It's a big world out there if you look out the windows - there's more to computers than the receptionists PC or using a desktop PC to replace a Playstation.
You can't possibly be ignoring the 95% marketshare that Windows has on desktop PCs, can you? This is exactly why Miguel is smarter than most of you complainers--he doesn't dismiss Microsoft just because he hates them. And he's smart enough to appreciate the technology as a result.
Get it overwith. You are obsessed with Microsoft. Every time you give a speech its about Microsoft, every product you seem to work on is a clone of something made by Microsoft. You are more worried about what Microsoft is doing than you are about what Linux is doing.
The blog said this same thing. Lots of the technologies have been implemented elsewhere.
But who all uses Java Webstart? EVERYONE is going to use.NET.
The point is to accept that Microsoft's will be the one to succeed, so we need to work off of that and not answer every single point with "it's been done in so-and-so." You could do that with anything...Microsoft is the one integrating it all into one single desktop entity. I should note that people have been wanting Linux desktops to do that forever, but people always come back with the "choice" argument. And meanwhile Windows trudges foward...
Let's just hope that never happens... Is there anything around at the moment that ONLY runs on XP?
Several applications have gone 2000/XP only. From Cakewalk Sonar to Photoshop CS to lots more. Games haven't made the change, though I'm sure the recent ones have. Most require at least 98SE. But Google Zeitgeist shows that in the past two years, XP has eclipsed 98 in usage, so it's only a matter of time. And believe me, when Longhorn comes out, 98 WILL be completely abandoned by developers. That piece of shit bastard DOS GUI is over five years old now.
I guess the only way to get Slashdotters to care about preventing piracy would be if somehow things were flipped and this story was about raids on GPL copyright violations.
Copyright infringement would suddenly become a really big issue around here, wouldn't it...
Wow, you didn't bother downloading the perfectly legal demo or reading reviews. Instead, you went to some p2p network (probably eMule), downloaded the full game (thereby enabling others to pirate it from you because that's how eMule works), and then decided to buy it.
You're the exception to the rule. 99% of the users on p2p aren't "sampling" things. It's against the law, but more importantly, it's immoral to the programmers and developers who slaved away to get something out the door only to have freeloaders stick it online for people to download and play for free without paying for it. There is absolutely no valid justification.
Why, because there were some demo coders who got involved in the warez scene, that means it's somehow hypocritical to stop piracy of software? What idiots modded this up to +5?
What's hypocritical is bitching about GPL copyright violations then suddenly getting all passive about copyright enforcement of commercial apps. This freeloader mentality is sickening.
It's not creating any wealth in fact its reducing wealth because now people have to waste money on this software that would have been spent on something else.
Gee whiz, you're right, we shouldn't have to pay for software, so that we can spend our money somewhere else.
John Carmack and all commercial software writers everywhere will love you for not paying him for his work. After all, the best way to improve an economy is to not pay its workers.
As much as I hate to admit it, software "piracy" is bad and no matter what excuses peiople come up with.
Why do you hate to admit it, and why do you put quotes around the word? It's piracy. It's wrong. This isn't really a debatable issue. If it is for you, you've got serious moral issues you need to work out--stealing someone's work isn't right.
GPL software gives you permission to use their works without paying, and give you a copyright license.
I can't help but wonder if you get upset when companies violate the copyright of the GPL...I'm sure you won't hate to admit it then, and you won't be putting little quotes around the term either...
Your attempt to glorify the pirate culture notwithstanding ("0day ftz d00d" sounds so heroic, doesn't it?), laws exist and they must be enforced. It is not legal, or moral, to pirate the fruits of someone else's labor just because you've justified it as "human nature that can't be removed." Should we stop enforcing traffic laws since so many people are caught speeding, since hurrying somewhere is a part of human nature that can't be removed?
Sorry, but some people should come to grips with their human natures and stop hurting others by stealing their works.
Are you saying it's not? Many here are implying as much...but most people here are college students and unemployed who don't write software for a living. So no wonder.
Rape, three years? Piracy, four? All that says is that rape conviction times are too low. Irrelevant to this article.
I know apologists are trying to spin it into piracy convictions being too long, though...but if one isn't a software pirate, why should you care anyway? Oh, right--this place has become a haven for piracy backers!:P
This is the 20th time I've seen this mentioned (and about the same amount of times it's been modded up.)
1.) It's not like this is taking up 100% of the FBI. This is being handled by the computer crimes division--the other 98% of the organization is doing whatever else they do. Give it a rest.
2.) Surprise, surprise--all laws are enforced. It's the same reason the policeman who pulls you over for running a stop sign "could be out hunting criminals that actually hurt people." I guess putting people out of work by stealing their product isn't hurting people (yes, it is theft).
3.) I bet you're one of the first to be up in arms when Slashdot posts about a company violating the copyright of the GPL. Suddenly the tune changes when it comes to warez and MP3s.
4.) And before anyone mentions it--just because you think something is "overpriced" still doesn't mean you suddenly get to pirate it. It's a distractive argument that has no relevance whatsoever. If it's too expensive, don't bother! Look for a cheap alternative or an OSS clone of the same functionality.
I think you're simply a guy who's gotten used to the convenience of downloading everything you could want, and now you're mad the government is finally taking away the free ride. What do you think the inevitable result of all this is? When Internet2 becomes the standard and you can download everything in less than a minute, why would anybody want to pay for something that's "wink-wink-nudge it's wrong but everybody does it" illegal?
Will John Carmack appreciate everyone "sampling" the "free advertising" of Doom 3 on eMule when it comes out two weeks before hitting retail? They always do nowadays. Why do you think PC sales are dying and companies are going to console where it's harder to pirate?
With the way Slashdot sometimes posts articles talking about some company possibly violating the copyright of the GPL in some random situation, you'd think Osama Bin Laden was the CEO for every company in the business world.
But I guess copyrights are supposed to be enforced only when it comes to something Slashdot tells you is Good(tm). Not when something is Bad(tm), like actually PAYING for shit.
That doesn't give people the right to pirate anything. A copyright holder's copyright doesn't magically transfer to the eMule network because someone out there thinks something is overpriced and decided to rip it for everybody.
An amusing sidenote--I find it funny people make wisecracks and justifications whenever an MP3 or warez copyright infringement article comes up, but get all up in arms when a company violates the copyright of the GPL. Seems a bit obnoxious and one-sided, but hey, this isn't Slashdot circa 1997 when it was just cool tech news and not a haven for piracy apologists...
Guess you never saw the Matrix trilogy. Or Lost in Translation. Or American Beauty. Or...well, obviously I could list a lot more than this. That's just off the top of my head. Plenty of original films come out. But there's nothing wrong with having a little fun with some franchises, is there?:)
A couple of years ago I had hear John Woo was interested in making a Symphony of the Night film. Konami apparently has a trilogy of scripts floating around. I can see it must have never gone anywhere. John Woo has been expressing his interest in making a videogame movie for a while now. Honestly, I don't have high hopes for this Metroid game.
I want a movie about the first Castlevania game before everything turned to cheesy anime hell, when it was a European horror game about Simon Belmont just fighting zombies and trying to destroy Dracula.
By the way, I know many here probably don't consider it a great film, but I remember Mortal Kombat doing pretty well when it came out, and lots of people went to see it simply because it was a fun action flick with a great techno theme song. In my eyes, it was the first true successful game-to-film translation, even if it isn't regarded as a classic movie (few are). I guess Tomb Raider would have to be considered as well since it did successfully, but I never saw it.
They're even making Spy Hunter starring The Rock. It's insane.
I guess I just find it amusing when someone will jump up to defend Moore and say "you shouldn't insult people, you should argue with facts," and yet Moore loves to call everyone under the sun "liars" and "greedy" and actually invents facts and splices together speeches for his own agendas.
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It's a big world out there if you look out the windows - there's more to computers than the receptionists PC or using a desktop PC to replace a Playstation.
You can't possibly be ignoring the 95% marketshare that Windows has on desktop PCs, can you? This is exactly why Miguel is smarter than most of you complainers--he doesn't dismiss Microsoft just because he hates them. And he's smart enough to appreciate the technology as a result.
Get it overwith. You are obsessed with Microsoft. Every time you give a speech its about Microsoft, every product you seem to work on is a clone of something made by Microsoft. You are more worried about what Microsoft is doing than you are about what Linux is doing.
Hey, welcome to Slashdot and its community...
The blog said this same thing. Lots of the technologies have been implemented elsewhere.
.NET.
But who all uses Java Webstart? EVERYONE is going to use
The point is to accept that Microsoft's will be the one to succeed, so we need to work off of that and not answer every single point with "it's been done in so-and-so." You could do that with anything...Microsoft is the one integrating it all into one single desktop entity. I should note that people have been wanting Linux desktops to do that forever, but people always come back with the "choice" argument. And meanwhile Windows trudges foward...
Let's just hope that never happens... Is there anything around at the moment that ONLY runs on XP?
Several applications have gone 2000/XP only. From Cakewalk Sonar to Photoshop CS to lots more. Games haven't made the change, though I'm sure the recent ones have. Most require at least 98SE. But Google Zeitgeist shows that in the past two years, XP has eclipsed 98 in usage, so it's only a matter of time. And believe me, when Longhorn comes out, 98 WILL be completely abandoned by developers. That piece of shit bastard DOS GUI is over five years old now.
He moved on from Gnome saying C coding was dead,
He most certainly did not say C was dead, and we had an entire Slashdot discussion about how his words were twisted by the headline of the article.
From the summary:
MPAA's version of copyright law
What's the MPAA's version? That you can't pirate shit?
What's Slashdot's version...that you can?
What an irrelevant and moronic quip to make. But then again, this is Slashdot, where copyrights are only valid when it comes to the GPL...
"Copyright Dogma?"
:P
Gee, Slashdot isn't biased...
I guess it's bad to embrace the fact that copyright holders have the right not to have their works pirated.
Uh, Gaim and GnomeMeeting are two different projects. Read what I was quoting and referring to.
Nice to see an amicable fork; it sounds like this will mean competition for GnomeMeeting.
Great, more "competition." See my sig.
I guess the only way to get Slashdotters to care about preventing piracy would be if somehow things were flipped and this story was about raids on GPL copyright violations.
Copyright infringement would suddenly become a really big issue around here, wouldn't it...
Wow, you didn't bother downloading the perfectly legal demo or reading reviews. Instead, you went to some p2p network (probably eMule), downloaded the full game (thereby enabling others to pirate it from you because that's how eMule works), and then decided to buy it.
You're the exception to the rule. 99% of the users on p2p aren't "sampling" things. It's against the law, but more importantly, it's immoral to the programmers and developers who slaved away to get something out the door only to have freeloaders stick it online for people to download and play for free without paying for it. There is absolutely no valid justification.
The system is a hypocrit.
Why, because there were some demo coders who got involved in the warez scene, that means it's somehow hypocritical to stop piracy of software? What idiots modded this up to +5?
What's hypocritical is bitching about GPL copyright violations then suddenly getting all passive about copyright enforcement of commercial apps. This freeloader mentality is sickening.
It's not creating any wealth in fact its reducing wealth because now people have to waste money on this software that would have been spent on something else.
Gee whiz, you're right, we shouldn't have to pay for software, so that we can spend our money somewhere else.
John Carmack and all commercial software writers everywhere will love you for not paying him for his work. After all, the best way to improve an economy is to not pay its workers.
As much as I hate to admit it, software "piracy" is bad and no matter what excuses peiople come up with.
Why do you hate to admit it, and why do you put quotes around the word? It's piracy. It's wrong. This isn't really a debatable issue. If it is for you, you've got serious moral issues you need to work out--stealing someone's work isn't right.
GPL software gives you permission to use their works without paying, and give you a copyright license.
I can't help but wonder if you get upset when companies violate the copyright of the GPL...I'm sure you won't hate to admit it then, and you won't be putting little quotes around the term either...
Your attempt to glorify the pirate culture notwithstanding ("0day ftz d00d" sounds so heroic, doesn't it?), laws exist and they must be enforced. It is not legal, or moral, to pirate the fruits of someone else's labor just because you've justified it as "human nature that can't be removed." Should we stop enforcing traffic laws since so many people are caught speeding, since hurrying somewhere is a part of human nature that can't be removed?
Sorry, but some people should come to grips with their human natures and stop hurting others by stealing their works.
Barring the fact that this is just the beginning, you don't think it sends a message that the law is being enforced?
Why wouldn't you want the law enforced? You don't think software writers also pay taxes? You don't think they want their rights enforced?
Piracy is a real crime.
Are you saying it's not? Many here are implying as much...but most people here are college students and unemployed who don't write software for a living. So no wonder.
Really, none of this has to do with the article.
:P
Rape, three years? Piracy, four? All that says is that rape conviction times are too low. Irrelevant to this article.
I know apologists are trying to spin it into piracy convictions being too long, though...but if one isn't a software pirate, why should you care anyway? Oh, right--this place has become a haven for piracy backers!
And Adobe does?
This is the 20th time I've seen this mentioned (and about the same amount of times it's been modded up.)
1.) It's not like this is taking up 100% of the FBI. This is being handled by the computer crimes division--the other 98% of the organization is doing whatever else they do. Give it a rest.
2.) Surprise, surprise--all laws are enforced. It's the same reason the policeman who pulls you over for running a stop sign "could be out hunting criminals that actually hurt people." I guess putting people out of work by stealing their product isn't hurting people (yes, it is theft).
3.) I bet you're one of the first to be up in arms when Slashdot posts about a company violating the copyright of the GPL. Suddenly the tune changes when it comes to warez and MP3s.
4.) And before anyone mentions it--just because you think something is "overpriced" still doesn't mean you suddenly get to pirate it. It's a distractive argument that has no relevance whatsoever. If it's too expensive, don't bother! Look for a cheap alternative or an OSS clone of the same functionality.
I think you're simply a guy who's gotten used to the convenience of downloading everything you could want, and now you're mad the government is finally taking away the free ride. What do you think the inevitable result of all this is? When Internet2 becomes the standard and you can download everything in less than a minute, why would anybody want to pay for something that's "wink-wink-nudge it's wrong but everybody does it" illegal?
Will John Carmack appreciate everyone "sampling" the "free advertising" of Doom 3 on eMule when it comes out two weeks before hitting retail? They always do nowadays. Why do you think PC sales are dying and companies are going to console where it's harder to pirate?
Sigh.
With the way Slashdot sometimes posts articles talking about some company possibly violating the copyright of the GPL in some random situation, you'd think Osama Bin Laden was the CEO for every company in the business world.
But I guess copyrights are supposed to be enforced only when it comes to something Slashdot tells you is Good(tm). Not when something is Bad(tm), like actually PAYING for shit.
That doesn't give people the right to pirate anything. A copyright holder's copyright doesn't magically transfer to the eMule network because someone out there thinks something is overpriced and decided to rip it for everybody.
An amusing sidenote--I find it funny people make wisecracks and justifications whenever an MP3 or warez copyright infringement article comes up, but get all up in arms when a company violates the copyright of the GPL. Seems a bit obnoxious and one-sided, but hey, this isn't Slashdot circa 1997 when it was just cool tech news and not a haven for piracy apologists...
Guess you never saw the Matrix trilogy. Or Lost in Translation. Or American Beauty. Or...well, obviously I could list a lot more than this. That's just off the top of my head. Plenty of original films come out. But there's nothing wrong with having a little fun with some franchises, is there? :)
Castlevania.
A couple of years ago I had hear John Woo was interested in making a Symphony of the Night film. Konami apparently has a trilogy of scripts floating around. I can see it must have never gone anywhere. John Woo has been expressing his interest in making a videogame movie for a while now. Honestly, I don't have high hopes for this Metroid game.
I want a movie about the first Castlevania game before everything turned to cheesy anime hell, when it was a European horror game about Simon Belmont just fighting zombies and trying to destroy Dracula.
By the way, I know many here probably don't consider it a great film, but I remember Mortal Kombat doing pretty well when it came out, and lots of people went to see it simply because it was a fun action flick with a great techno theme song. In my eyes, it was the first true successful game-to-film translation, even if it isn't regarded as a classic movie (few are). I guess Tomb Raider would have to be considered as well since it did successfully, but I never saw it.
They're even making Spy Hunter starring The Rock. It's insane.
Corrected link. Sorry.
I guess I just find it amusing when someone will jump up to defend Moore and say "you shouldn't insult people, you should argue with facts," and yet Moore loves to call everyone under the sun "liars" and "greedy" and actually invents facts and splices together speeches for his own agendas.