vast amount of RAM in this case.
The main thing a good amount of ram does on a Mac is that it let's you open more applications at once. Unless you're dealing with extremely complex eps files, Illustrator does fine on the default RAM allotment. Because Pagemaker and Quark are vector graphic programs, and use lo-res proxies for their placed bitmaps, they don't need a huge amount of memory.
A typical magazine ad is at least over 2-3 gigabytes.
If it takes that much memory for one of your magazine ads, then you're just overbuilding your files my friend. And anyone that works in prepress would tell you the same.
The Adobe Illustrator/Pagemaker combo that so many print shops use on the G3 require a gigabyte of RAM...
I don't know what alternate universe you were using these G3's in, but to me it sounds like you've never even touched a Mac. I learned my trade (graphic design) on a Mac IIsi that maxed out at 17 megs of RAM. Both Pagemaker and Illustrator ran fine on it. It's true that the memory requirements are much higher on the current versions of those programs, but neither is above 30 megs.
Here's an idea: before you post, have a slight clue as to what it is you're talking about. Your silly hyperbole just makes you look like an ignorant dork.
I was just given a Classic from the early 80s, the interface looks _exactly_ the same as it does on the G3.
You'd better hide whatever it is that you're smoking before you mom gets home...
They (Connectix) were selling VGS at Macworld. For only $50 too. I would have bought a copy but I only have a lowly 603e. Time to upgrade...
ColorSync
QuickTime
Strong PostScript font support
Easy to administrate
intuitive interface (artist like it)
and probably most important:
Printing and publishing industry standard
ColorSync
QuickTime
Strong PostScript font support
Easy to administrate
intuitive interface (artist like it)
and probably most important:
Printing and publishing industry standard