But wouldn't you be *more* pissed if you moved there, signed an apartment lease, settled in, and THEN had the position was cut? I think it's a good idea - gives the almost-employee time to eat while they look for a good gig, not just the first offer they get.
Dunno if it would limit innovation - depends on the scale they do this at. Certainly there needs to be fresh blood or you get the FYIV (Fuck You, I'm Vested) mentality. I don't think we'll run into the salaryman problem in the US - different culture, melting pot, different corporate cultures, and so on.
Hmm, time to upgrade my Anonymizer account. If this passes, I wonder how long I can keep it.
It seems clear to me that a constitutional challenge by the ACLU and other organizations would follow, treaty or no treaty. Since when do we allow enforcement of foreign laws within the United States? With treaties like this in the works, only anonymized Internet access AND servers located in data havens like HavenCo are likely to provide us with protections we (Americans) should already enjoy under the 4th Amendment.
To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, "A people who give up freedom for security deserve neither."
Getting permission before testing security is crucial; however, it's not always protection against overreaction from the powers that be. What Schwartz did was foolish and the prosecution was a massive overreaction, but I think that enough has been said about his case. Something similar happened in our IS department, but the people involved *did* have permission - and weren't prosecuted.
When I worked for Information Systems at my university, I discussed password security with my supervisor which led to a demonstration of L0phtCrack and a revision of our security policy. We occassionally use it to recover forgotten passwords on NT4 workstations. A year or so later, a pair of colleagues asked permission to run a security audit and test NT system security. After permission was granted they broke out the latest version of L0phtCrack and a few other tools, then demonstrated results to their supervisor. The climax of the demonstration was when one logged in to her workstation with her password. It seemed that few people were taking security seriously, including higher-ups (little surprise).
Anyway, their supervisor became extremely irate - she didn't mind them running the audit, but was incensed that they'd cracked *her* password. She terminated both of them on the spot. They were fired for doing their jobs. Go figure.
Anyway, about a week later when tempers had cooled (and work orders were piled sky-high) IS asked one of the guys to come back. In the interim my department hired him, for better pay and working conditions. He's one of the best techs I've ever worked with and we were lucky to get him. Needless to say, he declined to return to IS. The other guy wasn't asked back (conflict of personalities with his supervisor), but found a much better position the same day he was terminated - again, for higher pay and better working conditions.
I guess the moral of the story is that there's really no protection against getting canned. But if you do your job properly, things will turn out in the end.
Yeah, I've scoured the net for something that I haven't been able to find - like how the heck to get XWindows (under RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.2) to work with my ATI All-In-Wonder Rage 128 PCI videocard. I've scoured and scoured using numerous search engines, but haven't found diddly except people asking the same question with no resolution (aside from: get another videocard).:P
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But wouldn't you be *more* pissed if you moved there, signed an apartment lease, settled in, and THEN had the position was cut? I think it's a good idea - gives the almost-employee time to eat while they look for a good gig, not just the first offer they get.
Dunno if it would limit innovation - depends on the scale they do this at. Certainly there needs to be fresh blood or you get the FYIV (Fuck You, I'm Vested) mentality. I don't think we'll run into the salaryman problem in the US - different culture, melting pot, different corporate cultures, and so on.
It seems clear to me that a constitutional challenge by the ACLU and other organizations would follow, treaty or no treaty. Since when do we allow enforcement of foreign laws within the United States? With treaties like this in the works, only anonymized Internet access AND servers located in data havens like HavenCo are likely to provide us with protections we (Americans) should already enjoy under the 4th Amendment.
To paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, "A people who give up freedom for security deserve neither."
Getting permission before testing security is crucial; however, it's not always protection against overreaction from the powers that be. What Schwartz did was foolish and the prosecution was a massive overreaction, but I think that enough has been said about his case. Something similar happened in our IS department, but the people involved *did* have permission - and weren't prosecuted.
When I worked for Information Systems at my university, I discussed password security with my supervisor which led to a demonstration of L0phtCrack and a revision of our security policy. We occassionally use it to recover forgotten passwords on NT4 workstations. A year or so later, a pair of colleagues asked permission to run a security audit and test NT system security. After permission was granted they broke out the latest version of L0phtCrack and a few other tools, then demonstrated results to their supervisor. The climax of the demonstration was when one logged in to her workstation with her password. It seemed that few people were taking security seriously, including higher-ups (little surprise).
Anyway, their supervisor became extremely irate - she didn't mind them running the audit, but was incensed that they'd cracked *her* password. She terminated both of them on the spot. They were fired for doing their jobs. Go figure.
Anyway, about a week later when tempers had cooled (and work orders were piled sky-high) IS asked one of the guys to come back. In the interim my department hired him, for better pay and working conditions. He's one of the best techs I've ever worked with and we were lucky to get him. Needless to say, he declined to return to IS. The other guy wasn't asked back (conflict of personalities with his supervisor), but found a much better position the same day he was terminated - again, for higher pay and better working conditions.
I guess the moral of the story is that there's really no protection against getting canned. But if you do your job properly, things will turn out in the end.
Here's a novel idea - pay for your cable service. That way you can get as many channels as you want...
Yeah, I've scoured the net for something that I haven't been able to find - like how the heck to get XWindows (under RedHat 7.0, Mandrake 7.2) to work with my ATI All-In-Wonder Rage 128 PCI videocard. I've scoured and scoured using numerous search engines, but haven't found diddly except people asking the same question with no resolution (aside from: get another videocard). :P