HP is supporting Linux because it makes financial sense to do so, just like it makes sense to support Windows NT/2000.
This very question was raised at a meeting with a senior manager when I was an HP employee back in '98. His response, "... as long as we are making $10 billion a year in the Unix market, HP-UX will be around."
I guess I'm biased, having worked for HP before, but I've been doing Unix admin for 10 years on just about every Unix ever made and I prefer HP-UX hands down to any other Unix.
HP-UX is the most fully-featured out of the box Unix there is. Have you even installed Solaris recently? Hmm, no Solstice, no Veritas, no nothing. Might as well be SunOS 4.X, because with Sun, even the basics are extra. With HP-UX, you may pay a bit more, but almost everything you need is right there on the OS install disk.
Let's face it, HP isn't making billions per year in the Unix market by having a sucky Unix. They may not be number one right now, but things can change quickly. Sun better look over their shoulder, because while they spend all their time fighting Microsoft, HP and IBM are gaining ground again.
This is nothing new. I use a similar product every day called CCC Freevision. All of our machines are nicely racked away in a machine room down the hall.
See:
http://www.cccnetsys.com/products-freevision.html
for more information.
- Necron69
My wife, who relies on Hotmail for her Ebay auctions, has had nothing but problems getting mail for the last 36 hours. After vague replies from their tech support, she has switched to Excite.
Unfortunately, business considerations usually win out over OS religion. I've been a Unix sysadmin for ten years and have yet to find a job that didn't require interoperability to a lesser or greater degree with M$ products.
Sorry, but there are no restrictions on 1m satellite imagery taken over the United States. The only such restriction is less than 2m over Israel. Other than that, Space Imaging can take pictures of anything on Earth they want.
While I hate government intervention, this may be a necessary evil here.
I am so sick of reading news articles about the explosion of DSL and cable modems. Despite living in a well developed Denver suburb, I've been on US West's DSL waiting list for almost two years. When it finally became available, they can't install it on MY phone line. Cable modems aren't even available in my area.
Screw AT&T/TCI and US West! I want high speed access now! More competition can only improve things. It couldn't possibly be worse from where I stand.
Too bad the article didn't mention AMROC, the American Rocket Company, that invented hybrid solid rockets years ago. I remember hearing about these back in the late 80's.
To answer your first question, it's very simple. HP makes better chips than Intel, but designing and bringing a new chip architecture to market was getting prohibitively expensive for HP. The partnership was a natural one for both companies.
McKinley is an HP designed rework of the original Merced chip. Intel liked it so much they exercised their rights to it.
Saying that HP "had more influence" on McKinley is an understatement. McKinley IS an HP chip, not an HP/Intel chip.
My wife does auctions on Ebay. While she (of course) uses email for all the communications, she sends all the packages USPS Priority mail. It is still far cheaper than UPS or FedEx for small packages.
This is not to say that the USPS isn't a bloated government bureaucracy that should be split up and auctioned off to the highest bidder.:)
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Uhmmm... How can a hydrogen powered fuel cell (your last two examples) produce CO2 as exhaust? Where's the carbon come from?
- Necron69
Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck....
- Necron69
Spoken like a true Sun bigot.
:)
HP is supporting Linux because it makes financial sense to do so, just like it makes sense to support Windows NT/2000.
This very question was raised at a meeting with a senior manager when I was an HP employee back in '98. His response, "... as long as we are making $10 billion a year in the Unix market, HP-UX will be around."
I guess I'm biased, having worked for HP before, but I've been doing Unix admin for 10 years on just about every Unix ever made and I prefer HP-UX hands down to any other Unix.
HP-UX is the most fully-featured out of the box Unix there is. Have you even installed Solaris recently? Hmm, no Solstice, no Veritas, no nothing. Might as well be SunOS 4.X, because with Sun, even the basics are extra. With HP-UX, you may pay a bit more, but almost everything you need is right there on the OS install disk.
Let's face it, HP isn't making billions per year in the Unix market by having a sucky Unix. They may not be number one right now, but things can change quickly. Sun better look over their shoulder, because while they spend all their time fighting Microsoft, HP and IBM are gaining ground again.
All IMHO, of course.
- Necron69
This is nothing new. I use a similar product every day called CCC Freevision. All of our machines are nicely racked away in a machine room down the hall. See: http://www.cccnetsys.com/products-freevision.html for more information. - Necron69
I've seen keyboards like this since '94 when I worked at Hewlett Packard.
There is nothing whatsoever new about this keyboard. Lame article.
- Necron69
Come to think of it, I once wrote a perl script to index the gopher site at CU Boulder (remember 'CULine' alums?) when I was a student there.
Oh my God, I've violated a patent!
Bwaahahahahahah!
- Necron69
I couldn't agree more. Netscape 6 crashed or hung a dozen times in the first ten minutes I used it on RH 7.0.
Back to Konqueror.
- Necron69
That's funny, Hewlett Packard owns network 15. Or they did before the Agilent spinoff, anyway.
Do you have any references to back up your claim that "no one" owns class A addresses anymore?
- Necron69
Just as an example, some joker cracked my dial-up Linux box, back in May when I had uswest.net. (They apparently exploited a bug in rpc.statd).
The bad guys WILL find you, DHCP means nothing in terms of security. Buy or build a firewall, or you WILL be sorry.
- Necron69
My wife, who relies on Hotmail for her Ebay auctions, has had nothing but problems getting mail for the last 36 hours. After vague replies from their tech support, she has switched to Excite.
Go Microsoft, go.
- Necron69
Not to be picky, but the Challenge XL is a server box, no audio, no video. It probably has a VT terminal for a console.
Although outdated, the Challenge XL is a still a workhorse at my job. We have a couple dozen of them.
I'd be more concerned about support. The CoOp Care support contract (parts, phone support, no on-site) will cost you > $20k year.
Necron69
Unfortunately, business considerations usually win out over OS religion. I've been a Unix sysadmin for ten years and have yet to find a job that didn't require interoperability to a lesser or greater degree with M$ products.
If you find such a job, please let me know.
- Necron69
Sorry, but there are no restrictions on 1m satellite imagery taken over the United States. The only such restriction is less than 2m over Israel. Other than that, Space Imaging can take pictures of anything on Earth they want.
- Necron69
While I hate government intervention, this may be a necessary evil here.
I am so sick of reading news articles about the explosion of DSL and cable modems. Despite living in a well developed Denver suburb, I've been on US West's DSL waiting list for almost two years. When it finally became available, they can't install it on MY phone line. Cable modems aren't even available in my area.
Screw AT&T/TCI and US West! I want high speed access now! More competition can only improve things. It couldn't possibly be worse from where I stand.
- Necron69
While I can't speak for the bosses, there are Slashdot readers at Space Imaging.
We are you.
Keep up the posts. I died laughing over a lot of these last April.
Necron69 - J. Scott Farrow
Unix Systems Administrator
sfarrow@spaceimaging.com
You are right about IKONOS-1.
:)
Meanwhile, the optimistic ones here at Space Imaging are hoping for a successful launch of IKONOS-2, so we still have jobs.
Vandenberg's home page has a launch schedule link (although it seems to be down at the moment): http://www.vafb.af.mil/index.html
Incidentally, there is no official or otherwise announced date for the launch of IKONOS-2 yet. When there is, you can find it at www.spaceimaging.com.
- Necron69
jsfarrow@hotmail.com
sfarrow@spaceimaging.com
Too bad the article didn't mention AMROC, the American Rocket Company, that invented hybrid solid rockets years ago. I remember hearing about these back in the late 80's.
- Necron69
To answer your first question, it's very simple. HP makes better chips than Intel, but designing and bringing a new chip architecture to market was getting prohibitively expensive for HP. The partnership was a natural one for both companies.
McKinley is an HP designed rework of the original Merced chip. Intel liked it so much they exercised their rights to it.
Saying that HP "had more influence" on McKinley is an understatement. McKinley IS an HP chip, not an HP/Intel chip.
- Necron69
I have to agree with that.
:)
My wife does auctions on Ebay. While she (of course) uses email for all the communications, she sends all the packages USPS Priority mail. It is still far cheaper than UPS or FedEx for small packages.
This is not to say that the USPS isn't a bloated government bureaucracy that should be split up and auctioned off to the highest bidder.
- Necron