For clarification, the browser mentioned is Opera, which was just released (in beta). I haven't tried it yet, but I'm sure the beta is far better than Netscape 4. However, we're coming up on having three viable browsers: Opera, Mozilla, and Konqueror. We'll have the Windows guys matched exactly.
If you mean Godel's theorem, I don't think we can extend maths that far. But it works, so if you like to be able to explain everything, you'll have to have some metaphysical explanation.
Well, to satisfy curiosity, he's saying, "Hej, det här är Linus Torvalds, och jag uttala Linux, 'Linux'." Which means, "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux, 'Linux"." In english.au, he says, "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as 'Linux'." That's what I get out of both. I certainly don't hear 'hom' between 'Linux' and his pronunciation in swedish.au, but I'm pretty sure 'as' is in english.au.
Hey, don't call names, moron! There are two official languages of Finland, Finnish and Swedish. It's just like in Canada, only different. I doubt there's a separation issue in Finland, nevertheless, Linus is the Finnish equivalent of a Canadian Francophone.
Let's be fair. You don't agree with their way of dealing with a riot, fine. You believe NATO's brainwashing, fine. You want to bash a country over something the West has done for thousands of years, fine. But we're off all that now. So quit yer trolling and accept that what's going to happen is going to happen. We may have to do some PR dancing, but it's all for freedom. Freedom to let even Nero praise Linux.
*Un*fortunately? Are you mad? Now look, I don't see how preventing anyone from using something is quite appropriate from a League of Programming *Freedom*. Come on, let's face it, Community Effort would appeal to a Communist party seeking brownie points for their ideals. Now if their ideals are only for power at heart, are backed up by military oppression and slaughter, well so be it. By Jove, I don't even give a bloody damn what their ideals are or are supposed to be. This is about freedom, folks, we're not about to make a joke out of it by inserting some damn fool idealistic arrogant judgment call.
Well, Slack has done this as far back as I can remember (I think) and that's 2.2 -- I dunno what all the Big Whoop (TM) is about. I loved Slackware and that's how I got used to it. Only problem I ever had was that it was too slow that way. A novice, I suppose, might have difficulties. I didn't realize there had been novice umsdos distros before, though.
I'll second that. Slack was my first Linux. I liked the install, but gave up when I couldn't get the kernel to work properly. I shelved it for a couple months. It was only after a lucky guess that I got it to work, and now I feel silly because I'd just installed the wrong kernel. I needed SCSI, somehow I'd installed the IDE kernel. Which goes to show that Slackware doesn't make everything obvious. But it was worth it. I'd never learned so much from or had so much fun with a piece of software. I either didn't realize I could or was too lazy to do all the work to (probably the latter) upgrade to ELF, so I picked up Slackware 3.3. Then 3.2, cause the 3.3 was from Linuxmall and wasn't official. (I wanted the archive CDs...). And then I heard about SuSE and I thought, gee, maybe wussy distributions aren't so bad after all. Turned out they were. Hated it. Went back to Slack. Tried SuSE again later. Still hated it. Went back to Slack. Third time was a charm though, and I've been running SuSE pretty much ever since. Nevertheless, I've never had experience with a distribution working perfectly on install (except Slackware of course) or at least some things weren't immediately obvious. I know what I'm doing, though, and it's because of Slackware. OK, I may not use ed. And to be honest, I never even took the time out to figure out sed. Or even perl (although I've tried... I just never took ENOUGH time out...). And I never really needed to use complicated regular expressions with grep, so I use regexps inexpertly. I'm not a vi expert, though it's still my favourite editor. And I never even tried hacking my kernel. Nevertheless, I thank Slackware for what I do know. I wouldn't know half of what I do now if I hadn't turned my nose down at RedHat. I'd heard it was easy to install, and popular. So naturally it wasn't even an option.:-) Praise Slackware.
rtfGPL. However, almost all distributions include some commercial software -- Caldera includes a licensed version of Partition Magic, which could be trouble.
I'm not sure I understand what the big deal is -- that is, why the hostility? When I read this article, my jaw dropped. "It's really going to happen," I thought. "People all over the place are going to be opening their eyes." Is there a problem with that? Linux installation has never been hard, but now, all the guesswork is taken out for new users. And I don't think flexibility is much of an issue. I'd have to actually use this distribution to really know, but I doubt that the ld.so thing is going to cause a lot of problems. Someone raised on this system will know how to do this stuff. I think it all depends on how much the user likes computers -- if it's a lot, they'll catch on, and in a few years, we'll have a new crop of experts; if it's not a lot, they simply get more stability and satisfaction and we get world domination...
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For clarification, the browser mentioned is Opera, which was just released (in beta). I haven't tried it yet, but I'm sure the beta is far better than Netscape 4. However, we're coming up on having three viable browsers: Opera, Mozilla, and Konqueror. We'll have the Windows guys matched exactly.
If you mean Godel's theorem, I don't think we can extend maths that far. But it works, so if you like to be able to explain everything, you'll have to have some metaphysical explanation.
Did anyone try searching for "Binks"? I got 2 results, "charge are binks" and "charge or binks".
Well, to satisfy curiosity, he's saying, "Hej, det här är Linus Torvalds, och jag uttala Linux, 'Linux'." Which means, "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux, 'Linux"." In english.au, he says, "Hello, this is Linus Torvalds, and I pronounce Linux as 'Linux'." That's what I get out of both. I certainly don't hear 'hom' between 'Linux' and his pronunciation in swedish.au, but I'm pretty sure 'as' is in english.au.
Hey, don't call names, moron! There are two official languages of Finland, Finnish and Swedish. It's just like in Canada, only different. I doubt there's a separation issue in Finland, nevertheless, Linus is the Finnish equivalent of a Canadian Francophone.
Let's be fair. You don't agree with their way of dealing with a riot, fine. You believe NATO's brainwashing, fine. You want to bash a country over something the West has done for thousands of years, fine. But we're off all that now. So quit yer trolling and accept that what's going to happen is going to happen. We may have to do some PR dancing, but it's all for freedom. Freedom to let even Nero praise Linux.
*Un*fortunately? Are you mad? Now look, I don't see how preventing anyone from using something is quite appropriate from a League of Programming *Freedom*. Come on, let's face it, Community Effort would appeal to a Communist party seeking brownie points for their ideals. Now if their ideals are only for power at heart, are backed up by military oppression and slaughter, well so be it. By Jove, I don't even give a bloody damn what their ideals are or are supposed to be. This is about freedom, folks, we're not about to make a joke out of it by inserting some damn fool idealistic arrogant judgment call.
Well, Slack has done this as far back as I can remember (I think) and that's 2.2 -- I dunno what all the Big Whoop (TM) is about. I loved Slackware and that's how I got used to it. Only problem I ever had was that it was too slow that way. A novice, I suppose, might have difficulties. I didn't realize there had been novice umsdos distros before, though.
I'll second that. Slack was my first Linux. I liked the install, but gave up when I couldn't get the kernel to work properly. I shelved it for a couple months. It was only after a lucky guess that I got it to work, and now I feel silly because I'd just installed the wrong kernel. I needed SCSI, somehow I'd installed the IDE kernel. Which goes to show that Slackware doesn't make everything obvious. But it was worth it. I'd never learned so much from or had so much fun with a piece of software. I either didn't realize I could or was too lazy to do all the work to (probably the latter) upgrade to ELF, so I picked up Slackware 3.3. Then 3.2, cause the 3.3 was from Linuxmall and wasn't official. (I wanted the archive CDs...). And then I heard about SuSE and I thought, gee, maybe wussy distributions aren't so bad after all. Turned out they were. Hated it. Went back to Slack. Tried SuSE again later. Still hated it. Went back to Slack. Third time was a charm though, and I've been running SuSE pretty much ever since. Nevertheless, I've never had experience with a distribution working perfectly on install (except Slackware of course) or at least some things weren't immediately obvious. I know what I'm doing, though, and it's because of Slackware. OK, I may not use ed. And to be honest, I never even took the time out to figure out sed. Or even perl (although I've tried... I just never took ENOUGH time out...). And I never really needed to use complicated regular expressions with grep, so I use regexps inexpertly. I'm not a vi expert, though it's still my favourite editor. And I never even tried hacking my kernel. Nevertheless, I thank Slackware for what I do know. I wouldn't know half of what I do now if I hadn't turned my nose down at RedHat. I'd heard it was easy to install, and popular. So naturally it wasn't even an option. :-) Praise Slackware.
rtfGPL. However, almost all distributions include some commercial software -- Caldera includes a licensed version of Partition Magic, which could be trouble.
I'm not sure I understand what the big deal is -- that is, why the hostility? When I read this article, my jaw dropped. "It's really going to happen," I thought. "People all over the place are going to be opening their eyes." Is there a problem with that? Linux installation has never been hard, but now, all the guesswork is taken out for new users. And I don't think flexibility is much of an issue. I'd have to actually use this distribution to really know, but I doubt that the ld.so thing is going to cause a lot of problems. Someone raised on this system will know how to do this stuff. I think it all depends on how much the user likes computers -- if it's a lot, they'll catch on, and in a few years, we'll have a new crop of experts; if it's not a lot, they simply get more stability and satisfaction and we get world domination...