When I first read the article headline, I read it as: Science: Brain's Cash Money Found.. I think I will go to sleep to avoid seeing the letters on my terminal dancing around (again).
I've been using apple stuff for like 12 years now.
That is very disappointing.. But, I've had *tons* of products with crappy audio jacks. Hopefully apple takes care of the problem quicky. Especially while they are getting so much attention over the music store and the iPod... Wouldn't take much to give the whole apple-music thing a black eye.
If they dont take care of the problem and they are forced to jack up the 99c song price it could really be bad news.
I was actually considering getting a mini over a normal iPod for space / weight / coolness....Guess my mid-80s sony discman isn't getting retired yet!
My apple / linux / OS X experince: ( Not that any of you care;)
300mhz AMDk6. Purchased at garage sale for $2. Running 2.4.2. Acts as NAT and runs ftp/www/mail/mud/proxy/icecast/quake/and so on. Added dual NICs, ploped a friends old trident video crard in, added old iMac 40GB HD & 128MB DIMM. Also bought $25 CD-ROM drive. http://www.bluehalo.homeunix.org/
500mhz slot-load iMac: Purchased Nov '00. Typing on it now. Logitech keyboard. Kensington optical mouse. External mirrored 19" AccuSync 90. 512mb RAM. 120GB 7200RPM Maxtor FDB 4MB cache. Problems experinced: 0 OS: OS X 10.1 - 10.3.3
350mhz slot-load iMac: Purchased Nov '99 one mother after introduction. I used it as my main computer until two years ago. Still in almost-every-day use by my father. Yellow dog linux used as main OS for a year until release of OS X 10.0.3. Main HD upgraded to 40gb. 256MB ram. Problems experinced: 0 OS 9.0.4 - 10.2.6?
Performa 6400/200: Purchased Aug '96. Used as my main computer until I sold it in Nov '99 with a 300mhz G3 upgrade card. Linux PPC used for some time with mac-on-linux. Main HD upgraded to 5GB. 72MB RAM. OS 7.5.5 - OS 8.6
Generic 233mhz PC: Purchased at garage sale for $50
Performa 6116/66: Purchased March '94 for my birthday. Used as my main computer until it died a horrible death 1 year later. Replaced by circuit city in-store. Died again 1 year later. Returned for in-store credit. Flirted with MkLinux once. Main HD upgraded to 800mb. 16MB ram. OS 7.5.3 - 7.5.5
Design flaw: Simple cooling problem. Better PSU fan and CPU fan would have solved the problem. Case design borrowed from centris 610 that needed very little cooling. PSU fan pointed DOWN out of bottom of case.. Hot air pulled back in from other corner underneath the case.
LC II: Purchased in ( Early summer ? ) '92. First macintoshed owned. Sold in '94 to buy 6116. Problems experinced: External scsi port problems two months before being sold. Putting two terminators on end of chain fixed the problem. Main HD upgraded to 500MB. Extra vram for 16-bit color at 512x384. 6MB RAM. OS: 7.1 - 7.5.3?
As said by others here it's not the subsystems that are slow.. Where using OS X is slow is in some UI operations.
I can play some mp3-encoded music, write something in word, have 15 tabs open in Chimera, and have quake running in the background (or in windowed mode:o)! and I can always switch from one process to another without problems. I only have a 350mhz iMac (although with 512mb ram as of recently, up from 192). My model mac has a very sorry video card (ATI Rage128 8mb).
The UI is slow under hi-cpu load because I don't have a video card that supports Quartz Extreme. Even with Quartz Extreme this problem arises because not all of the UI operations (such as the UI shadowing effect) have been moved over to the GPU as of yet. The effect of this problem is much less noticeable on G4 macs because the vector processing of the G4 takes the load of these operations off the main CPU and processes in 128-bit chunks.
So, if you have G4 and a video card that supports Quartz Extreme (even if it dosnt have a lot of CPU horsepower) it wont 'feel' slow, UI wise.
From my experience something that needs work in OS X is the usage of CPU priority.
A nice 20, or nice -20 task does not run as it should.. The kernel doesn't make a nice 20 task only get completely free CPU cycles.. And -20 tasks don't completely take over the CPU as they should.. Other than 1 task (a program that fixes bad prebindings in 10.2) there is no usage of cpu priority (The cpu priority not working as it should may be why).. Until 10.1 OS X didn't support cpu priority at all.
One other nit-pick is the usage of all unused ram for disk cache seems to strain things a bit when it has to deallocate memory every time a task asks for a bit of memory if the ram is full of disk cache. (Although, this feature is very helpful) My guess is they need to deallocate the cache in larger chunks to help with this.
Now that I have 512mb ram this no longer seems to be a problem. Most other mac users I know also put gobs of memory in their mac if they are running OS X. If you don't have Quartz Extreme enabled card the all open windows are buffered in ram!
You also have to consider most applications for OS X are written in the carbon API. That API was designed to ease the pain of porting programs from The older versions of mac os.. So there is a lot of translation going on there.. The old mac APIs were about like windows version 3.
All things considered I think apple is doing a fine job of moving OS X along and trying to iron things out. And OS X performs damned well when you understand what all is really going on to make the very nice looking GUI you get.. And no I'm not a mac bigot.. I use *nix and mac and windows.
I have no problem with google removing the links. In fact, it is their right to do so. I wouldn't have removed the links if it was my site. But thats just me. They are allowed to remove any link they wish, for any reason.
The part I don't get is why germany would want to censor sites such as that.. ever. I know they want to forget what happened. But, closing your eyes if your dying in a fire wont put the fire out. You will just die with your eyes closed! As much as they want to forget it the world should *never* let them forget it.
'He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it.'
I think it is interesting google removed them. I didn't expect that.
Do we need to design some backup media for the long term? Sure.
Looks like scare tactics or need for attention to me. What CD-R and DAT drives are so horrable all is lost? Sheesh.. Get a grip.
Jeez man slashdot is really getting bad these days. Why the hell did this get posted? Was there nothing more interesting to post? I guess it could be./ effect revenge.. Hmm. Oh, wait i know! Its for the people that reload slashdot every 15 seconds!;o)
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When I first read the article headline, I read it as: .. I think I will go to sleep to avoid seeing the letters on my terminal dancing around (again).
Science: Brain's Cash Money Found
That is the most ironic sig, ever.
:)
You didn't think that all the way through.. You would in a repair shop.
Of course all the macs you saw had problems!
Thats like a cop saying every black man is a thief because every black man he sees day to day is breaking the law..
I've been using apple stuff for like 12 years now.
..Guess my mid-80s sony discman isn't getting retired yet!
;)
That is very disappointing.. But, I've had *tons* of products with crappy audio jacks.
Hopefully apple takes care of the problem quicky. Especially while they are getting so much attention over the music store and the iPod... Wouldn't take much to give the whole apple-music thing a black eye.
If they dont take care of the problem and they are forced to jack up the 99c song price it could really be bad news.
I was actually considering getting a mini over a normal iPod for space / weight / coolness..
My apple / linux / OS X experince:
( Not that any of you care
300mhz AMDk6. Purchased at garage sale for $2.
Running 2.4.2. Acts as NAT and runs ftp/www/mail/mud/proxy/icecast/quake/and so on. Added dual NICs, ploped a friends old trident video crard in, added old iMac 40GB HD & 128MB DIMM. Also bought $25 CD-ROM drive. http://www.bluehalo.homeunix.org/
500mhz slot-load iMac: Purchased Nov '00. Typing on it now.
Logitech keyboard. Kensington optical mouse. External mirrored 19" AccuSync 90. 512mb RAM. 120GB 7200RPM Maxtor FDB 4MB cache.
Problems experinced: 0
OS: OS X 10.1 - 10.3.3
350mhz slot-load iMac: Purchased Nov '99 one mother after introduction. I used it as my main computer until two years ago. Still in almost-every-day use by my father. Yellow dog linux used as main OS for a year until release of OS X 10.0.3.
Main HD upgraded to 40gb. 256MB ram.
Problems experinced: 0
OS 9.0.4 - 10.2.6?
Performa 6400/200: Purchased Aug '96. Used as my main computer until I sold it in Nov '99 with a 300mhz G3 upgrade card. Linux PPC used for some time with mac-on-linux.
Main HD upgraded to 5GB. 72MB RAM.
OS 7.5.5 - OS 8.6
Generic 233mhz PC: Purchased at garage sale for $50
Performa 6116/66: Purchased March '94 for my birthday. Used as my main computer until it died a horrible death 1 year later. Replaced by circuit city in-store. Died again 1 year later. Returned for in-store credit. Flirted with MkLinux once.
Main HD upgraded to 800mb. 16MB ram.
OS 7.5.3 - 7.5.5
Design flaw: Simple cooling problem. Better PSU fan and CPU fan would have solved the problem. Case design borrowed from centris 610 that needed very little cooling. PSU fan pointed DOWN out of bottom of case.. Hot air pulled back in from other corner underneath the case.
LC II: Purchased in ( Early summer ? ) '92. First macintoshed owned. Sold in '94 to buy 6116.
Problems experinced: External scsi port problems two months before being sold. Putting two terminators on end of chain fixed the problem.
Main HD upgraded to 500MB. Extra vram for 16-bit color at 512x384. 6MB RAM.
OS: 7.1 - 7.5.3?
Mac OS X itself as an OS is fine.
:o)! and I can always switch from one process to another without problems.
As said by others here it's not the subsystems that are slow..
Where using OS X is slow is in some UI operations.
I can play some mp3-encoded music, write something in word, have 15 tabs open in Chimera, and have quake running in the background (or in windowed mode
I only have a 350mhz iMac (although with 512mb ram as of recently, up from 192).
My model mac has a very sorry video card (ATI Rage128 8mb).
The UI is slow under hi-cpu load because I don't have a video card that supports Quartz Extreme.
Even with Quartz Extreme this problem arises because not all of the UI operations (such as the UI shadowing effect) have been moved over to the GPU as of yet.
The effect of this problem is much less noticeable on G4 macs because the vector processing of the G4 takes the load of these operations off the main CPU and processes in 128-bit chunks.
So, if you have G4 and a video card that supports Quartz Extreme (even if it dosnt have a lot of CPU horsepower) it wont 'feel' slow, UI wise.
From my experience something that needs work in OS X is the usage of CPU priority.
A nice 20, or nice -20 task does not run as it should.. The kernel doesn't make a nice 20 task only get completely free CPU cycles.. And -20 tasks don't completely take over the CPU as they should.. Other than 1 task (a program that fixes bad prebindings in 10.2) there is no usage of cpu priority (The cpu priority not working as it should may be why).. Until 10.1 OS X didn't support cpu priority at all.
One other nit-pick is the usage of all unused ram for disk cache seems to strain things a bit when it has to deallocate memory every time a task asks for a bit of memory if the ram is full of disk cache. (Although, this feature is very helpful) My guess is they need to deallocate the cache in larger chunks to help with this.
Now that I have 512mb ram this no longer seems to be a problem. Most other mac users I know also put gobs of memory in their mac if they are running OS X.
If you don't have Quartz Extreme enabled card the all open windows are buffered in ram!
You also have to consider most applications for OS X are written in the carbon API. That API was designed to ease the pain of porting programs from The older versions of mac os.. So there is a lot of translation going on there.. The old mac APIs were about like windows version 3.
All things considered I think apple is doing a fine job of moving OS X along and trying to iron things out. And OS X performs damned well when you understand what all is really going on to make the very nice looking GUI you get.. And no I'm not a mac bigot.. I use *nix and mac and windows.
Thanks everyone.
I have no problem with google removing the links. In fact, it is their right to do so.
I wouldn't have removed the links if it was my site. But thats just me.
They are allowed to remove any link they wish, for any reason.
The part I don't get is why germany would want to censor sites such as that.. ever.
I know they want to forget what happened.
But, closing your eyes if your dying in a fire wont put the fire out. You will just die with your eyes closed!
As much as they want to forget it the world should *never* let them forget it.
'He who forgets the past is doomed to repeat it.'
I think it is interesting google removed them. I didn't expect that.
Andover?
./ed! ;o)
Yes slashdot is a subsidiary of andover.. andover andover andover *crash*.
Then 15 people instantly post:
Ooh it's been
Sorry, cheap joke.. I just couldn't help it.
Do we need to design some backup media for the long term? Sure.
./ effect revenge.. Hmm. Oh, wait i know! Its for the people that reload slashdot every 15 seconds! ;o)
Looks like scare tactics or need for attention to me.
What CD-R and DAT drives are so horrable all is lost?
Sheesh.. Get a grip.
Jeez man slashdot is really getting bad these days. Why the hell did this get posted? Was there nothing more interesting to post? I guess it could be
I started using macs when I was kid. I used one at my dad's work around '85 and got hooked. Anyhow, here's my two cents.
*Every* OS I've ever used has had something about it that was a huge pain in the ass.
Weaknesses:
Mac OS: NO: Preemptive multitasking, Dynamic memory allocation, Large amounts of software, Protected memory.
Windows: 'The registry', Lower quality software, DLL Hell , security / bug / driver updates and problems.
Unix: Lacking good web browsers, install / boot problems, X11 config problems, cryptic errors during config and installs.
Mac OS X: I'll form an opinion when I get it and use it for a while, I refuse to form one on second hand information.
Strengths:
Mac OS: Lack of driver problems, More fluid workflow, Simplicity of hardware and software.
Windows: Defacto standard, Wider rage of hardware choices, Most used browser, Large selection of software.
Unix: Nearly impossible to crash, It's *free*, Roll-your-own, Best web and database serving and networking.
Mac OS X: Part Unix, part Mac. (See above)