The Specht v. Netscape case (which found that a license agreement for software available for free download from a website was not enforceable because there was no affirmative indication of assent to it required before downloading the software).
It's the APSL with a prefix that says "If you use this code in any way, you will be deemed to have accepted all the terms of the license". And inside it also says that you must use click-wrap if you can, and if not you must show them the license so that they know that using it is agreeing with it.
This is a use license. You must agree to the license before you use the software. The OSD doesn't mention any restrictions on use. It only delimits the restrictions that you may or not place on redistribution. -russ
Well, the whole time I've known him, it's been spelled Karl. Maybe he doesn't care about how it's spelled and so didn't bother getting it fixed on his nametag. Or maybe he was just trying to confuse people who didn't know him all that well, as a hack. Anyway, it's definitely Karl Auerbach. -russ
No. Security through obscurity is when you run your relaying smtp server on port 27 instead of port 25. Real security is when you only relay when the user has authenticated cryptographically using SMTPAUTH. -russ
No. Security through obscurity means that your task is made easier on every decryption by knowing something which is intended to be a secret. Needing to factor a number every time isn't obscurity. It's just plain hard. -russ
You can already do this. Assign your copyright to the Free Software Foundation. Take the assignation contract and use it as a receipt. The only trick is coming up with a valuation for the software that the IRS will believe. As long as it's a plausible valuation, the IRS won't assess penalties if you get audited. They'll just hit you with interest charges. -russ
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When I was but a lad, we used to vacation in Rangeley Lakes, ME. My father (who worked for AT&T at the time) took the family over to Andover to see the ground station. I remember it as being this fantastically huge globe with a microwave transmitter inside it.
Also, I remember my father taking us outside of our home on Long Island to see Telstar going overhead. Nowadays, you can see satellites just by looking up and waiting ten or fifteen minutes. -russ
No irony at all. "Apache" is a trademark owned by the Apache Software Foundation. They're perfectly within their rights to protect the name. And so are we to protect the logo from trademark infringement.
It's more than just a logo. It's a trademark. Like "Apache". Just try creating a "Navaho" web server product, or "Apachy" web server. You'll find some distinctly unhappy folks waving around law books. -russ
Yes, you can put that logo on your web page and say that your software is OSI Certified Open Source. In fact we encourage you to do exactly that. -russ
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The Specht v. Netscape case (which found that a license agreement for software available for free download from a website was not enforceable because there was no affirmative indication of assent to it required before downloading the software).
You need a contract to disclaim warranty.
-russ
It's the APSL with a prefix that says "If you use this code in any way, you will be deemed to have accepted all the terms of the license". And inside it also says that you must use click-wrap if you can, and if not you must show them the license so that they know that using it is agreeing with it.
This is a use license. You must agree to the license before you use the software. The OSD doesn't mention any restrictions on use. It only delimits the restrictions that you may or not place on redistribution.
-russ
Well, the whole time I've known him, it's been spelled Karl. Maybe he doesn't care about how it's spelled and so didn't bother getting it fixed on his nametag. Or maybe he was just trying to confuse people who didn't know him all that well, as a hack. Anyway, it's definitely Karl Auerbach.
-russ
No. A spelling flame must have exactly one spelling error in it, not two. This is not a spelling flame and so has zero spelling errors in it.
-russ
You obviously met him in person, because the proper spelling of his first name, Karl, is not exactly tattooed on his forehead.
-russ
And maybe a speling checker too.
-russ
'bout time ICANN had their nose bloodied! And they had the nerve to say that they were considering appealing the decision!?! What gall.
-russ
I was going to bid, but I only had $34,000.
-russ
No. Security through obscurity is when you run your relaying smtp server on port 27 instead of port 25. Real security is when you only relay when the user has authenticated cryptographically using SMTPAUTH.
-russ
I'm curious: did you read what I wrote or are you replying to the original poster to whom I was writing?
-russ
No. Security through obscurity means that your task is made easier on every decryption by knowing something which is intended to be a secret. Needing to factor a number every time isn't obscurity. It's just plain hard.
-russ
You can already do this. Assign your copyright to the Free Software Foundation. Take the assignation contract and use it as a receipt. The only trick is coming up with a valuation for the software that the IRS will believe. As long as it's a plausible valuation, the IRS won't assess penalties if you get audited. They'll just hit you with interest charges.
-russ
When I was but a lad, we used to vacation in Rangeley Lakes, ME. My father (who worked for AT&T at the time) took the family over to Andover to see the ground station. I remember it as being this fantastically huge globe with a microwave transmitter inside it.
Also, I remember my father taking us outside of our home on Long Island to see Telstar going overhead. Nowadays, you can see satellites just by looking up and waiting ten or fifteen minutes.
-russ
The Public Software Fund would be happy to accept funding for any BSD project. Write a check!
-russ
Heck, if people want to write public software in pubs, that's fine with us. If you don't like pubsoft.org, then use publicsoftware.org.
-russ
If you donate $10 to this project, all of it goes to paying Tom to work that much longer on it. Even $10 will help.
-russ
If it has a market value, then yes, you could donate it.
-russ
No irony at all. "Apache" is a trademark owned by the Apache Software Foundation. They're perfectly within their rights to protect the name. And so are we to protect the logo from trademark infringement.
Unfortunately, you can't deduct services donated to a non-profit, at least under US tax law.
-russ
"we"? "our"? Who exactly are you meaning to impersonate? Eric? Michael? Guido? Danese? Or me?
-russ
Yeah, we heard about that before-hand. Aren't worried about it, since it's a completely different market.
-russ
Certification tells you that somebody is putting their reputation on the line. You don't have to be a PHB to appreciate that.
-russ
It's more than just a logo. It's a trademark. Like "Apache". Just try creating a "Navaho" web server product, or "Apachy" web server. You'll find some distinctly unhappy folks waving around law books.
-russ
Yes, you can put that logo on your web page and say that your software is OSI Certified Open Source. In fact we encourage you to do exactly that.
-russ
I think yours got rejected because we felt it might be confused with the logo of a ski resort. Looks too much like a snowflake, y'see.
-russ