Turbo Pascal ad Turbo C were $99. Borland C++ 3.1 was available for upgrade pricing for far less then 1/4 the cost of a home computer then. And if you really wanted to scratch your itch, debug was free, and plenty of programs were built using nothing more than that (plus it gave you a good education into how computers worked).
That's why you use a laptop as a desktop replacement. You don't care if the power goes off for a second - it's not going to fry your machine. It's also quieter, and with an external mouse, keyboard, and screen, you still get the two-screen goodness as well as portability when you need it. And when it finally dies, you'll be able to buy a replacement for half the price that has 2x the ram, cores, and storage for half the price.
debug was included free, and you could code in assembly just fine. Plenty of people did. Turbo C was $99, and well worth every penny. Sometimes, you really do get what you pay for.
The Internet is killing itself off quite nicely - it used to be Sturgeon's Law - 90% of everything is sh*t. Well, now it's rotting at ludicrous speed - and will soon go to plaid. After which, we'll have to come up with something that works more along the lines of local neighborhoods only, by invite only. You know, create real communities of users instead of this advertising-driven shite.
"But the RAM is soldered to the system board." So what? My first computer, a power surge took out the CPU, I had to unsolder it and solder a new one in it's place. If there's enough demand, shops will start offering to unsolder/replace RAM (don't be surprised if someone automates the process - it will be better than human hands and eyes can do).
When the hard drive in this laptop goes, I won't even unsolder it - just clip the leads and add a socket. Or use a memory card or external drive. Who cares any more? After a certain point, for most uses by most users, anything is "fast enough", and I can run an OS directly off USB anyway (not the fastest in the world, but it will do in a pinch).
It's also resulted in a dearth of innovative products, because when you only see yourself as your competition, you get lazy and sloppy and "courageous."
The way Applie is going, a decade from now it will probably have another "near death" experience. Apple, the company whose slogan was "Think Different" (in retaliation to IBM's "Think") hasn't had an innovative new product category in a while.
Seems that Apple and Microsoft are on some sort of convergence, where they are becoming more like each other. Hardware/software vendor lock-in, no ground-shaking new stuff,...
Unless you count stuff like sabatoging peace talks in the Vietnam war. Causing the death of thousands of Americans and more Vietnamese is a really heavy counter-weight to the good stuff he did.
Even the whole "open up trade with communist China" thing is backfiring big time.
Have you included all the externalities in air travel costs? Maybe if they were included, instead of moving people all over the place, we'd have more incentive to telecommute.
Next time could you bother to read the article? Yes, titanium dioxide is common, which is the entire point of mentioning that element, because the elemental form is far less common, and even less common then.
It's not that your comments aren't valuable, it's that you don't know when you have fine caviar in your hand or fetid dogshit -- it's the same to you either way. In this case — so you know — this is dogshit.
Pure titanium isn't used in aircraft - it's used as part of an alloy. So if they detected pure titanium (as they claimed) it's most definitely not from aircraft manufacturing, since the alloys arrive at the factory already smelted and cast or rolled, ready for machining or forming, so that pretty much kills the whole thing. They're not going to manufacture the alloys at the plant from elemental titanium.
So it's exactly what I said - a just another crowdsourcing scam targeting people with more money than brains.
Speaking of which, you would have known this if you had taken the time that you wasted typing up your - as you would say - dogshit response - to see if maybe the article was, in fact, bullshit. Or dogshit. Or whatever.
Violence has been used in the past by the government and business (see government invasions of countries that businesses want to take over economically, as well as the history of police and military force, and the courts, to quell labor demonstrations - we had the riot squad, reinforced by police, tear gas, rubber bullets, etc. shut down demonstrations under laws that were later deemed unconstitutional. So they pass more unconstitutional laws and expect that to "fix" the problem.
The size of the economy is secondary. Russia can roll over three Baltic countries in 3 days, and NATO - which includes the US - can't do crap to prevent it (search for the RAND study). And let's face it Russia invaded and annexed part of Poland - a NATO ally - and the US and the rest of NATO took it up the ass. The NATO allies have a much larger total economy than Russia. And yet they were powerless.
As for China, watch what's happening in the South China Sea and how it affects the global economy.
As with Russia and the Middle East, the US is too distant from the South China Sea to be able to mount a long-term, or even a very effective large short-term deterrent force in the area. China wants Taiwan, and also wants to control Japan. The only way for either of these countries to have even medium-term security is nukes on the ground and under water, same as Israel has used its' nuclear weapons to keep everyone around it at bay.
Problem is, Russia won't like Japan having nuclear weapons, and China won't like Taiwan having nuclear weapons. So the options are either a large quick conventional strike, a military sea embargo, or a strategic preemptive nuking of one or two sites as a demonstration of "what if." In both cases, the 3rd option is both the cheapest and the most likely to achieve the desired results.
Bullshit - pure titanium isn't used in SST construction. It's always an alloy. And the far more likely source is catalytic converters or glass manufacturing, same as the cerium that was detected. Titanium is just not rare. You'd be contaminated with both elements if you worked in a muffler shop in 1971.
The whole thing is yet another scam to dupe people out of money. First, titanium is far from rare. Titanium dioxide has been used as a pigment since the 1800s. It's the most used white pigment. It's also in sunscreen, food, cosmetics, rubber, paper, plastics, and... well, you get the point. It's everywhere, and has been well before the '70s.
The boomers are still alive - and they too have suffered income declines in the last 50 years. Many are currently living in poverty, with no prospect of ever getting out of it. Imagine you're a senior citizen and your pitance is still being garnisheed for student loans... they should have declared bankruptcy when it would have cleared those loans, instead of doing the right thing. The negative impact on their health from that debt overhang and reduced income is going to end up costing taxpayers more in increased health care costs than if the loan had just been written off.
GenX: So ignored we don't even come up in a rant on a message board.
I'm referring to chronological generations - 25 year periods. The last 50 years most certainly covers GenX. Remember, GenX, GenY, Millennials, that's all just marketspeak concocted by snake oil salesmen in pursuit of unicorns. After all, if they can divide people into artificial groups, they can conquer them more easily.
How is that all that different from web sites that monitor every mouse movement, key stroke, and web site that you visit?
Presumably because they can't monitor your mouse movements and key strokes when you're on another site that isn't theirs.
How naive. Of course they can. When I worked for the Russians, that was one of the tasks we were given. Did a proof of concept, but also managed to convince them that it was illegal as all hell (because it is) so it was never deployed. Leave it to the cocksuckers of Silly Valley to think that they're so far above the law that they can do anything because $$$+Internet.
Thank $DIETY! And I sincerely mean that as an atheist. Then again, 100 years from now everyone will have a job because we'll be back to a pre-industrial planet and "everyone" will be a much smaller number.
Obama replied: "I can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented themselves, so that's not something that I would comment on at this point."
This is an outright lie. Not surprising, given the number of lies this administration has made, after promising the most transparent government in history. The Office is doing their best to back this position with word games, rather than clearly (do I dare use the word "transparently") state that a pardon is possible without any trial whatsoever?
Obama is a failure as a president. Under him, the US went from the #1 world power to #3, despite still having the world's largest military. Russia is now firmly #1, because they have shown they can repeatedly ignore the rest of the world, including the US and the UN. China is #2, because they could launch a military blockade of Taiwan tomorrow and what's the US going to do - stop buying Chinese goods? The stock market would crash overnight. Heck, all China has to do to tank the US stock market for the next 4 years is halt all shipments of iPhones. Apple is in decline anyway - nice way to crash the tech bubble in 24 hours. Or they could just put a big fat $1000 per phone export tax on them. Even if they only sold 5% as many, they would make more profit off them.
Even Netanyahu made it clear how little power Obama has, pissing on his administration before congress and the world. Under Obama, the Palestine-Israeli two-state solution has now been buried. Never going to happen. So much for Obama's peace prize.
Between Bush2 and Obama, the US will almost definitely never recover. But that's okay - we have 6 billion surplus people on the planet - a few nuclear wars will solve that. And as a species, we really don't fit in here, do we?
How many web sites also monitor your key strokes, mouse movements, and everywhere else you go? An ordinary application that doesn't require connection to the internet isn't going to spy on you and monetize you as aggressively - or if it does, it will be called malware or spyware, not Facebook.
Or you can just have the user download a compiled program and the client pays for the electricity for running it without the penalties involved with javascript. You know, like we used to do before everything had to be done on the server so as to serve you better (for any definition of "better" that includes ads and spying on everything you do).
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Turbo Pascal ad Turbo C were $99. Borland C++ 3.1 was available for upgrade pricing for far less then 1/4 the cost of a home computer then. And if you really wanted to scratch your itch, debug was free, and plenty of programs were built using nothing more than that (plus it gave you a good education into how computers worked).
It's 2017. It's Infoworld. Why did you expect anything more than fake news, citizen?
That's why you use a laptop as a desktop replacement. You don't care if the power goes off for a second - it's not going to fry your machine. It's also quieter, and with an external mouse, keyboard, and screen, you still get the two-screen goodness as well as portability when you need it. And when it finally dies, you'll be able to buy a replacement for half the price that has 2x the ram, cores, and storage for half the price.
debug was included free, and you could code in assembly just fine. Plenty of people did. Turbo C was $99, and well worth every penny. Sometimes, you really do get what you pay for.
The Internet is killing itself off quite nicely - it used to be Sturgeon's Law - 90% of everything is sh*t. Well, now it's rotting at ludicrous speed - and will soon go to plaid. After which, we'll have to come up with something that works more along the lines of local neighborhoods only, by invite only. You know, create real communities of users instead of this advertising-driven shite.
"But the RAM is soldered to the system board." So what? My first computer, a power surge took out the CPU, I had to unsolder it and solder a new one in it's place. If there's enough demand, shops will start offering to unsolder/replace RAM (don't be surprised if someone automates the process - it will be better than human hands and eyes can do).
When the hard drive in this laptop goes, I won't even unsolder it - just clip the leads and add a socket. Or use a memory card or external drive. Who cares any more? After a certain point, for most uses by most users, anything is "fast enough", and I can run an OS directly off USB anyway (not the fastest in the world, but it will do in a pinch).
It's also resulted in a dearth of innovative products, because when you only see yourself as your competition, you get lazy and sloppy and "courageous."
The way Applie is going, a decade from now it will probably have another "near death" experience. Apple, the company whose slogan was "Think Different" (in retaliation to IBM's "Think") hasn't had an innovative new product category in a while.
Seems that Apple and Microsoft are on some sort of convergence, where they are becoming more like each other. Hardware/software vendor lock-in, no ground-shaking new stuff, ...
Tricky Dicky had a pretty fair record,
Unless you count stuff like sabatoging peace talks in the Vietnam war. Causing the death of thousands of Americans and more Vietnamese is a really heavy counter-weight to the good stuff he did.
Even the whole "open up trade with communist China" thing is backfiring big time.
Have you included all the externalities in air travel costs? Maybe if they were included, instead of moving people all over the place, we'd have more incentive to telecommute.
Next time could you bother to read the article? Yes, titanium dioxide is common, which is the entire point of mentioning that element, because the elemental form is far less common, and even less common then.
It's not that your comments aren't valuable, it's that you don't know when you have fine caviar in your hand or fetid dogshit -- it's the same to you either way. In this case — so you know — this is dogshit.
Pure titanium isn't used in aircraft - it's used as part of an alloy. So if they detected pure titanium (as they claimed) it's most definitely not from aircraft manufacturing, since the alloys arrive at the factory already smelted and cast or rolled, ready for machining or forming, so that pretty much kills the whole thing. They're not going to manufacture the alloys at the plant from elemental titanium.
So it's exactly what I said - a just another crowdsourcing scam targeting people with more money than brains.
Speaking of which, you would have known this if you had taken the time that you wasted typing up your - as you would say - dogshit response - to see if maybe the article was, in fact, bullshit. Or dogshit. Or whatever.
but I'm starting to think violence is.
Violence has been used in the past by the government and business (see government invasions of countries that businesses want to take over economically, as well as the history of police and military force, and the courts, to quell labor demonstrations - we had the riot squad, reinforced by police, tear gas, rubber bullets, etc. shut down demonstrations under laws that were later deemed unconstitutional. So they pass more unconstitutional laws and expect that to "fix" the problem.
Historically, it always ends in violence.
Good catch! Thanks.
The size of the economy is secondary. Russia can roll over three Baltic countries in 3 days, and NATO - which includes the US - can't do crap to prevent it (search for the RAND study). And let's face it Russia invaded and annexed part of Poland - a NATO ally - and the US and the rest of NATO took it up the ass. The NATO allies have a much larger total economy than Russia. And yet they were powerless.
As for China, watch what's happening in the South China Sea and how it affects the global economy.
As with Russia and the Middle East, the US is too distant from the South China Sea to be able to mount a long-term, or even a very effective large short-term deterrent force in the area. China wants Taiwan, and also wants to control Japan. The only way for either of these countries to have even medium-term security is nukes on the ground and under water, same as Israel has used its' nuclear weapons to keep everyone around it at bay.
Problem is, Russia won't like Japan having nuclear weapons, and China won't like Taiwan having nuclear weapons. So the options are either a large quick conventional strike, a military sea embargo, or a strategic preemptive nuking of one or two sites as a demonstration of "what if." In both cases, the 3rd option is both the cheapest and the most likely to achieve the desired results.
Bullshit - pure titanium isn't used in SST construction. It's always an alloy. And the far more likely source is catalytic converters or glass manufacturing, same as the cerium that was detected. Titanium is just not rare. You'd be contaminated with both elements if you worked in a muffler shop in 1971.
The whole thing is yet another scam to dupe people out of money. First, titanium is far from rare. Titanium dioxide has been used as a pigment since the 1800s. It's the most used white pigment. It's also in sunscreen, food, cosmetics, rubber, paper, plastics, and ... well, you get the point. It's everywhere, and has been well before the '70s.
Spying on consumers isn't legal in a LOT of places. 95% of the world isn't Trumpland.
The boomers are still alive - and they too have suffered income declines in the last 50 years. Many are currently living in poverty, with no prospect of ever getting out of it. Imagine you're a senior citizen and your pitance is still being garnisheed for student loans ... they should have declared bankruptcy when it would have cleared those loans, instead of doing the right thing. The negative impact on their health from that debt overhang and reduced income is going to end up costing taxpayers more in increased health care costs than if the loan had just been written off.
Two generations without a real increase in income
GenX: So ignored we don't even come up in a rant on a message board.
I'm referring to chronological generations - 25 year periods. The last 50 years most certainly covers GenX. Remember, GenX, GenY, Millennials, that's all just marketspeak concocted by snake oil salesmen in pursuit of unicorns. After all, if they can divide people into artificial groups, they can conquer them more easily.
How is that all that different from web sites that monitor every mouse movement, key stroke, and web site that you visit?
Presumably because they can't monitor your mouse movements and key strokes when you're on another site that isn't theirs.
How naive. Of course they can. When I worked for the Russians, that was one of the tasks we were given. Did a proof of concept, but also managed to convince them that it was illegal as all hell (because it is) so it was never deployed. Leave it to the cocksuckers of Silly Valley to think that they're so far above the law that they can do anything because $$$+Internet.
I was engaging in irony (:-))
Thank $DIETY! And I sincerely mean that as an atheist. Then again, 100 years from now everyone will have a job because we'll be back to a pre-industrial planet and "everyone" will be a much smaller number.
Obama replied: "I can't pardon somebody who hasn't gone before a court and presented themselves, so that's not something that I would comment on at this point."
This is an outright lie. Not surprising, given the number of lies this administration has made, after promising the most transparent government in history. The Office is doing their best to back this position with word games, rather than clearly (do I dare use the word "transparently") state that a pardon is possible without any trial whatsoever?
Obama is a failure as a president. Under him, the US went from the #1 world power to #3, despite still having the world's largest military. Russia is now firmly #1, because they have shown they can repeatedly ignore the rest of the world, including the US and the UN. China is #2, because they could launch a military blockade of Taiwan tomorrow and what's the US going to do - stop buying Chinese goods? The stock market would crash overnight. Heck, all China has to do to tank the US stock market for the next 4 years is halt all shipments of iPhones. Apple is in decline anyway - nice way to crash the tech bubble in 24 hours. Or they could just put a big fat $1000 per phone export tax on them. Even if they only sold 5% as many, they would make more profit off them.
Even Netanyahu made it clear how little power Obama has, pissing on his administration before congress and the world. Under Obama, the Palestine-Israeli two-state solution has now been buried. Never going to happen. So much for Obama's peace prize.
Between Bush2 and Obama, the US will almost definitely never recover. But that's okay - we have 6 billion surplus people on the planet - a few nuclear wars will solve that. And as a species, we really don't fit in here, do we?
How many web sites also monitor your key strokes, mouse movements, and everywhere else you go? An ordinary application that doesn't require connection to the internet isn't going to spy on you and monetize you as aggressively - or if it does, it will be called malware or spyware, not Facebook.
How is that all that different from web sites that monitor every mouse movement, key stroke, and web site that you visit?
And of course there's got to be some significant code duplication in all that mess ...
Or you can just have the user download a compiled program and the client pays for the electricity for running it without the penalties involved with javascript. You know, like we used to do before everything had to be done on the server so as to serve you better (for any definition of "better" that includes ads and spying on everything you do).