Big deal. Really! Big frigggin deal. Are you any good at basketball? Oil painting? Fixing cars? How about roller-skating? Flying an airplane?
This "I know computing thus I am holier than thou and you are crud beneath my feet" attitude HAS GOT TO GO.
Some people, heck, MOST people will *forever* need to have their hands held when it comes to computing. It's not that big a deal to them. They don't care to comb the depths, and learn the ins and outs. They have other talents, and other interests. A PC is one means to an end for them---and just because we happen to be good at it does not elevate us to GOD status or give us the right to look down upon them. So what they need handholding and tech support. It's just a friggin machine.
You might be lost if suddenly thrust into the middle of a basketball game, or if you found yourself with brush in hand and canvas nearby overlooking a beutiful sunset. Or if a box of struts was left on your doorstep with a note asking you to install them in moms car.
Would anyone look down upon you? Nope. Not your intrests, not your cup of tea. We should look the same way at the non-computer literate.
Hmmmmmm. I don't know that it should anymore. It's just Microsoft up to their old tricks again.
But something is different this time.
Linux is a *known* name and people who want it will ask for it, demand it, or take their money elsewhere.
I'd like to see Microsoft get pimp-slapped by the EU, of course, but I would be just as happy if Dell lost face and business by bowing to pressure and being the equivalent of Bill Gates lap dog.
Perception is just that...what one percieves. And if you're looking for a 'message' or 'beauty' or 'art' *anywhere* you can probably fool yoour mind into thinking you see it.
What I like though is the spreading of the Open Source message. Far and wide. When it hits venues like this you know it's big.
Reports and quotes from so called 'experts' who have this weakness of Linux to complain about and another harping on another set of negatives. All negative...all the time. Watch for it. We're so strong now and growing...and they're so quiet. It's scary.
Redhat should begin splashing some of that money onto full page ads in the trade magazines---and not just harping their own distro. Stuff for the community...
Easy...they force software manufacterers to add auditing software to their email package. It measures quarterly and you send it in like you do your taxes. Your ISP adds it into your account...
"the margin of victory was smaller than in Mindcraft's tests."
"Where kernel problems were found, fixes are **already** under way"
It's not FUD, but valuable advertising for Microsoft to use in their campaign against Linux. This is where REDHAT and CALDERA and SUSE
*******should*******
stand up and put out counter-advertising that plays UP the strengths of the OS instead of allowing Microsoft to run fullpage ads in PCWeek and other 'management'read magazines.
The USB hardware spec is FIRM. So they can buld that into the box. Only the software needs work, and after they get it going, because the OS is flashable, they can update it.
They do. We live in a culture of violence and the video games, music, and the actions of others are all off-shoots of it.
I'll stand in a crowd of millions and stand up and say : ANYONE who plays a game where killing, graphic killing, is the motive and primary purpose---is OFF. Thats not basic human nature.
Not EVERYONE who plays doom or quake has to kill someone to prove that it can lead to a killing. If only one person plays quake and it leads to an irrational desire to kill----then it can be said that Quake leads to Killin'
Your example does not correlate well into the real world and is indicative of one who seeks to jusitfy what he is doing instead of opening his mind and seeing whether or not a thing is possibly so.
Theres not prove-able proof either way. But when you think about it-----games as violent and as graphic as these are relatively new. School shootings as we are experiencing them now are also a relatively new phenomena. MIGHT there be a connection? Again we can't prove it---but believe there might be.
If anything----the violence in games desensitizes one to the effects of violence. It removes the 'shock value' and goes some way toward making it simply a 'part' of life. This, in my opinion, makes it easier for a child to conceive of shooting, hurting, a lot of people and not 'natur ally' feeling wrong about thinking or even doing it the way many of us adults would.
That Linux may not be the end all and be all of operating systems in the near future I may choose to become Future FreeBSD Guru, and Future Solaris Guru and Future (ACK!) NT Guru...
The media and the ope-source critics will use this as an example of what *THEY BELIEVE* opensource to be-----a bunch of people who want something for nothing.
Its fine to donate the book to the community for all to read...but don't attach open source to it.
The work I've been able to do on OL has greatly improved my Linux Experience with Mandrake at home. I'm building a box, and it will have a Linux distro (hmmmmmmm...which) running Sol X86 and Win95 in vmware....
I got Linux up and running in no time flat---I was able to putz around and run different applications, I was able to get ethernet configured (work LAN)----It just works in this corporate environment. And ya know what?
Thats what Caldera is after. With this---they might get it.
All I needed was a working distro so I could work backwards and figure out how everything works. Now I'm learning to edit my own files---seeing how they work before being changed: It's all good.
Next stop --- Solaris. Thats where the money is, and this is a good tutorial for me.
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Big deal. Really! Big frigggin deal. Are you any good at basketball? Oil painting? Fixing cars? How about roller-skating? Flying an airplane?
This "I know computing thus I am holier than thou and you are crud beneath my feet" attitude HAS GOT TO GO.
Some people, heck, MOST people will *forever* need to have their hands held when it comes to computing. It's not that big a deal to them. They don't care to comb the depths, and learn the ins and outs. They have other talents, and other interests. A PC is one means to an end for them---and just because we happen to be good at it does not elevate us to GOD status or give us the right to look down upon them. So what they need handholding and tech support. It's just a friggin machine.
You might be lost if suddenly thrust into the middle of a basketball game, or if you found yourself with brush in hand and canvas nearby overlooking a beutiful sunset. Or if a box of struts was left on your doorstep with a note asking you to install them in moms car.
Would anyone look down upon you? Nope. Not your intrests, not your cup of tea. We should look the same way at the non-computer literate.
OH
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MCSE's with Unix skills, or vice-versa, are *extremely* well paid and very marketable.
...It didn't come out in time enough to stem the record setting 200,000+ pre-orders for the Sega Dreamcast...
(http://www.infiniteplanes.net/segaworld/news/n
...It's going to cost the US equivalent of $391 dollars to $199 for the Dreamcast (which looks awesome!)...
(http://psx.ign.com/news/9498.html)
(http://headline.gamespot.com/news/99_08/17_vg_
...It'll hit more than a year after the Dreamcast starts out, and with the above mentioned advantages...
Hmmmmmm. I don't know that it should anymore. It's just Microsoft up to their old tricks again.
But something is different this time.
Linux is a *known* name and people who want it will ask for it, demand it, or take their money elsewhere.
I'd like to see Microsoft get pimp-slapped by the EU, of course, but I would be just as happy if Dell lost face and business by bowing to pressure and being the equivalent of Bill Gates lap dog.
LOL!
Perception is just that...what one percieves. And if you're looking for a 'message' or 'beauty' or 'art' *anywhere* you can probably fool yoour mind into thinking you see it.
What I like though is the spreading of the Open Source message. Far and wide. When it hits venues like this you know it's big.
Reports and quotes from so called 'experts' who have this weakness of Linux to complain about and another harping on another set of negatives. All negative...all the time. Watch for it. We're so strong now and growing...and they're so quiet. It's scary.
Redhat should begin splashing some of that money onto full page ads in the trade magazines---and not just harping their own distro. Stuff for the community...
typical slashdotter...a coward who insults only via the web. Go crawl back under your rock
Easy...they force software manufacterers to add auditing software to their email package. It measures quarterly and you send it in like you do your taxes. Your ISP adds it into your account...
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GEEK!!!!
lol
"the margin of victory was smaller than in Mindcraft's tests."
"Where kernel problems were found, fixes are **already** under way"
It's not FUD, but valuable advertising for Microsoft to use in their campaign against Linux. This is where REDHAT and CALDERA and SUSE
*******should*******
stand up and put out counter-advertising that plays UP the strengths of the OS instead of allowing Microsoft to run fullpage ads in PCWeek and other 'management'read magazines.
the gu ru
The USB hardware spec is FIRM. So they can buld that into the box. Only the software needs work, and after they get it going, because the OS is flashable, they can update it.
End of Story.
and not hard links?
I missed class that day...
You truly *are* a coward to say such things without showing your face around here.
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Wrong. wrong. Wrong. I may go solaris too---I'm installing it on a box I'm building...but to say it's obsolete is ridiculous.
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They do. We live in a culture of violence and the video games, music, and the actions of others are all off-shoots of it.
I'll stand in a crowd of millions and stand up and say : ANYONE who plays a game where killing, graphic killing, is the motive and primary purpose---is OFF. Thats not basic human nature.
BULL
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Not EVERYONE who plays doom or quake has to kill someone to prove that it can lead to a killing. If only one person plays quake and it leads to an irrational desire to kill----then it can be said that Quake leads to Killin'
Your example does not correlate well into the real world and is indicative of one who seeks to jusitfy what he is doing instead of opening his mind and seeing whether or not a thing is possibly so.
Just like you can't say it DOES have an effect.
Theres not prove-able proof either way. But when you think about it-----games as violent and as graphic as these are relatively new. School shootings as we are experiencing them now are also a relatively new phenomena. MIGHT there be a connection? Again we can't prove it---but believe there might be.
If anything----the violence in games desensitizes one to the effects of violence. It removes the 'shock value' and goes some way toward making it simply a 'part' of life. This, in my opinion, makes it easier for a child to conceive of shooting, hurting, a lot of people and not 'natur ally' feeling wrong about thinking or even doing it the way many of us adults would.
yeah...
watch those tesh machines r*e*a*l careful.
;)
EXCELLENTLY put!
That Linux may not be the end all and be all of operating systems in the near future I may choose to become Future FreeBSD Guru, and Future Solaris Guru and Future (ACK!) NT Guru...
The media and the ope-source critics will use this as an example of what *THEY BELIEVE* opensource to be-----a bunch of people who want something for nothing.
Its fine to donate the book to the community for all to read...but don't attach open source to it.
The work I've been able to do on OL has greatly improved my Linux Experience with Mandrake at home. I'm building a box, and it will have a Linux distro (hmmmmmmm...which) running Sol X86 and Win95 in vmware....
I got Linux up and running in no time flat---I was able to putz around and run different applications, I was able to get ethernet configured (work LAN)----It just works in this corporate environment. And ya know what?
Thats what Caldera is after. With this---they might get it.
All I needed was a working distro so I could work backwards and figure out how everything works. Now I'm learning to edit my own files---seeing how they work before being changed: It's all good.
Next stop --- Solaris. Thats where the money is, and this is a good tutorial for me.