The cheeseburger comment appeared in another thread, and I used it to exemplify many of the sentiments I see.
I don't have a problem with people with in-demand skills being paid more. I have a problem, though, with people who have those in-demand skills saying 'I worked hard for all this and anyone who isn't part of the club deserves to be left out'.
And so after your hard, hard life, you're arguing for the rich kids who had it easy?
You're arguing that Bill, who grew up spoiled rich, and went to Harvard, is different from Jawad who operates a catering truck only because he 'deserves' it somehow?
How do you know how many Bills, or Perots, or Georges or Forbeses are living dirt poor right now because you are conspiring to keep them that way? And what are you going to do to help them?
Oh get off your 'hard work' horse, mister spent-all-day-posting-to-slashdot.
You really expect us to believe you worked harder today than Louis your garbageman?
If you had REALLY worked hard to get where you are today, then you should be mad as hell at me for having it so easy, and you should be arguing the other side.
What are you afraid of? Is it a job security thing?
Except the article was about blacks. Where are the blacks in Silicon Valley? I work here, and of about 300 employees, we employ two blacks. One as a secretary, and the other as a receptionist.
I'm sure there are a few exceptions here, but I suspect 95%+ of us fall into a very specific category:
* White * Male * Parents owned a home computer * Our primary schools had computer labs
Yes, maybe we were made fun of when we were nerdy little kids, and that sucks.
But really, who can say they really 'work harder' than the average poor person? Look at you. You're spending all day reading usenet and responding to slashdot. You're not working harder than Inez who's going to come by this evening to clean your cubicle or your dorm floor.
Don't give in to selfishness. Help people. You'll enjoy it. I promise.
We can use the Internet to figure out how to help!
A brief search (using Google of course) for terms like names of local underpriveleged communities, 'community', 'internet', 'computer', 'nonprofit', and 'organization' turned up http://www.pluggedin.org/involved/ways.html which is ideal for me! Good luck on finding your own cause!
Right. What the poor people need to do to imporove themselves is get the 'gumption' to go to Harvard Business School.
No, we don't need a world full of programmers.
What we need is a world where you maintain your status by doing good work, not by preventing poor people and their children from having access to the knowledge and education you were priveleged enough to get.
I remember that. Also, reporters were unable to confirm that he was a 'professor' at Stanford. A TA or lecturer seems more likely. Robert X. Cringely is, of course, not his real name, but I forget what the real one is.
All this dissembling, as well as the revelation that Jobs was stingy with the stock options, makes me wonder if my favorite part of TOTN was true. "When I was Apple employee number 12, I helped the company move out of this garage. Steve came out and explained that the company was short on loot, and asked if he could pay us in company shares. But I held out for the money."
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Competition: the effort of two or more parties acting independently to secure the business of a third party by offering the most favorable terms.
I suppose copying the other party's product and giving it away for free is 'competition', but I'm not really sure.
The cheeseburger comment appeared in another thread, and I used it to exemplify many of the sentiments I see.
I don't have a problem with people with in-demand skills being paid more. I have a problem, though, with people who have those in-demand skills saying 'I worked hard for all this and anyone who isn't part of the club deserves to be left out'.
And so after your hard, hard life, you're arguing for the rich kids who had it easy?
You're arguing that Bill, who grew up spoiled rich, and went to Harvard, is different from Jawad who operates a catering truck only because he 'deserves' it somehow?
How do you know how many Bills, or Perots, or Georges or Forbeses are living dirt poor right now because you are conspiring to keep them that way? And what are you going to do to help them?
Oh get off your 'hard work' horse, mister spent-all-day-posting-to-slashdot.
You really expect us to believe you worked harder today than Louis your garbageman?
If you had REALLY worked hard to get where you are today, then you should be mad as hell at me for having it so easy, and you should be arguing the other side.
What are you afraid of? Is it a job security thing?
I think my problem with most of what is being said here is that almost everyone seems to agree on a philosophy of:
"I'm better than other people. People who aren't as good as me deserve to make cheeseburgers for me for the rest of their lives."
It's just shocking.
Except the article was about blacks. Where are the blacks in Silicon Valley? I work here, and of about 300 employees, we employ two blacks. One as a secretary, and the other as a receptionist.
I'm sure there are a few exceptions here, but I suspect 95%+ of us fall into a very specific category:
* White
* Male
* Parents owned a home computer
* Our primary schools had computer labs
Yes, maybe we were made fun of when we were nerdy little kids, and that sucks.
But really, who can say they really 'work harder' than the average poor person? Look at you. You're spending all day reading usenet and responding to slashdot. You're not working harder than Inez who's going to come by this evening to clean your cubicle or your dorm floor.
Don't give in to selfishness. Help people. You'll enjoy it. I promise.
Great!
We can use the Internet to figure out how to help!
A brief search (using Google of course) for terms like names of local underpriveleged communities, 'community', 'internet', 'computer', 'nonprofit', and 'organization' turned up http://www.pluggedin.org/involved/ways.html which is ideal for me! Good luck on finding your own cause!
Right. What the poor people need to do to imporove themselves is get the 'gumption' to go to Harvard Business School.
No, we don't need a world full of programmers.
What we need is a world where you maintain your status by doing good work, not by preventing poor people and their children from having access to the knowledge and education you were priveleged enough to get.
Good call, Anonymous.
t m
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Visit the Urban Legends Reference Pages for more info on this one, folks.
http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/internet.h
This incarnation of the old favorite is detailed near the bottom of the page.
Nothing personal, slashdot, but shame on you!
I remember that. Also, reporters were unable to confirm that he was a 'professor' at Stanford. A TA or lecturer seems more likely. Robert X. Cringely is, of course, not his real name, but I forget what the real one is.
All this dissembling, as well as the revelation that Jobs was stingy with the stock options, makes me wonder if my favorite part of TOTN was true. "When I was Apple employee number 12, I helped the company move out of this garage. Steve came out and explained that the company was short on loot, and asked if he could pay us in company shares. But I held out for the money."
Chris O