In an ideal world then all extension authors would test their extensions with the release candidates and have things good to go by release time, but most of these people who write extensions have jobs so may not have the time to update their extensions.
I would really like to see the Mozilla Foundation employing the authors of the most popular extensions and make them official so that they'd be ready by every release.
For some people extensions are the biggest selling point of Firefox.
You mean only those running XP or later? Mozilla now have an ideal target in Windows 2000 (businesses) and 98 (still in some peoples homes) as well as Linux and Mac.
Everyone should know by now that extensions often take a few weeks to get updated. The extension mechanism can be annoying when there's a major update but it's like that so that extension authors are encouraged to test their extensions with new versions.
Most people actually use Firefox without extensions and by default it's a lot more featureful than IE6 and about as featureful as IE7 some people say too much was put in 2.0. You can't please everybody so instead of putting everything under the sun like Seamonkey (the Mozilla suite) or Opera they've decided on the options that are of most use to the most people and allowed others to add the extra features.
Also worth noting is that bugfix support for 1.5 will continue for a while so you can keep using it to wait for all your extensions to be compatible with the new version.
Also, there's choice in the market if Firefox is not for you. I personally prefer Firefox to Opera, but Opera is a good browser and it's worth trying it may suit your needs better.
That's what Google is for. Anyway, the best way to remember the URL for Firefox downloads is getfirefox.com or even just firefox.com will get you there eventually.
For those that didn't know Firefox 2 RC3 was the same release as the final 2.0 so people who had already downloaded the release candidate didn't need to download the final (Help > About shows the build number and they're identical). This is usual with Mozilla releases, the release candidates are actual candidates for release (unlike MS) so the final RC usually becomes the real release.
So people with RC3 don't count in these stats unless they didn't realise and downloaded 2.0 again.
I prefer the mac way, the menu bars are out of the way, but always in a consistent location (top of the screen) so easy to reach when needed. The IE7/Vista was is just retarded and not intuitive
Umm, are the core2duos 64-bit? I have a couple Dell core2duo Inspiron E1505s and I'm fairly certain they are not 64-bit.
I'd have to double check that. It's also possible for various reasons that the Dells ship with the 32-bit Windows XP for various reasons (perhaps better driver support, I don't know) but then again perhaps the slashdot summary is just wrong.
..just catches up with my six month old Acer notebook that cost less money, with the exception of the processor (mine's a Core Duo, although the BIOS has been Core 2 Duo capable for months and I could put one in if I wanted to do so).
Once again proving that Macbooks are thoroughly overpriced and overrated.
The Apple hardware has something no other manufacturer offers - an OS X licence, also some people pay for the design too, others don't care.
But I want a machine I can run OS X and Linux on, I don't care about Windows, I only use that when I'm paid to (work... occaisionally). Any PC will run Linux, but only Apple hardware runs OSX.
It's good to see 64-bit CPU's in their laptop range eventually, as there was never a G5 laptop this is the first 64bit Mac laptop. This will give me an excuse to upgrade my aging iBook. I will get a 17" model and keep the 14" iBook when I need something a bit more compact.
The 17" MacBook Pro has always had Firewire 800 but it's good to see it returning to the smaller models, I remember reading the reason for its disappearance was to do with space concerns on the smaller models rather than Apple deciding there was no future in Firewire 800.
Yes, autoupdate will allow you to update to 2.0. You have the option to refuse the update. If you refuse the update then the update will still offer you point releases of the 1.5.x series while it continues to be supported.
One of the biggest complaints about IE7 is that it does not obey the standard user interface guidelines for Windows XP. As an update that'll be pushed to users automatically next month do you not consider it a bad idea to break platform conventions?
There is a workaround that involves editing the registry to get the menu bar in the correct place but why is this not implemented as part of toolbar customisation?
In the UK I suspect a lot of run of the mill ISPs will die out with Sky (news corps UK satellite service) and mobile phone companies like Orange offering free broadband to their customers. I'm not sure why ntl:Telewest our biggest cable company has still not offered the service free yet but I'm sure they will so they don't lose out to Sky.
But with most people getting broadband for free once these rollouts complete the only market for a subscription ISP will be for those that need something the free ISPs don't offer (static IP's, usenet, etc), that's not an AOL niche.
Furthermore.. I wish someone would class-action sue Apple for emotional distress to public transport users.
Or more sensibly blame the cause of the problem, the person who has their volume turned up too high! No need to sue, just ask them nicely to turn the volume down or punch them in the head!
People listening to headphones is not as bad as a worrying trend I've seen on some London buses when groups of kids start playing music through the speakers of their mobile phone (cell). No not ringtones, but full tracks!
It's even worse when those tracks aren't even the real artist but are cover versions like what they sell on boltblue. Yes, people actually pay £3 for a full track song to listen on their mobiles that's not even sung by the original artists! crazy.
Back then I think I'd have agreed with Taco, 5GB storage did not make it worth buying, although UI wise it has probably been the best player around for the vast majority of people.
When the 60GB models first came out I bought one, now they've improved a lot beyond that. The 80GB one is both thinner than my 60GB and plays video, the nanos are excellent for those people where 5GB would be enough. For the average user iTunes is much easier than filesystem drag/drop and a lot better written than most other similar software and for those that want it then you can use it as a USB (or Firewire - mine was one of the last models that supported both) drive.
Now they even created a limited edition version for Windows users that included a FREE virus. All the fun of the IE users Internet without having to pay a pesky subscription.
Walmart's so called moral values for the items they stock vary on a country by country basis to fit their target demographic. Obviously they decide that banning anything slighly offensive is a pointless policy in the UK that will only lower their sales as people will go elsewhere.
I won't be around then but I have to say further involvement in EU software policies would make me renew my UKUUG membership. I let mine lapse a few years ago because I never had the time to go to your conferences which at the time was my main reason for being a member.
Also you need to encourage the same from other EU groups you're associated with (e.g. NLUUG)
It is not an alpha of Firefox 3, that has not been released yet. It's just the trunk is listed as version 3.0a1 that'll eventually be 3.0a1 but it is not there yet and won't be for a while
It looks fine on Windows and although the tabs don't look native anymore I actually prefer them. But on the Mac it looks less like a Mac application now than it did before, but that can be corrected by themes.
Still, I'm hoping for better Mac integration in 3.0 than is seen currently not just on the UI front but with spellchecking and password management, Mac OS X has support for both built in and so it'd be better if they used this on a mac rather then their own implementations.
Give it a few weeks, this is a release candidate and hopefully this one will be ready for release. Unlike Microsoft, the Mozilla project usually mean the release candidates can true candidates for release therefore most extension developers can work on testing their extensions against this release knowing that it's unlikely to break in the final.
Last year 1.5 had 3 release candidates and 1.5 final was identical to RC3. So hopefully this year they get it right on the third attempt too.
Anyway, give it a few weeks and your extensions will most likely be working and tested. There's no one forcing you to upgrade and the 1.5 branch will be supported for a while yet.
In the end anyone who puts up TV shows on one of these services is going well beyond fair use but all Google should have to do is pull it down when asked.
However, content providers that don't embrace video services like youtube will end up losing out in the long run. There's a lot of other ways people can get the content, now they've had a taste of what's possible then more and more people would start looking elsewhere (P2P maybe) for their content should it be pulled from Googles servers. So it makes sense for the content providers to stike a deal with Google and get a share of ad revenue rather than drive people to P2P where they get nothing.
It's good to see Google is already striking deals with other companies.
It makes sense as people have had a long time to test their apps against XP SP2 and report bugs to MS. Of course if SP2 breaks anything and you're a paying customer then I can understand why you'd want to stay on SP1 otherwise SP2 offers some advanages.
I think things like WGA are being forced on people whatever version they're running so that's no reason not to upgrade.
When the upgrade is included in the initial purchase cost then this is fine. If they dropped support for XP altogether then that would have been bad but just think of SP2 as an update.
Anyway I hate MS versioning schemes, why service pack why not call it a point release? They also love weird names for their beta software I remember the IE7 beta 2 preview refresh (which was the second pre-release before beta 2)
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In an ideal world then all extension authors would test their extensions with the release candidates and have things good to go by release time, but most of these people who write extensions have jobs so may not have the time to update their extensions.
I would really like to see the Mozilla Foundation employing the authors of the most popular extensions and make them official so that they'd be ready by every release.
For some people extensions are the biggest selling point of Firefox.
You mean only those running XP or later? Mozilla now have an ideal target in Windows 2000 (businesses) and 98 (still in some peoples homes) as well as Linux and Mac.
Everyone should know by now that extensions often take a few weeks to get updated. The extension mechanism can be annoying when there's a major update but it's like that so that extension authors are encouraged to test their extensions with new versions.
Most people actually use Firefox without extensions and by default it's a lot more featureful than IE6 and about as featureful as IE7 some people say too much was put in 2.0. You can't please everybody so instead of putting everything under the sun like Seamonkey (the Mozilla suite) or Opera they've decided on the options that are of most use to the most people and allowed others to add the extra features.
Also worth noting is that bugfix support for 1.5 will continue for a while so you can keep using it to wait for all your extensions to be compatible with the new version.
Also, there's choice in the market if Firefox is not for you. I personally prefer Firefox to Opera, but Opera is a good browser and it's worth trying it may suit your needs better.
That's what Google is for. Anyway, the best way to remember the URL for Firefox downloads is getfirefox.com or even just firefox.com will get you there eventually.
For those that didn't know Firefox 2 RC3 was the same release as the final 2.0 so people who had already downloaded the release candidate didn't need to download the final (Help > About shows the build number and they're identical). This is usual with Mozilla releases, the release candidates are actual candidates for release (unlike MS) so the final RC usually becomes the real release.
So people with RC3 don't count in these stats unless they didn't realise and downloaded 2.0 again.
Type about:credits into Firefox and search for that name. He's not there!
I prefer the mac way, the menu bars are out of the way, but always in a consistent location (top of the screen) so easy to reach when needed. The IE7/Vista was is just retarded and not intuitive
I'd have to double check that. It's also possible for various reasons that the Dells ship with the 32-bit Windows XP for various reasons (perhaps better driver support, I don't know) but then again perhaps the slashdot summary is just wrong.
The Apple hardware has something no other manufacturer offers - an OS X licence, also some people pay for the design too, others don't care.
But I want a machine I can run OS X and Linux on, I don't care about Windows, I only use that when I'm paid to (work... occaisionally). Any PC will run Linux, but only Apple hardware runs OSX.
It's good to see 64-bit CPU's in their laptop range eventually, as there was never a G5 laptop this is the first 64bit Mac laptop. This will give me an excuse to upgrade my aging iBook. I will get a 17" model and keep the 14" iBook when I need something a bit more compact.
The 17" MacBook Pro has always had Firewire 800 but it's good to see it returning to the smaller models, I remember reading the reason for its disappearance was to do with space concerns on the smaller models rather than Apple deciding there was no future in Firewire 800.
Yes, autoupdate will allow you to update to 2.0. You have the option to refuse the update. If you refuse the update then the update will still offer you point releases of the 1.5.x series while it continues to be supported.
IE7 is the first release that does not mention Spyglass Mosaic in the about box.
There is a workaround that involves editing the registry to get the menu bar in the correct place but why is this not implemented as part of toolbar customisation?
In the UK I suspect a lot of run of the mill ISPs will die out with Sky (news corps UK satellite service) and mobile phone companies like Orange offering free broadband to their customers. I'm not sure why ntl:Telewest our biggest cable company has still not offered the service free yet but I'm sure they will so they don't lose out to Sky.
But with most people getting broadband for free once these rollouts complete the only market for a subscription ISP will be for those that need something the free ISPs don't offer (static IP's, usenet, etc), that's not an AOL niche.
If Google is doing so wrong then why the Google ads?
Or more sensibly blame the cause of the problem, the person who has their volume turned up too high! No need to sue, just ask them nicely to turn the volume down or punch them in the head!
People listening to headphones is not as bad as a worrying trend I've seen on some London buses when groups of kids start playing music through the speakers of their mobile phone (cell). No not ringtones, but full tracks!
It's even worse when those tracks aren't even the real artist but are cover versions like what they sell on boltblue. Yes, people actually pay £3 for a full track song to listen on their mobiles that's not even sung by the original artists! crazy.
Back then I think I'd have agreed with Taco, 5GB storage did not make it worth buying, although UI wise it has probably been the best player around for the vast majority of people.
When the 60GB models first came out I bought one, now they've improved a lot beyond that. The 80GB one is both thinner than my 60GB and plays video, the nanos are excellent for those people where 5GB would be enough. For the average user iTunes is much easier than filesystem drag/drop and a lot better written than most other similar software and for those that want it then you can use it as a USB (or Firewire - mine was one of the last models that supported both) drive.
Now they even created a limited edition version for Windows users that included a FREE virus. All the fun of the IE users Internet without having to pay a pesky subscription.
Walmart's so called moral values for the items they stock vary on a country by country basis to fit their target demographic. Obviously they decide that banning anything slighly offensive is a pointless policy in the UK that will only lower their sales as people will go elsewhere.
80-90's UK TV reference
I won't be around then but I have to say further involvement in EU software policies would make me renew my UKUUG membership. I let mine lapse a few years ago because I never had the time to go to your conferences which at the time was my main reason for being a member.
Also you need to encourage the same from other EU groups you're associated with (e.g. NLUUG)
It is not an alpha of Firefox 3, that has not been released yet. It's just the trunk is listed as version 3.0a1 that'll eventually be 3.0a1 but it is not there yet and won't be for a while
It looks fine on Windows and although the tabs don't look native anymore I actually prefer them. But on the Mac it looks less like a Mac application now than it did before, but that can be corrected by themes.
Still, I'm hoping for better Mac integration in 3.0 than is seen currently not just on the UI front but with spellchecking and password management, Mac OS X has support for both built in and so it'd be better if they used this on a mac rather then their own implementations.
Give it a few weeks, this is a release candidate and hopefully this one will be ready for release. Unlike Microsoft, the Mozilla project usually mean the release candidates can true candidates for release therefore most extension developers can work on testing their extensions against this release knowing that it's unlikely to break in the final.
Last year 1.5 had 3 release candidates and 1.5 final was identical to RC3. So hopefully this year they get it right on the third attempt too.
Anyway, give it a few weeks and your extensions will most likely be working and tested. There's no one forcing you to upgrade and the 1.5 branch will be supported for a while yet.
In the end anyone who puts up TV shows on one of these services is going well beyond fair use but all Google should have to do is pull it down when asked.
However, content providers that don't embrace video services like youtube will end up losing out in the long run. There's a lot of other ways people can get the content, now they've had a taste of what's possible then more and more people would start looking elsewhere (P2P maybe) for their content should it be pulled from Googles servers. So it makes sense for the content providers to stike a deal with Google and get a share of ad revenue rather than drive people to P2P where they get nothing.
It's good to see Google is already striking deals with other companies.
It makes sense as people have had a long time to test their apps against XP SP2 and report bugs to MS. Of course if SP2 breaks anything and you're a paying customer then I can understand why you'd want to stay on SP1 otherwise SP2 offers some advanages.
I think things like WGA are being forced on people whatever version they're running so that's no reason not to upgrade.
When the upgrade is included in the initial purchase cost then this is fine. If they dropped support for XP altogether then that would have been bad but just think of SP2 as an update.
Anyway I hate MS versioning schemes, why service pack why not call it a point release? They also love weird names for their beta software I remember the IE7 beta 2 preview refresh (which was the second pre-release before beta 2)