thats nice..but are you aware most government projects dont release the source AT ALL ?? be greatful that some research has taken the effort to GPL the source. most DARPA funded code (99%) and most NSF funded code (80-90%) cant be obtained AT ALL much less under public domain or GPL. there is NO requirement in the grants to release the code..just to publish the findings to the funding agency or reputable journal which costs $$$ to read.
be greatful youre getting anything from the researchers and stop whining about the license.
its a data format to output to -- kinda like an XML tree with data populated into it that SNMP management devices can use to gather info on the device being queried. well..thats the easy explanation anyway.
for the poster -- i know what youre trying to do -- ive dont it myself and its a bitch. took me two weeks.:)
good luck..i havent found any tools to do this and you need to do it manually from my experience...read the RFC and crunch on it.
huh ? apache + ssl + certs takes around a day to set up on linux last time i tried. maybe its your software but for the most part its fairly trivial to get cert authentication working with apache+mod_ssl on ALL browsers.
sea are usually the seamonkey builds from stable source. the rest are developer only daily checkouts. embed* versions are for embedding the moz engine into GTK and sometimes you get talkback enabled versions which allow the talkback code to run and report crashes automatically. there are also psm releases with the personal security manager enabled but those have become the default and they dropped *psm and *talkback.
if you want stable use seamonkey *sea
if you want unstable use the daily checkouts.
gcc 2.9.5 is unstable gcc and gcc 2.7* or 2.8* i think was stable gcc which most stable versions are compiled with.
hope this helps..
15 E10000's for SALVAGE ? please please can i have some ? i'll take them ALL off your hands. simply reselling 2 of the CPUs from ONE of those beasts will more than cover any salvage costs.
micro$oft FUD is irrelevant. have you noticed that the free software community can match it with the best of them ?
i hope vidomi is forced to release their software source -- that would make the GPL bulletproof with a real precendent.
so you dont mind anyone taking your code without giving you anything for it ? sorry..not all of us share your opinion and since we wrote the code we license, we have a right to stop a company from doing exactly that... just as you have a right to do anything you like with the code you wrote... even giving it to M$ for use in their products..
yup..its a secureid hardware card. made by the ex RSA patent holders at RSA : http://rsa.com/products/securid/index.html
bitch to set up but it works great specially with kerberos...and it works with unixes and mainframes too. had an old universe mainframe install running it once.
im not too bothered about getting modded down -- i rarely stay below 48. any anyway, if they mod me down they're probably reading my post (hopefully..) which is the whole point of posting. he should give up the domain and shouldnt have renewed it (what exactly was the point of THAT?) its the same situation as the guy who holds openssh.org hostage -- i may be modded down for it but i still can call an idiot an idiot when i see one.:)
eventually it'll come to that..hopefully. trying to get huge amounts of toolkit/library/framework code into the core language specification is one way to do that -- just look at java with its gigantic java.* core and javax.* optional libraries...30+megs worth just for the compiler + libraries. its a bloody pain to reinvent framework stuff for each project and thats hopefully the one thing which gets reduced in the future.
of course java did all that and proceeded to completely do away with bit level manipulation (bitset doesnt count...sorry) which causes a gigantic pain since you have to write bit manipulation stuff which should be part of the core like C does. of course i came from a C/assembly background into java so i may be looking at it from a low level point of view but i'd really like to see all the base stuff already present in a language before i use it along with all the high level stuff.
what youre missing is that above.net and some other backbone providers configured their cisco routers to read from the MAPS RBL list to block ALL packets flowing from hosts listed in there. someone should bash above.net's head in for doing this with a class action lawsuit.
*shrug* as far as i saw the AMD chip kicked the P4 Xeons arse with room to spare on a 1 to 1 match.
the dual CPU benchmarks showed negligible performance gains for every test except multimedia. the P4 also got kicked hard on Floating point (huh? 2 intel CPUs cant keep up with 1 AMD running at half the speed with 1/4 the cache? wtf?).
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no you anonymous dumbass. its not the URGENT field. its bits 8 thru 16 of the IP packet -- the TOS. and its not part of TCP either...maybe you should reread whatever crap reference you gave me.
i quote from RFC 791 : Internet Protocol :
Type of Service: 8 bits
The Type of Service provides an indication of the abstract parameters of the quality of service desired. These parameters are to be usedto guide the selection of the actual service parameters when transmitting a datagram through a particular network. Several networks offer service precedence, which somehow treats high precedence traffic as more important than other traffic (generally by accepting only traffic above a certain precedence at time of high load). The major choice is a three way tradeoff between low-delay,high-reliability, and high-throughput.
uuh..how would they know he was writing code ?
he could be web browsing remotely or reading usenet/email..
if they dont know youre writing code, the code is yours unless they can prove it.
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blah. its already taken place before. the TCP/IP packet has a flag for high priority traffic. that lasted for a few days before everyone figured out the flag and now ALL traffic has the flag set for high priority. superswitches wont do shit -- everyone will just mark their data as high priority as before and life will go on.
it doesnt matter how you design stuff...if you dont have time to implement it properly your commercial software will suck. it doesnt matter if you have roadmaps documentation, bug lists or any other crap. your time to implementation will govern how your final output works.
unfortunately very few commercial vendors have either the time or inclination to let their software teams work at the optimum pace -- 7 lines of code or less per day. thats the speed which mission critical systems (think space shuttle control code or aircraft control code) are written at. and dont tell me that youre willing to let your programmers code only 7 lines of code per day.
if you havent seen the average large companies systems then you might be in for a surprise. check out http://www.rackspace.com/complex/complex_configura tions.php under the advanced configuration -- that type is routinely used for low end company websites with some database backends.
For webservers check out : http://www.rackspace.com/dedicated/recommended/ser ver_sun.php
under the enterprise section. this is the average sort of website i deal with routinely. note that rackspace tends to skimp on redundancy...usually you see more redundant servers on most large company websites.
*sigh* i agree about the root exploits part but youre simply trolling for the BSDs which is silly IMHO.
any normal (read not yours) company will have at least dual or quad CPU hardware running in a cluster for their webservers..in most cases this may be outsourced or hosted at exodus or other NOCs. OpenBSD can support only 1 CPU at this time so that blows it out the water. FreeBSD is in a niche (not may admins can use it -- companies hire from the mass market so the skillset is definitely limiting fbsds existance) and doesnt scale properly as far as CPUs go (yes i know about the fbsd 5 improvements -- it aint here yet and still has the giant kernel lock).
Linux is gaining more and more since the availability of admins is there and its easy to set up (even if crackability exists) and is familiar enough with apache. it also scales well now with the 2.4 kernel and supports a lot of rackmount hardware at datacenters.
Solaris is usually what you find with netscape iplanet or apache at most companies..it scales well but costs an arm and a leg.
NT/IIS is another alternative for those cheapo firms who cant afford to hire admins to run UNIX.
i dunno if one persons case applies to anyone else but in my case i used to work as a developer (closed source) but i found i liked to write open source software more so i moved to sysadmin and SE work...lots more free time to write open source software and travel as well.
i suspect most open source coders are working as sysadmins/web development/SE's or consultants where you get lotsa free time. in universities and schools of course you get lotsa free time too.
thats one reason i was pushing for a non profit trust fund which would run sourceforge and its servers. slashdot doesnt have anything to worry about since its creators have the necessary personal funds to run it should VA go bust.
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thats nice..but are you aware most government projects dont release the source AT ALL ?? be greatful that some research has taken the effort to GPL the source. most DARPA funded code (99%) and most NSF funded code (80-90%) cant be obtained AT ALL much less under public domain or GPL. there is NO requirement in the grants to release the code ..just to publish the findings to the funding agency or reputable journal which costs $$$ to read.
be greatful youre getting anything from the researchers and stop whining about the license.
its a data format to output to -- kinda like an XML tree with data populated into it that SNMP management devices can use to gather info on the device being queried. well..thats the easy explanation anyway. :)
for the poster -- i know what youre trying to do -- ive dont it myself and its a bitch. took me two weeks.
good luck..i havent found any tools to do this and you need to do it manually from my experience...read the RFC and crunch on it.
huh ? apache + ssl + certs takes around a day to set up on linux last time i tried. maybe its your software but for the most part its fairly trivial to get cert authentication working with apache+mod_ssl on ALL browsers.
sea are usually the seamonkey builds from stable source. the rest are developer only daily checkouts. embed* versions are for embedding the moz engine into GTK and sometimes you get talkback enabled versions which allow the talkback code to run and report crashes automatically. there are also psm releases with the personal security manager enabled but those have become the default and they dropped *psm and *talkback.
if you want stable use seamonkey *sea
if you want unstable use the daily checkouts.
gcc 2.9.5 is unstable gcc and gcc 2.7* or 2.8* i think was stable gcc which most stable versions are compiled with.
hope this helps..
15 E10000's for SALVAGE ? please please can i have some ? i'll take them ALL off your hands. simply reselling 2 of the CPUs from ONE of those beasts will more than cover any salvage costs.
no...but that would be nice.
a better analogy is the car wouldnt have its hood welded shut AND its plans and drawings locked away.
micro$oft FUD is irrelevant. have you noticed that the free software community can match it with the best of them ?
i hope vidomi is forced to release their software source -- that would make the GPL bulletproof with a real precendent.
so you dont mind anyone taking your code without giving you anything for it ? sorry..not all of us share your opinion and since we wrote the code we license, we have a right to stop a company from doing exactly that... just as you have a right to do anything you like with the code you wrote... even giving it to M$ for use in their products..
yup..its a secureid hardware card. made by the ex RSA patent holders at RSA : http://rsa.com/products/securid/index.html
bitch to set up but it works great specially with kerberos...and it works with unixes and mainframes too. had an old universe mainframe install running it once.
they make it available thru a link in the about box on the client. see this post : http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/05/22/15342 47&cid=78
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/05/22/15342 47&cid=78
real men gargle with pepsi.
im not too bothered about getting modded down -- i rarely stay below 48. any anyway, if they mod me down they're probably reading my post (hopefully..) which is the whole point of posting. he should give up the domain and shouldnt have renewed it (what exactly was the point of THAT?) its the same situation as the guy who holds openssh.org hostage -- i may be modded down for it but i still can call an idiot an idiot when i see one. :)
eventually it'll come to that..hopefully. trying to get huge amounts of toolkit/library/framework code into the core language specification is one way to do that -- just look at java with its gigantic java.* core and javax.* optional libraries...30+megs worth just for the compiler + libraries. its a bloody pain to reinvent framework stuff for each project and thats hopefully the one thing which gets reduced in the future.
of course java did all that and proceeded to completely do away with bit level manipulation (bitset doesnt count...sorry) which causes a gigantic pain since you have to write bit manipulation stuff which should be part of the core like C does. of course i came from a C/assembly background into java so i may be looking at it from a low level point of view but i'd really like to see all the base stuff already present in a language before i use it along with all the high level stuff.
what youre missing is that above.net and some other backbone providers configured their cisco routers to read from the MAPS RBL list to block ALL packets flowing from hosts listed in there. someone should bash above.net's head in for doing this with a class action lawsuit.
*shrug* as far as i saw the AMD chip kicked the P4 Xeons arse with room to spare on a 1 to 1 match.
the dual CPU benchmarks showed negligible performance gains for every test except multimedia. the P4 also got kicked hard on Floating point (huh? 2 intel CPUs cant keep up with 1 AMD running at half the speed with 1/4 the cache? wtf?).
no you anonymous dumbass. its not the URGENT field. its bits 8 thru 16 of the IP packet -- the TOS. and its not part of TCP either...maybe you should reread whatever crap reference you gave me.
i quote from RFC 791 : Internet Protocol :
Type of Service: 8 bits
The Type of Service provides an indication of the abstract parameters of the quality of service desired. These parameters are to be usedto guide the selection of the actual service parameters when transmitting a datagram through a particular network. Several networks offer service precedence, which somehow treats high precedence traffic as more important than other traffic (generally by accepting only traffic above a certain precedence at time of high load). The major choice is a three way tradeoff between low-delay,high-reliability, and high-throughput.
111 - Network Control
011 - Flash
110 - Internetwork Control
010 - Immediate
101 - CRITIC/ECP
001 - Priority
100 - Flash Override
000 - Routine
uuh..how would they know he was writing code ?
he could be web browsing remotely or reading usenet/email..
if they dont know youre writing code, the code is yours unless they can prove it.
blah. its already taken place before. the TCP/IP packet has a flag for high priority traffic. that lasted for a few days before everyone figured out the flag and now ALL traffic has the flag set for high priority. superswitches wont do shit -- everyone will just mark their data as high priority as before and life will go on.
why dont you ssh into a remote machine and write code ? put your laptop on the network from home and ssh into it.
wheres the time to market ?
it doesnt matter how you design stuff...if you dont have time to implement it properly your commercial software will suck. it doesnt matter if you have roadmaps documentation, bug lists or any other crap. your time to implementation will govern how your final output works.
unfortunately very few commercial vendors have either the time or inclination to let their software teams work at the optimum pace -- 7 lines of code or less per day. thats the speed which mission critical systems (think space shuttle control code or aircraft control code) are written at. and dont tell me that youre willing to let your programmers code only 7 lines of code per day.
if you havent seen the average large companies systems then you might be in for a surprise. check out http://www.rackspace.com/complex/complex_configura tions.php under the advanced configuration -- that type is routinely used for low end company websites with some database backends.
r ver_sun.php
For webservers check out : http://www.rackspace.com/dedicated/recommended/se
under the enterprise section. this is the average sort of website i deal with routinely. note that rackspace tends to skimp on redundancy...usually you see more redundant servers on most large company websites.
*sigh* i agree about the root exploits part but youre simply trolling for the BSDs which is silly IMHO.
any normal (read not yours) company will have at least dual or quad CPU hardware running in a cluster for their webservers..in most cases this may be outsourced or hosted at exodus or other NOCs. OpenBSD can support only 1 CPU at this time so that blows it out the water. FreeBSD is in a niche (not may admins can use it -- companies hire from the mass market so the skillset is definitely limiting fbsds existance) and doesnt scale properly as far as CPUs go (yes i know about the fbsd 5 improvements -- it aint here yet and still has the giant kernel lock).
Linux is gaining more and more since the availability of admins is there and its easy to set up (even if crackability exists) and is familiar enough with apache. it also scales well now with the 2.4 kernel and supports a lot of rackmount hardware at datacenters.
Solaris is usually what you find with netscape iplanet or apache at most companies..it scales well but costs an arm and a leg.
NT/IIS is another alternative for those cheapo firms who cant afford to hire admins to run UNIX.
i dunno if one persons case applies to anyone else but in my case i used to work as a developer (closed source) but i found i liked to write open source software more so i moved to sysadmin and SE work...lots more free time to write open source software and travel as well.
i suspect most open source coders are working as sysadmins/web development/SE's or consultants where you get lotsa free time. in universities and schools of course you get lotsa free time too.
thats one reason i was pushing for a non profit trust fund which would run sourceforge and its servers. slashdot doesnt have anything to worry about since its creators have the necessary personal funds to run it should VA go bust.