You can add the patented algorithms to OpenSSH just by installing the right shared libs, it's a personnal decision and not the default because of CDs distribution. (and because patents sucks)
Second:
ssh always included non-patented algorithms like triple-DES.
All the *BSDs see their userbase growing... (see new specific websites, traffic on newsgroups and mailing lists, download statistics, CD sales statistics...)
With a securelevel of two (or even 1) you cannot read a module after the boot phase.
With a securelevel of two the kernel cannot be altered and even root cannot fiddle with disks and memory devices. Your are pretty sure your kernel is yours unless the machine is rebooted, but you could notice that. (Why the hell have I been disconnected ?)
If they GPL it they'll have to GPL all derivative work, including all the work they did improving it for Irix. That's exactly for this reason that Netscape didn't used GPL, they had other products using the same code and didn't want to opensource them.
Sorry but there is GPL in *BSD kernel, actually the same FPU emulation than Linux can be used in OpenBSD's kernel (I'm not 100% sure but I think that it's an available option for FreeBSD too).
The only restriction is that the system must be able to run without GPLed code. In the previous example a BSD licenced emulator is an option (and it sucks compared to the GPLed one), and most people don't use a FPU emulator at all since they have a FPU.
Please don't spread FUD. Even a GPLed XFS will be usable in the BSDs.
The GNU Public License and licenses modeled on it impose the restriction that source code must be distributed or made available for all works that are derivatives of the GNU copyrighted code.
While this may be a noble strategy in terms of software sharing, it is a condition that is typically unacceptable for commercial use of software. As a consequence, software bound by the GPL terms can not be included in the kernel or "runtime" of OpenBSD, though software subject to GPL terms may be included as development tools or as part of the system that are "optional" as long as such use does not result in OpenBSD as a whole becoming subject to the GPL terms.
As an example, some ports include GNU Floating Point Emulation - this is optional and the system can be built without it or with an alternative emulation package. Another example is the use of GCC and other GNU tools in the OpenBSD tool chain - it is quite possible to distribute a system for many applications without a tool chain, or the distributor can choose to include a tool chain as an optional bundle which conforms to the GPL terms.
So a GPL part only have to be optional, XFS qualify.
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We must understand that most original BSD code was developed under government grants, so payed by the American tax payers (both citizens and corporations). It was natural that the people and corporations who paid for it not being charged money for it. Obviously (it was a time where even the idea of free software was just emerging) corporations would not be interrested if they could not make proprietary changes. So a BSD like licence was an obvious choice in this time.
And it helped the spreading of things such as TCP/IP enormously, all Unix makers jumped on this IP stack, it was an excellent starter for them.
Without that, and other BSD covered code like BIND, the Internet development would have been much slower.
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Every one can email a patch to the dev team as you can do with Linux, and it will be accepted or rejected on a technical basis. If you submit too much good stuff you'll get a CVS account to not annoy others developers anymore.
I guess that Linus does not check Alan Cox patches anymore as well:-))
Anyone knows if Linus run a CVS server to manage the stuff ?
That's a feature, not a bug
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So you can install it on your laptop while waiting for the movie.
There is a lot of controversy about how human-level machine intelligence will develop. Some scientists believe it will follow a path similar to the one followed in nature by evolution: there will be artificial one-celled animals, artificial insects, artificial lawyers, artificial monkeys, and so on up to artificial human-level machine minds.
Actually the concept of NFS over TCP vas invented for BSD4.4 and then adopted by Sun. They added the 64 bits stuff and a few others things and it gaves NFSv3.
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If you mount any *BSD ffs partition async you'll have about the same level of performance as ext2fs, but also the same level of security. If you use softupdates you'll be just a little slower and it'll still be crash resistant.
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Yeah XEmacs devs will be happy that linuxcare considers their project dead...
And the gcc story is almost revisionism, gcc died because nobody was maintaining it and facing the corpse RMS had to do something.
The author also missed the point that very often one of the two projects have to die...
Is that avoiding forking ? :-))
BTW I definitly find that forking is more a personnality issue than a licence issue.
First :
You can add the patented algorithms to OpenSSH just by installing the right shared libs, it's a personnal decision and not the default because of CDs distribution. (and because patents sucks)
Second :
ssh always included non-patented algorithms like triple-DES.
www.OpenBSD.ORG is really under Solaris.
% nslookup www.openbsd.org
Server: s1.iway.fr
Address: 194.98.0.1
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.openbsd.org
Address: 129.128.5.191
% nslookup 129.128.5.191
Server: s1.iway.fr
Address: 194.98.0.1
Name: openbsd.sunsite.ualberta.ca
Address: 129.128.5.191
Sun free hardware has a price, you have to run Solaris...
No...
All the *BSDs see their userbase growing... (see new specific websites, traffic on newsgroups and mailing lists, download statistics, CD sales statistics...)
The fact is that the market is expanding...
I usually ssh at my server, don't sit at them...
You'll never have enough function key to have the needed number or virtual console to have real work done thought...
X or die...
I wonder why someone would like to download a 650 Mbyte file while all the required files for a given platform are only about 200 MByte.
And there is everything on the FTP site needed to burn your own bootable CDs...
I wonder why people still use the console too. All my machines have xdm, it's almost the 21th century guys (ans gals :-))
Sendmail marketshare is greatest than {Apache,Linux,NT,PalmOS,BeOS,AmigaOS,...}.
All things that got new version posted on /.
Only BIND is more important to the Net than sendmail.
With a securelevel of two (or even 1) you cannot read a module after the boot phase.
With a securelevel of two the kernel cannot be altered and even root cannot fiddle with disks and memory devices. Your are pretty sure your kernel is yours unless the machine is rebooted, but you could notice that. (Why the hell have I been disconnected ?)
If they GPL it they'll have to GPL all derivative work, including all the work they did improving it for Irix. That's exactly for this reason that Netscape didn't used GPL, they had other products using the same code and didn't want to opensource them.
Sorry but there is GPL in *BSD kernel, actually the same FPU emulation than Linux can be used in OpenBSD's kernel (I'm not 100% sure but I think that it's an available option for FreeBSD too).
The only restriction is that the system must be able to run without GPLed code. In the previous example a BSD licenced emulator is an option (and it sucks compared to the GPLed one), and most people don't use a FPU emulator at all since they have a FPU.
Please don't spread FUD. Even a GPLed XFS will be usable in the BSDs.
All the BSDs ship with plenty of GPLed code, as well as all Linux distibutions ship with plenty of BSD code, get real.
The various BSD generally only require that the GPLed code not to be necessary to have a running system, eg the kernel scheduler couldn't be GPLed.
Excerpt from http://www.OpenBSD.ORG/policy.html
The GNU Public License and licenses modeled on it impose the restriction that source code must be distributed or made available for all works that are derivatives of the GNU copyrighted code.
While this may be a noble strategy in terms of software sharing, it is a condition that is typically unacceptable for commercial use of software. As a consequence, software bound by the GPL terms can not be included in the kernel or "runtime" of OpenBSD, though software subject to GPL terms may be included as development tools or as part of the system that are "optional" as long as such use does not result in OpenBSD as a whole becoming subject to the GPL terms.
As an example, some ports include GNU Floating Point Emulation - this is optional and the system can be built without it or with an alternative emulation package. Another example is the use of GCC and other GNU tools in the OpenBSD tool chain - it is quite possible to distribute a system for many applications without a tool chain, or the distributor can choose to include a tool chain as an optional bundle which conforms to the GPL terms.
So a GPL part only have to be optional, XFS qualify.
We must understand that most original BSD code was developed under government grants, so payed by the American tax payers (both citizens and corporations). It was natural that the people and corporations who paid for it not being charged money for it. Obviously (it was a time where even the idea of free software was just emerging) corporations would not be interrested if they could not make proprietary changes. So a BSD like licence was an obvious choice in this time.
And it helped the spreading of things such as TCP/IP enormously, all Unix makers jumped on this IP stack, it was an excellent starter for them.
Without that, and other BSD covered code like BIND, the Internet development would have been much slower.
Every one can email a patch to the dev team as you can do with Linux, and it will be accepted or rejected on a technical basis. If you submit too much good stuff you'll get a CVS account to not annoy others developers anymore.
:-))
I guess that Linus does not check Alan Cox patches anymore as well
Anyone knows if Linus run a CVS server to manage the stuff ?
So you can install it on your laptop while waiting for the movie.
From http://www.cyc.com/halslegacy.html :
There is a lot of controversy about how human-level machine intelligence will develop. Some scientists believe it will follow a path similar to the one followed in nature by evolution: there will be artificial one-celled animals, artificial insects, artificial lawyers, artificial monkeys, and so on up to artificial human-level machine minds.
Actually the concept of NFS over TCP vas invented for BSD4.4 and then adopted by Sun. They added the 64 bits stuff and a few others things and it gaves NFSv3.
If you mount any *BSD ffs partition async you'll have about the same level of performance as ext2fs, but also the same level of security. If you use softupdates you'll be just a little slower and it'll still be crash resistant.
I'm pretty sure that Solaris can use a journalized
filesystem, as well as logical volume etc...
The only question is why the standard install configure a machine using ufs