I was refering to DOS, my use of NT consists of the supposedly classic linux scenario: CD doesn't work
either that or the blue screen at first startup, or the 5 minute wait when it finds I have left a zip disk in the drive and it decides to scandisk it!
then theres the whole service pack fiasco, because of licences NT4 has (i think) 5 service packs not including developer library updates and intermediaries. You have to install thease after base installation meaning some hardware will crash a system on install if it happens to be not backwards compatible.
I havent tried NT with pipes but I know that the dos version of grep is laughable.
Unix options are used by scripts mostly and are derived from a temporary need or an itch for something better.
In terms of the tsr thing again a dos comment. As far as NT goes the shell is still un appealing.
I have used bash under NT and I found it unappealing, I dont like bash for a start (cant find the VI functions). but without the huge supporting shell programs, (join sed awk as examples) it was unwieldly.
Here we write software to run SONET/SDH nodes imagine a windows box running an x terrabit/s add drop multiplexer with all the routing,etc. involved and think about how long before a memory leak would case a blue screen of worse. With 6+ of these involved in a simple phone call a crash could be fatal.
About 3 months back I saw an advert, someone had made minicds that would fit to creditcard size, you could store 50M on one and then hand them out to clients/friends/etc. I cant remember the price but it was cheap. They could be printed as well, by the people doing them. I think Ill get some made up with Vice president on them (al a American Psyco). --------- "Once I'm done with kindergarten, I'm going to find me a wife" -Bert, AGE 5
My dya could not happen if I did not have a flushable toilet, modern cities would be near impossible (imagine new york sans facilite). Also the lack of gems such as toilet humour. I belive the toilet shaped pretty much everything since its general use became popular
The reason you cannot hold all real numbers is that there are an infinte number of real numbers and information theory states you would need an infinite amount of memory.
A good few of these unsolvable problems have got to be to do with information theory, right?
How many parents do you think, go out saying " We'll buy a P.C. so that little Jonny can play top of the range computer games and whup ass in Quake 3. Any guesses? Not too many, I'd hazard. No they buy P.C.'s for thier kids do theat they can do thier homework and run *nc*rt* to find out 'stuff'. the games come later when every kid on the block finds out Jonny's got a PIII550! That is why the PC will reign king.
Now I may be wrong...
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I remember something fom biology called plasmids whereby genes do just that, and jump around. Thats how we got Bio-engineered Insulin in the early days.
Hell, we call it University, but its more or less the same.
I'm there at the moment and I think that without another 2 years of sleeping through lectures and lazing around bars all day I'de be lost.
Here in the UK we find degrees very important and to study CS has always been on my checklist for life.
I could program when I was 6 , yeah it was BASIC, but it WAS a language (thease days HTML seems to suffice). I don't need Uni for the facts they teach me (although a few cracks are plastered over there). It's the experience that counts.
Here at least the degree itself doesn't count, its the fact that you have studied to that level that wins the jobs.
So I say that a degree (like a diploma but with culture) gives you a better chance and also some of the experiences that make a life worth-while. But that brings up another question, what does a geek need??
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I was refering to DOS, my use of NT consists of the supposedly classic linux scenario:
CD doesn't work
either that or the blue screen at first startup, or the 5 minute wait when it finds I have left a zip disk in the drive and it decides to scandisk it!
then theres the whole service pack fiasco, because of licences NT4 has (i think) 5 service packs not including developer library updates and intermediaries. You have to install thease after base installation meaning some hardware will crash a system on install if it happens to be not backwards compatible.
I havent tried NT with pipes but I know that the dos version of grep is laughable.
Unix options are used by scripts mostly and are derived from a temporary need or an itch for something better.
In terms of the tsr thing again a dos comment. As far as NT goes the shell is still un appealing.
I have used bash under NT and I found it unappealing, I dont like bash for a start (cant find the VI functions). but without the huge supporting shell programs, (join sed awk as examples) it was unwieldly.
Here we write software to run SONET/SDH nodes imagine a windows box running an x terrabit/s add drop multiplexer with all the routing,etc. involved and think about how long before a memory leak would case a blue screen of worse. With 6+ of these involved in a simple phone call a crash could be fatal.
Any OS:
A challenge, Windows CE.
I love saying stuff to my mates like,
or
on this point, Q-DOS clones like windows have problems:
- no pipes! - v. important.
- useless options
- a tsr for history functions
- the shell is not seperable.
- I actually found the shell on the amiga more useable than DOS!!!!
- All serious developers use Unices - ( I work at Bell labs)
-----go to the website and suffer.
About 3 months back I saw an advert, someone had made minicds that would fit to creditcard size, you could store 50M on one and then hand them out to clients/friends/etc. I cant remember the price but it was cheap. They could be printed as well, by the people doing them. I think Ill get some made up with Vice president on them (al a American Psyco). --------- "Once I'm done with kindergarten, I'm going to find me a wife" -Bert, AGE 5
My dya could not happen if I did not have a flushable toilet, modern cities would be near impossible (imagine new york sans facilite). Also the lack of gems such as toilet humour. I belive the toilet shaped pretty much everything since its general use became popular
The reason you cannot hold all real numbers is that there are an infinte number of real numbers and information theory states you would need an infinite amount of memory.
A good few of these unsolvable problems have got to be to do with information theory, right?
How many parents do you think, go out saying " We'll buy a P.C. so that little Jonny can play top of the range computer games and whup ass in Quake 3. Any guesses? Not too many, I'd hazard. No they buy P.C.'s for thier kids do theat they can do thier homework and run *nc*rt* to find out 'stuff'. the games come later when every kid on the block finds out Jonny's got a PIII550! That is why the PC will reign king.
I remember something fom biology called plasmids whereby genes do just that, and jump around. Thats how we got Bio-engineered Insulin in the early days.
Hell, we call it University, but its more or less the same.
I'm there at the moment and I think that without another 2 years of sleeping through lectures and lazing around bars all day I'de be lost.
Here in the UK we find degrees very important and to study CS has always been on my checklist for life.
I could program when I was 6 , yeah it was BASIC, but it WAS a language (thease days HTML seems to suffice). I don't need Uni for the facts they teach me (although a few cracks are plastered over there). It's the experience that counts.
Here at least the degree itself doesn't count, its the fact that you have studied to that level that wins the jobs.
So I say that a degree (like a diploma but with culture) gives you a better chance and also some of the experiences that make a life worth-while. But that brings up another question, what does a geek need??
Oh yeah, GO NOTTINGHAM!!!!
Hell 'we' get 400 Gbps on a single fibre.
But then we're the reason we say *nix!
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