In other words, people knowingly and willingly compromise the security of the home network they sue to do on-line banking, so that they can get away with stealing music. Sad isn't it?
How is that compromising it? My WiFi is wide open and completely unable to access my LAN. Hop on and check your email if you want, but don't expect to access my file shares. Additionally, I use SSL when checking my bank accounts, and I'm more confident in HTTPS than I am with wireless "security".
I'm being neighborly when I let the people around me surf for free, but that doesn't mean they have wide open access to my whole network.
So if you can prove something wrong then that IS science? That makes no sense
You misunderstand. Science is about trying to disprove ideas and seeing which ones hold up to scrutiny. If there is no way possible to prove an idea incorrect, then that idea is not science.
For example, I hypothesize that the Earth is round. A consequence of that idea is that if I travel around it long enough, I'll come back to where I started. If I tried that experiment and it failed, then the Earth could not be round.
Now, take the idea that the Earth was formed last Tuesday by a smartass god who likes to screw with our heads, and he made the world look exactly as though it were 5 billion years old and created all of us with memories extending back before last Tuesday. Maybe it's an interesting thought experiment, but it is not science because there wouldn't be any test you could run that could disprove the idea.
There's more to science than disprovability, but it's a key component and one whose absence is enough to relegate an idea to philosophy instead of genuine scientific inquiry.
Just being the most likely scientific conclusion doesn't make something definitively true
Of course not, and I never said (or would say) otherwise. That doesn't change the fact that evolution has demonstrably occurred. You can argue about the process that shaped it, but that's entirely different than claiming that it didn't happen.
He's saying that claiming creationism is an outright lie requires proof of such a claim. You have to prove not only that it's false (which no one can do, anyway), but that the proponents of it spread it knowing it was false.
A statement can be a lie independent of the intent of the speaker. If I tell you my name is Bob and you pass that on to someone else, then you have repeated the lie. That doesn't make you a liar, nor does it mean that my name really is Bob.
Before I talked the office into buying my Eee, I'd been playing around with a Powerbook 1400 I got for $20 from a school clearance sale. It was a nice little laptop in every way, but by the time I'd have made it actually useful, the Eee probably would have been about the same price. It's the little things you mentioned, like getting PCMCIA working and finding a WiFi card new enough to connect to modern hardware but old enough to work in the old slot, that made me abandon the project.
A pink giraffe was living in my back yard last week. Prove me wrong.
have you proven creationism to be a lie and not told anyone?
Creationism can't be proven wrong, which is why it isn't science.
while you're at it you might as well tell everyone how you proved evolution as fact while the rest of the world is still trying...
Ummm, evolution (as a process) is proven. There is no debate about this whatsoever. There is a tiny, vocal crowd disagreeing with that, but you'll find that with anything. Evolution (as the theory explaining the observed facts) can't be proven because nothing in science can be proven - that's not how it works.
Part of the problem is that every time it wakes up, it sees that 4AM has passed since it was put to sleep and wants to run all the stuff it thinks is important.
If you read the PDF you'll see that members are already prohibited from posting official communications outside the house.gov domain. Is this really such a ridiculous restriction?
As long as you're ok with "Free Speech Zones", no, it's perfectly reasonable.
I do understand what you mean. I feel kind of the same way about iPhones: they're a cool toy, but 99% of the people who think they need one really don't. Still, that doesn't change the fact that some really do, and in the case of the Eee and other UMPCs, I'm finding that I'm in that 1%. I'm not going to trot out my resume to prove my geek cred, but suffice it to say that I know a bit about computing and that the Eee hits the sweet spot for me.
If nothing else, a tiny little SSH terminal that also supports apt-get is a sysadmin's dream come true. It's almost as portable (for me) as the series of Palms that I'd previously run through, has a much larger keyboard than any phone I've seen, and has a huge Free software library on tap. Those aren't big advantages for the general public, but dang, I like it.
I think there is a huge market for a device that sits somewhere between a fully functional (but small) laptop and a cell phone, but I guarantee that said device will boast the form factor of neither.
I'm not so sure. PDAs were neat, but generally too small to get serious work done. While I wouldn't want to use the Eee as my primary programming machine (and that's the main reason I mentioned for my once-a-month eMac usage), I've needed to use it that way for short periods. Maybe I'm just not creative enough, but I can't imagine something as generally useful fitting in a package too much smaller.
BTW, I got the eMac used and on the cheap, and my job bought the Eee for me. I'm not "defending" either purchase because I have next to nothing (except for some extra RAM) invested in either one.
So, given two basically free toys, I find myself using the portable one much more often than the one holding down my desk. I'm sorry that offends you so terribly. Well, not really.
I don't understand people justifying their moronic purchases by using the wrong tool for the wrong job, and I never will.
Neither do I. Those people drive me nuts. For me, the Eee turned out to be perfect for my needs and it was the Mac that was the wrong tool for the job.
using that EEE every day in a fixed location is like strapping a couch to the top of your smart car after lugging it past the open rear door of your box truck.
Very true - if I used it from a fixed location. Which I don't.
Now, I have to ask, because maybe there's just "something" I don't get: What the fuck is that EEE doing on your desk, serving as your main computer, when a nonportable PC (like your Mac) is much more appropriate and functional?
I think you're hearing voices, because I never said anything like that. The Eee is my main computer now, and I use it from the living room, bedroom, kitchen table, and pool in the backyard (wanna try floating with an eMac in your lap?).
Two months ago, he bought a 15-inch Compaq laptop that was on sale for the same price he got the EEE for. It's a much more appropriate machine.
So your friend miscalculated his needs and found something that better fit his actual situation. Good for him! On the other hand, I always thought I wanted/needed a full-size desktop computer, and it turns out that I really wanted/needed a tiny little laptop that can float around the house without hassle.
What I don't get is people who get so worked up about other people having different needs than themselves. I'm not cursing at you for using a desktop, and don't really understand why you're cursing at me for using an UMPC.
It's using AVG, not Norton or McAfee. The main annoyance is that it wants to schedule regular scans - which I have no problem with! - but being a laptop that means in practice that it triggers a full scan every time we turn it on.
If the viral GPL gains sufficient foothold, than there will be NO part of the market that is not considered a commodity, and there will be no place for the vast majority of programmers to make any money, and software will die.
That's ignorant. Something like 95% of programmers are employed to write in-house software for their companies to use, and those jobs are perfectly safe from "the viral GPL". The only people who would stand to lose are the ones writing commodity software in the first place.
Wait, no, there's not even that excuse. There's a patched version--since djbdns is now public domain, you can just grab Debian's dbndns package, which includes IPv6 support.
The problem is that it missed the boat by about a decade. If it hadn't been proprietary until recently, then it might have actually gained some mindshare.
For the last six months, since I static-zapped my desktop, it's been my only personal computer.
Likewise. I have a nice used Mac in my home office that I use when I need a full-sized screen, but in practice that means maybe once a month or so. At home, the 701 has become my main computer.
I'm actually quite happy with the default Xandros install.
I keep wanting to dislike its Playschool interface, but I just can't. Almost every program I'd want to run on a tiny, net-oriented laptop is preinstalled with a big icon, and my "Favorites" tab has everything I actually use on a regular basis. I've installed "advanced mode" so I can have a full-blown KDE session, but once I loaded it to verify that it actually works, I went back to "simple mode".
The last thing they want to do is wait for Windows to load, defrag for an hour, update the antivirus, and then start using facebook...
Ugh, tell me about it. We had to buy a Vista laptop for my wife to run a medical practice management app, and it's a dual-core system with 2GB of memory. By all accounts it's a fast computer, but by the time Vista finishes booting, all of the "update me!" dialogs have been clicked, and it's actually ready to use, she's cussing at the thing.
By contrast, my Eee PC 4G goes from powered-off to using Firefox in under 30 seconds. It actually ships with an antivirus app if you must have that weekly display of pointlessness, but it doesn't run by default. What's not to like about a system that's infinitely more usable than the much faster, more expensive computer sitting next to it?
Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed. Still, that's progress, I guess.
No. They got a nice working computer for a price they found reasonable. Something better will come out for less money next year, and again the year after that.
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In other words, people knowingly and willingly compromise the security of the home network they sue to do on-line banking, so that they can get away with stealing music. Sad isn't it?
How is that compromising it? My WiFi is wide open and completely unable to access my LAN. Hop on and check your email if you want, but don't expect to access my file shares. Additionally, I use SSL when checking my bank accounts, and I'm more confident in HTTPS than I am with wireless "security".
I'm being neighborly when I let the people around me surf for free, but that doesn't mean they have wide open access to my whole network.
Sue them for what? Microsoft makes no guarantees. Read your license agreement.
1) What agreement? I don't see a contract anywhere.
2) MS knows darn well what Windows is being used for. You could interpret their lack of asking people to stop it as implicit acceptance of those uses.
Yep, The prison where I worked as a guard for a while changed their control center from mechanical switches to a PC running XP.
Anyone got Hans's address?
So if you can prove something wrong then that IS science? That makes no sense
You misunderstand. Science is about trying to disprove ideas and seeing which ones hold up to scrutiny. If there is no way possible to prove an idea incorrect, then that idea is not science.
For example, I hypothesize that the Earth is round. A consequence of that idea is that if I travel around it long enough, I'll come back to where I started. If I tried that experiment and it failed, then the Earth could not be round.
Now, take the idea that the Earth was formed last Tuesday by a smartass god who likes to screw with our heads, and he made the world look exactly as though it were 5 billion years old and created all of us with memories extending back before last Tuesday. Maybe it's an interesting thought experiment, but it is not science because there wouldn't be any test you could run that could disprove the idea.
There's more to science than disprovability, but it's a key component and one whose absence is enough to relegate an idea to philosophy instead of genuine scientific inquiry.
Yeah, no one ever did that.
Just being the most likely scientific conclusion doesn't make something definitively true
Of course not, and I never said (or would say) otherwise. That doesn't change the fact that evolution has demonstrably occurred. You can argue about the process that shaped it, but that's entirely different than claiming that it didn't happen.
He's saying that claiming creationism is an outright lie requires proof of such a claim. You have to prove not only that it's false (which no one can do, anyway), but that the proponents of it spread it knowing it was false.
A statement can be a lie independent of the intent of the speaker. If I tell you my name is Bob and you pass that on to someone else, then you have repeated the lie. That doesn't make you a liar, nor does it mean that my name really is Bob.
Before I talked the office into buying my Eee, I'd been playing around with a Powerbook 1400 I got for $20 from a school clearance sale. It was a nice little laptop in every way, but by the time I'd have made it actually useful, the Eee probably would have been about the same price. It's the little things you mentioned, like getting PCMCIA working and finding a WiFi card new enough to connect to modern hardware but old enough to work in the old slot, that made me abandon the project.
I'd like to see someone drive a car without feet!
The car I drove this morning has no feet. It's just an Oldsmobile and not particularly exciting.
how do you know it's a lie?
A pink giraffe was living in my back yard last week. Prove me wrong.
have you proven creationism to be a lie and not told anyone?
Creationism can't be proven wrong, which is why it isn't science.
while you're at it you might as well tell everyone how you proved evolution as fact while the rest of the world is still trying...
Ummm, evolution (as a process) is proven. There is no debate about this whatsoever. There is a tiny, vocal crowd disagreeing with that, but you'll find that with anything. Evolution (as the theory explaining the observed facts) can't be proven because nothing in science can be proven - that's not how it works.
By the way, I'm a conservative Christian.
Part of the problem is that every time it wakes up, it sees that 4AM has passed since it was put to sleep and wants to run all the stuff it thinks is important.
If you read the PDF you'll see that members are already prohibited from posting official communications outside the house.gov domain. Is this really such a ridiculous restriction?
As long as you're ok with "Free Speech Zones", no, it's perfectly reasonable.
I do understand what you mean. I feel kind of the same way about iPhones: they're a cool toy, but 99% of the people who think they need one really don't. Still, that doesn't change the fact that some really do, and in the case of the Eee and other UMPCs, I'm finding that I'm in that 1%. I'm not going to trot out my resume to prove my geek cred, but suffice it to say that I know a bit about computing and that the Eee hits the sweet spot for me.
If nothing else, a tiny little SSH terminal that also supports apt-get is a sysadmin's dream come true. It's almost as portable (for me) as the series of Palms that I'd previously run through, has a much larger keyboard than any phone I've seen, and has a huge Free software library on tap. Those aren't big advantages for the general public, but dang, I like it.
I think there is a huge market for a device that sits somewhere between a fully functional (but small) laptop and a cell phone, but I guarantee that said device will boast the form factor of neither.
I'm not so sure. PDAs were neat, but generally too small to get serious work done. While I wouldn't want to use the Eee as my primary programming machine (and that's the main reason I mentioned for my once-a-month eMac usage), I've needed to use it that way for short periods. Maybe I'm just not creative enough, but I can't imagine something as generally useful fitting in a package too much smaller.
BTW, I got the eMac used and on the cheap, and my job bought the Eee for me. I'm not "defending" either purchase because I have next to nothing (except for some extra RAM) invested in either one.
So, given two basically free toys, I find myself using the portable one much more often than the one holding down my desk. I'm sorry that offends you so terribly. Well, not really.
I don't understand people justifying their moronic purchases by using the wrong tool for the wrong job, and I never will.
Neither do I. Those people drive me nuts. For me, the Eee turned out to be perfect for my needs and it was the Mac that was the wrong tool for the job.
using that EEE every day in a fixed location is like strapping a couch to the top of your smart car after lugging it past the open rear door of your box truck.
Very true - if I used it from a fixed location. Which I don't.
Now, I have to ask, because maybe there's just "something" I don't get: What the fuck is that EEE doing on your desk, serving as your main computer, when a nonportable PC (like your Mac) is much more appropriate and functional?
I think you're hearing voices, because I never said anything like that. The Eee is my main computer now, and I use it from the living room, bedroom, kitchen table, and pool in the backyard (wanna try floating with an eMac in your lap?).
Two months ago, he bought a 15-inch Compaq laptop that was on sale for the same price he got the EEE for. It's a much more appropriate machine.
So your friend miscalculated his needs and found something that better fit his actual situation. Good for him! On the other hand, I always thought I wanted/needed a full-size desktop computer, and it turns out that I really wanted/needed a tiny little laptop that can float around the house without hassle.
What I don't get is people who get so worked up about other people having different needs than themselves. I'm not cursing at you for using a desktop, and don't really understand why you're cursing at me for using an UMPC.
I have a 17" LCD that sits, alone, on my desk... plugs nicely right into the 701, and poof, 1280x1024.
As soon as I find the VGA input on this $#!()% eMac, I'm so there.
It's using AVG, not Norton or McAfee. The main annoyance is that it wants to schedule regular scans - which I have no problem with! - but being a laptop that means in practice that it triggers a full scan every time we turn it on.
If the viral GPL gains sufficient foothold, than there will be NO part of the market that is not considered a commodity, and there will be no place for the vast majority of programmers to make any money, and software will die.
That's ignorant. Something like 95% of programmers are employed to write in-house software for their companies to use, and those jobs are perfectly safe from "the viral GPL". The only people who would stand to lose are the ones writing commodity software in the first place.
Wait, no, there's not even that excuse. There's a patched version--since djbdns is now public domain, you can just grab Debian's dbndns package, which includes IPv6 support.
The problem is that it missed the boat by about a decade. If it hadn't been proprietary until recently, then it might have actually gained some mindshare.
Let me guess, it's an HP with (approx) 40,000 pieces of crapware installed?
Good (and correct) guess. I've disabled pretty much everything but the AV, but it's still not exactly quick.
For the last six months, since I static-zapped my desktop, it's been my only personal computer.
Likewise. I have a nice used Mac in my home office that I use when I need a full-sized screen, but in practice that means maybe once a month or so. At home, the 701 has become my main computer.
We can be sure that Asus will release a cheaper and not-so-beefed-up model for the folks that are waiting for the $200 model.
Someone will, if not Asus.
I'm actually quite happy with the default Xandros install.
I keep wanting to dislike its Playschool interface, but I just can't. Almost every program I'd want to run on a tiny, net-oriented laptop is preinstalled with a big icon, and my "Favorites" tab has everything I actually use on a regular basis. I've installed "advanced mode" so I can have a full-blown KDE session, but once I loaded it to verify that it actually works, I went back to "simple mode".
But Firefox 3, oh how you're wanted.
The last thing they want to do is wait for Windows to load, defrag for an hour, update the antivirus, and then start using facebook...
Ugh, tell me about it. We had to buy a Vista laptop for my wife to run a medical practice management app, and it's a dual-core system with 2GB of memory. By all accounts it's a fast computer, but by the time Vista finishes booting, all of the "update me!" dialogs have been clicked, and it's actually ready to use, she's cussing at the thing.
By contrast, my Eee PC 4G goes from powered-off to using Firefox in under 30 seconds. It actually ships with an antivirus app if you must have that weekly display of pointlessness, but it doesn't run by default. What's not to like about a system that's infinitely more usable than the much faster, more expensive computer sitting next to it?
Looks like those early Eee PC 900 adopters (£329 inc VAT, initially) have been stiffed. Still, that's progress, I guess.
No. They got a nice working computer for a price they found reasonable. Something better will come out for less money next year, and again the year after that.