You're right. It's only bias if you're critical of Google but not bias if you defend them as a Motorola and Google fan. I like how you posted twice--anonymously. Afraid of moderation?
Isn't it just so very fashionable to proclaim the burgeoning evil of Google these days.
No, it's accurate. This is a company whose CEO said that people who believe in privacy have something to hide. They scanned and archived neighborhood WiFi networks "accidentally." They prevented Motorola from using Skyhook. This company wants you using Google products to do everything.
It just seems like a trend to you because Slashdot has been so blindingly pro-Google the last 10 years, almost solely due to the fact Google used to made a big deal about using cheap Linux machines for their servers. When free services like Gmail came out, and open source projects like Chrome were released, it made everyone forget that Google's core businesses are still closed source. That's why all those free things exist--to get you onto the search and advertising platform.
This change in perception of Google is a long time coming.
The thing about Apple is that they're not interested in being #1 in market share. They're interested in being #1 in quality, or at least their own view of what quality is. That's why they often do things that leaves people scratching their heads, such as controlling what runs on their phones, which would seem to give competitors an advantage. Apple is probably one of the more harmless tech companies.
Why don't we just wrap it up and say most companies are evil.
No, thanks. I'm a believer in capitalism. It's more apt to say people are selfish, especially in groups. That covers everything from companies and governments to website communities like Slashdot.
Almost all of the last 20 or so stories have been about either social networking sites or Google and its products. Man, I remember when programming topics actually used to make it to the front page. You know, news for nerds.
This IS news. It's news because it's Google. Google is so big and pervasive that they're essentially the next Microsoft, and so it's a bigger issue when trust is violated. That fact this stuff happens all the time is the point. Google is the #1 internet company in the world with indexed data on you and everyone else you know--quite a bit different than some principal's browser history getting snooped at a local public school network. It's an issue of scale and power.
People absolutely need to be reminded that Google is full of the same human beings that work everywhere else and aren't some innocent, trustworthy organization who's helping you out with free services. Those free services only exist to get you onto their proprietary data indexing platform. It's not out of the goodness of their hearts.
What happened around here? Slashdot used to be so pro-privacy as a matter of principle. We're supposed to ignore a huge breach of trust at Google because it happens elsewhere? Nobody else has the enormous amount of data that Google has on you. Think about it.
Don't you get it? The point IS that Google is full of nefarious creeps like everyone else. But Google is different because they're huge and becoming the new Microsoft.
I'm fine with listing that he worked at Google somewhere in the article if you want, but it's still completely and utterly irrelevant that he did. Employees at ANY company can do this -- Google is nothing special.
Holy shit, I'm sick of seeing this argument. Pay attention:
It's absolutely relevant that he worked at Google. Google IS special. Google is the biggest internet-based company in the world and is archiving all your data across various services to a centralized location. They want you to trust them with your personal life. That's why it's a big story.
But at least it's just your email and not your calendars, IMs, bookmarks, voice chats, browser history, search terms, etc. etc. etc. etc. all stored at one company.
Google fanboys to the rescue! Using their firehoses of fandom, they put out the fires and tell you that this is a non-story. Why, the biggest internet-based company in the world with the biggest customer data archive in the world is merely a "salacious reason" for posting a headline about privacy abuse! Are you questioning Google's cloud computing? This was merely an "individual!" It doesn't matter that he wasn't caught by the company for months, and that it's an illustration of how you don't know when your privacy is broken by a corporation with financial interests in information about your life.
Assimilate, Slashdotters! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! He's an individual person doing nefarious actions!
What the fuck? A Google engineer with access to the most sensitive information at the most powerful internet-based company in the world abused his privileges and wasn't caught for months until parents had to complain to Google about it. That is absolutely newsworthy.
The Gawker story is almost exactly the same as the ComputerWorld article, so I'm not sure what you're criticizing when claiming that the original post was making it sound more creepy than it is (it even quotes the Gawker story). In fact, the ComputerWorld article makes the situation seem even worse by doubting that this has only happened twice in Google's history, turning it into a "cloud computing" trust story.
This argument is so dumb. The issue is that of scale. Thousands of people aren't driving by your house, but by having it online, millions of people really can see your house and neighborhood. All it takes is one kook.
Which is why trusting all your data to one company who has a financial incentive to index and archive your data permanently is something you should seriously consider.
Only on Slashdot is crap like this defended. "This isn't really newsworthy; it's only being posted because it's Google."
Remember when Slashdot gave a shit about privacy and rights? Then Google came along and gave you free email so you'd get hooked onto their closed source search/advertising platform, and suddenly Google can do absolutely no wrong.
Facebook and Myspace aren't the biggest internet companies in the world archiving your email, voice calls, IMs, WiFi networks, etc. etc. etc. in one location.
Actually, another big problem is that Google didn't catch the guy. The teenagers' parents complained when the Google employee clearly knew information he could only have gleamed by accessing their children's data. It had been going on for months.
The scary issue is that many people are using so many of Google's services--email, voice chat, documents, and more. They're archiving all your information in a central location where the risk of abuse like this is high. Though Facebook is trying to be a lot of things, it's not there yet, and you're not using it to make calls or send emails. Google wants you to do everything through Google so their closed-source, proprietary indexing engine can store it all.
It's so annoying how slow Slashdot is about news these days. This story was already debunked. A simple Google search would have found that out before it was published to the front page.
The All-Stars version of Super Mario Bros. has inaccurate physics when jumping and breaking a brick, unfortunately. Mario keeps rising in altitude instead of immediately falling down, which sounds minor but affects you if you're used to running and hitting bricks without stopping like in the original.
For years, I thought I was the only one who ever noticed this, but I see that it's mentioned at TMK.
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Yeah, let's ignore public market share figures saying otherwise.
You're right. It's only bias if you're critical of Google but not bias if you defend them as a Motorola and Google fan. I like how you posted twice--anonymously. Afraid of moderation?
Next.
It absolutely implies it. A Google fan gives his account of what he thinks happened in which Google does no wrong. It's obvious to everybody.
Next.
Whew! Thank goodness the Google fans are here to tell us their version of the "truth." MUST NOT CRITICIZE GOOGLE.
No, it's accurate. This is a company whose CEO said that people who believe in privacy have something to hide. They scanned and archived neighborhood WiFi networks "accidentally." They prevented Motorola from using Skyhook. This company wants you using Google products to do everything.
It just seems like a trend to you because Slashdot has been so blindingly pro-Google the last 10 years, almost solely due to the fact Google used to made a big deal about using cheap Linux machines for their servers. When free services like Gmail came out, and open source projects like Chrome were released, it made everyone forget that Google's core businesses are still closed source. That's why all those free things exist--to get you onto the search and advertising platform.
This change in perception of Google is a long time coming.
Whew! Thanks for going out of your way to find a more pro-Google article for us. Negativity toward Google is "biased."
The thing about Apple is that they're not interested in being #1 in market share. They're interested in being #1 in quality, or at least their own view of what quality is. That's why they often do things that leaves people scratching their heads, such as controlling what runs on their phones, which would seem to give competitors an advantage. Apple is probably one of the more harmless tech companies.
No, thanks. I'm a believer in capitalism. It's more apt to say people are selfish, especially in groups. That covers everything from companies and governments to website communities like Slashdot.
Almost all of the last 20 or so stories have been about either social networking sites or Google and its products. Man, I remember when programming topics actually used to make it to the front page. You know, news for nerds.
This IS news. It's news because it's Google. Google is so big and pervasive that they're essentially the next Microsoft, and so it's a bigger issue when trust is violated. That fact this stuff happens all the time is the point. Google is the #1 internet company in the world with indexed data on you and everyone else you know--quite a bit different than some principal's browser history getting snooped at a local public school network. It's an issue of scale and power.
People absolutely need to be reminded that Google is full of the same human beings that work everywhere else and aren't some innocent, trustworthy organization who's helping you out with free services. Those free services only exist to get you onto their proprietary data indexing platform. It's not out of the goodness of their hearts.
What happened around here? Slashdot used to be so pro-privacy as a matter of principle. We're supposed to ignore a huge breach of trust at Google because it happens elsewhere? Nobody else has the enormous amount of data that Google has on you. Think about it.
Don't you get it? The point IS that Google is full of nefarious creeps like everyone else. But Google is different because they're huge and becoming the new Microsoft.
Holy shit, I'm sick of seeing this argument. Pay attention:
It's absolutely relevant that he worked at Google. Google IS special. Google is the biggest internet-based company in the world and is archiving all your data across various services to a centralized location. They want you to trust them with your personal life. That's why it's a big story.
But at least it's just your email and not your calendars, IMs, bookmarks, voice chats, browser history, search terms, etc. etc. etc. etc. all stored at one company.
Google fanboys to the rescue! Using their firehoses of fandom, they put out the fires and tell you that this is a non-story. Why, the biggest internet-based company in the world with the biggest customer data archive in the world is merely a "salacious reason" for posting a headline about privacy abuse! Are you questioning Google's cloud computing? This was merely an "individual!" It doesn't matter that he wasn't caught by the company for months, and that it's an illustration of how you don't know when your privacy is broken by a corporation with financial interests in information about your life.
Assimilate, Slashdotters! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! He's an individual person doing nefarious actions!
What the fuck? A Google engineer with access to the most sensitive information at the most powerful internet-based company in the world abused his privileges and wasn't caught for months until parents had to complain to Google about it. That is absolutely newsworthy.
The Gawker story is almost exactly the same as the ComputerWorld article, so I'm not sure what you're criticizing when claiming that the original post was making it sound more creepy than it is (it even quotes the Gawker story). In fact, the ComputerWorld article makes the situation seem even worse by doubting that this has only happened twice in Google's history, turning it into a "cloud computing" trust story.
This argument is so dumb. The issue is that of scale. Thousands of people aren't driving by your house, but by having it online, millions of people really can see your house and neighborhood. All it takes is one kook.
Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, said only people who have something to hide care about privacy. Ugh.
Which is why trusting all your data to one company who has a financial incentive to index and archive your data permanently is something you should seriously consider.
Google apparently had reason enough to fire him, and that's what the article is about. What exactly in this discussion are you objecting to?
Only on Slashdot is crap like this defended. "This isn't really newsworthy; it's only being posted because it's Google."
Remember when Slashdot gave a shit about privacy and rights? Then Google came along and gave you free email so you'd get hooked onto their closed source search/advertising platform, and suddenly Google can do absolutely no wrong.
Facebook and Myspace aren't the biggest internet companies in the world archiving your email, voice calls, IMs, WiFi networks, etc. etc. etc. in one location.
Actually, another big problem is that Google didn't catch the guy. The teenagers' parents complained when the Google employee clearly knew information he could only have gleamed by accessing their children's data. It had been going on for months.
The scary issue is that many people are using so many of Google's services--email, voice chat, documents, and more. They're archiving all your information in a central location where the risk of abuse like this is high. Though Facebook is trying to be a lot of things, it's not there yet, and you're not using it to make calls or send emails. Google wants you to do everything through Google so their closed-source, proprietary indexing engine can store it all.
It's so annoying how slow Slashdot is about news these days. This story was already debunked. A simple Google search would have found that out before it was published to the front page.
Mario doesn't hit the bricks with his head.
You just got SERVED.
The All-Stars version of Super Mario Bros. has inaccurate physics when jumping and breaking a brick, unfortunately. Mario keeps rising in altitude instead of immediately falling down, which sounds minor but affects you if you're used to running and hitting bricks without stopping like in the original.
For years, I thought I was the only one who ever noticed this, but I see that it's mentioned at TMK.