And what of the freedom to rape your sister in the A**? Or pimp your children? Should you be allowed to kill your co-workers for interfeering with your climb to corporate success?
There are limits to your rights. We base laws on what we think these limitations should be. After a greate deal of violence and social tension, American citizens decided that we DON'T have the right to descriminate based on race. It's illegal buddy.
Not that I would advocate something simply because of the law. Concider this. Your freedom to descriminate against {chose a minority} infringes on that minory's freedom to persue their lively-hood or whatever. What makes your freedom a priority over theirs?
If you're a fundamental libertarian, you should be prepared to accept the erosion of all of your basic human rights: your right to live, your right to property, your right to personal securty (read your rigth to not be raped) etc. You give up these rights when you accept freedom to behave in any way you choose (kill people, steal from people, rape people).
If you're not willing to give up these rights, then you must accept some imposition on your freedom. If you're willing to give up these rights, then I hope you can see that it is ultimately to your benifit to give up some freedom, in order to enforce the rights of yourself and other. I hope that you can see then problem with argueing for freedom for freedom's sake.
- "Concentrate on the good things, then bad things will disappear by themselves."
You've been chained up in the lab too long. Let's look at some real world, present day examples of why this philosophy makes no sense:
Yugoslavia and Uganda: do you think the victems of genecide need to simply concentrate on good things?
On our own turf Pacific Bell has offered some of the crappiest service immaginable, yet continues to expand into markets it doesn't understand. Should we concentrate on how awesome high bandwith access at home will be when PacBell finally figures out install a DSL splitter without burning down your house (or is %20 of the time for those unfortunate enough to get DSL service from PacBell), or should we slam them, make noise, raise public awareness and disapproval and direct people to alternatives (such as the Covad partners)?
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And what of the freedom to rape your sister in the A**? Or pimp your children? Should you be allowed to kill your co-workers for interfeering with your climb to corporate success?
There are limits to your rights. We base laws on what we think these limitations should be. After a greate deal of violence and social tension, American citizens decided that we DON'T have the right to descriminate based on race. It's illegal buddy.
Not that I would advocate something simply because of the law. Concider this. Your freedom to descriminate against {chose a minority} infringes on that minory's freedom to persue their lively-hood or whatever. What makes your freedom a priority over theirs?
If you're a fundamental libertarian, you should be prepared to accept the erosion of all of your basic human rights: your right to live, your right to property, your right to personal securty (read your rigth to not be raped) etc. You give up these rights when you accept freedom to behave in any way you choose (kill people, steal from people, rape people).
If you're not willing to give up these rights, then you must accept some imposition on your freedom. If you're willing to give up these rights, then I hope you can see that it is ultimately to your benifit to give up some freedom, in order to enforce the rights of yourself and other. I hope that you can see then problem with argueing for freedom for freedom's sake.
Be careful what you ask for. You might get it.
Sorry folks,
- "Concentrate on the good things, then bad things will disappear by themselves."
You've been chained up in the lab too long. Let's look at some real world, present day examples of why this philosophy makes no sense:
Yugoslavia and Uganda: do you think the victems of genecide need to simply concentrate on good things?
On our own turf Pacific Bell has offered some of the crappiest service immaginable, yet continues to expand into markets it doesn't understand. Should we concentrate on how awesome high bandwith access at home will be when PacBell finally figures out install a DSL splitter without burning down your house (or is %20 of the time for those unfortunate enough to get DSL service from PacBell), or should we slam them, make noise, raise public awareness and disapproval and direct people to alternatives (such as the Covad partners)?
Microsoft is Crap. Let the world know.