I do, but unfortunately this is not the case here. He wasn't conflicted - he knew exactly what he was doing, and he fully expected (as did his brother) to die for his cause at some point. There was no mental illness involved, he and his brother took their time picking their target and the means, and his defense (that his brother led him to do it) was rejected by the jury. If they had believed that, they wouldn't have voted for the death penalty. To the contrary, they took his contrition as crocodile tears. This was the epitome of a hate crime.
Now if it had happened up here, where we don't have the death penalty (and I don't agree with the death penalty, but some crimes sorely push the limits, and this is one of them), I would agree that the best course of action is to aim for rehabilitation with the goal of eventually integrating him into society. However, he chose to kill people in a country with the death penalty, and of the two options (death or lifetime incarceration with no hope of appeal) death is certainly far less cruel.
And let's be honest - it's not like he's going to be executed any time soon - and it's doubtful he'll ever be executed. That's why there's an appeals process for the sentencing portion, even though he waived his right to an appeal on the conviction. So why not let him sweat a bit... especially since he and his brother were committed to killing until they died.
The death penalty isn't a deterrent, and neither are longer jail sentences. But it takes time for each society to realize that themselves, on their own terms, in their own time, from their own history - it can't be imposed by fiat by outsiders.
Minimum security prison and club fed are definitely not punishment - at least the inmates don't consider it as such. They've got drugs, booze, sex with their spouse, free room and board, don't have to work, don't have to listen to their kids screaming, etc.
It's why they talk about it among themselves as going on a vacation to see all their old buddies.
The post you relied to was specifically about how, and I quote, "petty criminals enter the system, only to become professional criminals." This is absolutely true, and has nothing to do with someone in a maximum security facility.
No, but getting them fired (interfering with their employment contract with a third party when you know it will get them fired) is pretty much the definition of tortious interference.
Wasn't the stereotype that older people got harder of hearing? Or has this switched to the ear-bud generation, whose "music" you can hear 20 feet away?
I guess I've gotten used to the membrane keyboards - sure you have to push the keys further down, but I learned on a manual typewriter in high school, and switching to a Selectric was a real PITA - I found the touch was way too light. To each their own.
I'm speaking specifically to transsexualism, which is a small subset of transgenderism. Transsexualism itself is no longer considered to be a psychological issue, and it has both elements of gene expression and physical brain development.
Of course it has psychological implications - but where did this "equating sexual attraction to a specific gender with the desire to become another gender" enter into the discussion? I think the post I was replying to was referring to favourable bias towards female candidates for jobs, not sex.
That being said, I agree with you that equating the two is a disreputed theory called (in m2f cases) autogynephilia, pushed by Ray Blanchard, J. Michael Bailey, and Anne Lawrence, which interpreted transsexualism in a sexual, rather than gender, context.
He ran over his brother - that makes 4. Before that, he and his brother also killed Sean Collier, the MIT police officer. That's 5. And then there's the hundreds who are maimed for life.
I'm against the death penalty, but I'm willing to admit that there may be justifiable exceptions. Is this one of them? That was for the jury to decide, not me, but I certainly won't lose any sleep over their decision.
Tortious interference does not require that the claim be false. From the article:
Although the specific elements required to prove a claim of tortious interference vary from one jurisdiction to another, they typically include the following:
The existence of a contractual relationship or beneficial business relationship between two parties.
Knowledge of that relationship by a third party.
Intent of the third party to induce a party to the relationship to breach the relationship.
Lack of any privilege on the part of the third party to induce such a breach.
The contractual relationship is breached.
Damage to the party against whom the breach occurs.
The two-line blurb before that is factually wrong and should be edited. This being wikipedia, good luck with that.
The number sounds about right - you have all the kids, plus a whole slew mandatory for military personnel, plus travelers, plus booster shots, plus the biggie - annual flu shots.
Since manufacturers have to pay a levy to the government fund for every dose they distribute for a disease (The MMR vaccine, since it covers 3 diseases, has to pay 3 levies per dose), it doesn't make economic sense to over-produce and over-distribute.
Which agrees with what I was saying - keep the mosquitoes under control to solve the problem. If I'm going somewhere with my dog and there are mosquitoes, he gets sprayed with the same mosquito repellent I do, at the same time.
Measles is a highly contagious, serious disease caused by a virus. In 1980, before widespread vaccination, measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year.
The disease remains one of the leading causes of death among young children globally, despite the availability of a safe and effective vaccine. Approximately 145 700 people died from measles in 2013 – mostly children under the age of 5.
Measles is caused by a virus in the paramyxovirus family and it is normally passed through direct contact and through the air. The virus infects the mucous membranes, then spreads throughout the body. Measles is a human disease and is not known to occur in animals.
Accelerated immunization activities have had a major impact on reducing measles deaths. During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths. Global measles deaths have decreased by 75% from an estimated 544 200 in 2000 to 145 700 in 2013.
We no longer have 2.6 million people a year dying. All the recent outbreaks in the US and Canada have been among people who weren't vaccinated. And then there were these idiots to serve as an example.
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I do, but unfortunately this is not the case here. He wasn't conflicted - he knew exactly what he was doing, and he fully expected (as did his brother) to die for his cause at some point. There was no mental illness involved, he and his brother took their time picking their target and the means, and his defense (that his brother led him to do it) was rejected by the jury. If they had believed that, they wouldn't have voted for the death penalty. To the contrary, they took his contrition as crocodile tears. This was the epitome of a hate crime.
Now if it had happened up here, where we don't have the death penalty (and I don't agree with the death penalty, but some crimes sorely push the limits, and this is one of them), I would agree that the best course of action is to aim for rehabilitation with the goal of eventually integrating him into society. However, he chose to kill people in a country with the death penalty, and of the two options (death or lifetime incarceration with no hope of appeal) death is certainly far less cruel.
And let's be honest - it's not like he's going to be executed any time soon - and it's doubtful he'll ever be executed. That's why there's an appeals process for the sentencing portion, even though he waived his right to an appeal on the conviction. So why not let him sweat a bit ... especially since he and his brother were committed to killing until they died.
The death penalty isn't a deterrent, and neither are longer jail sentences. But it takes time for each society to realize that themselves, on their own terms, in their own time, from their own history - it can't be imposed by fiat by outsiders.
Minimum security prison and club fed are definitely not punishment - at least the inmates don't consider it as such. They've got drugs, booze, sex with their spouse, free room and board, don't have to work, don't have to listen to their kids screaming, etc.
It's why they talk about it among themselves as going on a vacation to see all their old buddies.
There's a difference between murder (unjustified killing) and justified execution, killing in self-defense or to save someone else, etc.
So let's Godwin this puppy - would you be against executing Hitler?
Just for the record, what purpose does killing him serve?
Just for the record, what purpose does NOT killing him serve?
In the meantime (appeals, etc) just feed him greasy bacon until he has a heart attack (or starves to death from refusing to eat pork).
Why can't it be both? It's not like they're mutually exclusive, especially in situations like this one.
Time to cue up the "what if he turns out to be innocent?" cruft.
Why, is he suddenly going to claim "SOMEONE SET US UP THE BOMB!"
The post you relied to was specifically about how, and I quote, "petty criminals enter the system, only to become professional criminals." This is absolutely true, and has nothing to do with someone in a maximum security facility.
No, but getting them fired (interfering with their employment contract with a third party when you know it will get them fired) is pretty much the definition of tortious interference.
So plug a regular keyboard into a USB port on your laptop. And while you're at it, plug in a large external screen and a mouse. Huge improvement.
No Trackpoint
That's a feature, NOT_A_BUG!
I hate the sound of clicky keyboards.
If it's too loud, you're too old!
Wasn't the stereotype that older people got harder of hearing? Or has this switched to the ear-bud generation, whose "music" you can hear 20 feet away?
I guess I've gotten used to the membrane keyboards - sure you have to push the keys further down, but I learned on a manual typewriter in high school, and switching to a Selectric was a real PITA - I found the touch was way too light. To each their own.
I'm speaking specifically to transsexualism, which is a small subset of transgenderism. Transsexualism itself is no longer considered to be a psychological issue, and it has both elements of gene expression and physical brain development.
Of course it has psychological implications - but where did this "equating sexual attraction to a specific gender with the desire to become another gender" enter into the discussion? I think the post I was replying to was referring to favourable bias towards female candidates for jobs, not sex.
That being said, I agree with you that equating the two is a disreputed theory called (in m2f cases) autogynephilia, pushed by Ray Blanchard, J. Michael Bailey, and Anne Lawrence, which interpreted transsexualism in a sexual, rather than gender, context.
Charles Manson's name comes up every parole hearing, even though everyone knows it's going to be denied until he's dead.
He ran over his brother - that makes 4. Before that, he and his brother also killed Sean Collier, the MIT police officer. That's 5. And then there's the hundreds who are maimed for life.
Even his parents have disowned him. Nobody is going to see this scum as a hero, just like nobody sees his brother as one two years later.
This is slashdot - the correct question is "Does he blend?"
I'm against the death penalty, but I'm willing to admit that there may be justifiable exceptions. Is this one of them? That was for the jury to decide, not me, but I certainly won't lose any sleep over their decision.
Although the specific elements required to prove a claim of tortious interference vary from one jurisdiction to another, they typically include the following:
The existence of a contractual relationship or beneficial business relationship between two parties.
Knowledge of that relationship by a third party.
Intent of the third party to induce a party to the relationship to breach the relationship.
Lack of any privilege on the part of the third party to induce such a breach.
The contractual relationship is breached.
Damage to the party against whom the breach occurs.
The two-line blurb before that is factually wrong and should be edited. This being wikipedia, good luck with that.
Thanks - same figures, but you expressed it much better than I did :-)
The number sounds about right - you have all the kids, plus a whole slew mandatory for military personnel, plus travelers, plus booster shots, plus the biggie - annual flu shots.
Since manufacturers have to pay a levy to the government fund for every dose they distribute for a disease (The MMR vaccine, since it covers 3 diseases, has to pay 3 levies per dose), it doesn't make economic sense to over-produce and over-distribute.
Which agrees with what I was saying - keep the mosquitoes under control to solve the problem. If I'm going somewhere with my dog and there are mosquitoes, he gets sprayed with the same mosquito repellent I do, at the same time.
Oops - the link
Here's mine
Measles is a highly contagious, serious disease caused by a virus. In 1980, before widespread vaccination, measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year.
The disease remains one of the leading causes of death among young children globally, despite the availability of a safe and effective vaccine. Approximately 145 700 people died from measles in 2013 – mostly children under the age of 5.
Measles is caused by a virus in the paramyxovirus family and it is normally passed through direct contact and through the air. The virus infects the mucous membranes, then spreads throughout the body. Measles is a human disease and is not known to occur in animals.
Accelerated immunization activities have had a major impact on reducing measles deaths. During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths. Global measles deaths have decreased by 75% from an estimated 544 200 in 2000 to 145 700 in 2013.
We no longer have 2.6 million people a year dying. All the recent outbreaks in the US and Canada have been among people who weren't vaccinated. And then there were these idiots to serve as an example.