Applied to a wider context, this is pretty much why our species is doomed. No pre-emption. All reaction.
What if we don't believe in your scary stories about the bogeyman, though? There's no need for bogeyman "pre-emption". There's no need for bogeyman "pre-emption" rules and bogeyman "pre-emption" police. Lots of people would rather not spend their days being threatened by police because of special interest storytelling.
Why wouldn't we just deal with the issue when it happened rather than making a bunch of rules for everyone to follow and hiring police to enforce them on everyone?
Dateline SAN JOSE: Special interests make dire predictions of the future to try to gain favorable government policy treatment. "Give us what we want or it will be just terrible," they said. "We'll all die of Silicon Valley ennui!" When asked how many startups would die anyway of unrealistic optimism and poor management, they just glared and sullenly shuffled away, whispering under their breath.
Sadly, we never got the chance to ask them how accurate their other predictions of the future were.
Societies should disallow these types of lawsuits -- maybe with some sort of exception if you can prove someone had the specific intention of driving the person to suicide.
For people reading this, my suggestion is to make an effort to simply be kind and/or friendly to people you work with or interact with. Maybe it will help someone who really needs it.
If something is so bad that you can't be kind or friendly, find another job or make whatever other change you need to make.
Yeah, include all the relevant context. People who want to accuse Trump or anyone else of wrongdoing or "hatred" or whatever should be specific and make their case without taking things out of context or exaggerating. Please inform us.
The campaign is over, there's no need for salesmanship. What's the factual story?
You mean they want your money and will do anything to get it?
Not "anything". They will sell you an item you want. They will make it easy to buy and deliver it promptly and some of them will make it easy to return if you have a problem.
You don't have to fall for their diabolical schemes though. Don't buy that stuff. Only use items you find in dumpsters or on the side of the road.
The more important reason being that the appeals process takes a while, even in cases like this where a lower court ruling is clearly counter to the established case law. The order was upheld in Virginia on March 24th, so it will probably be headed to the Supreme Court.
Perhaps the Supreme Court will rule that foreign nationals on foreign soil enjoy rights under the US Constitution... somehow. Or that laws and rulings and precedents that have applied to every other President and Presidential Administration don't apply this time... for some reason. I'm guessing they won't.
And how is that consistent with it expiring after 90 days? And only including a small minority of Muslims? And changing to allow travel from previously-banned Iraq? Did Iraq stop being a Muslim country during those 2 weeks?
Probably it's the president's stated desire to ban Muslim immigrants that makes people think it's hateful bigotry.
Or maybe we shouldn't take him at his word?
Perhaps you'd like to furnish a direct, in context quotation of those words to support this?
Trump says lots of dumb stuff. Trump opponents also exaggerate.
Lots of haters have no problem hating whoever, because [reasons]. They should all stop being haters. Including you.
There's no point in singing kumbaya when half the country cheers ethnic "cleansing", meaning mass deportation and police-state harassment regular people.
If you're talking about the US, there's no "ethnic cleansing " in the US. Perhaps some of this hatred is because people like you make up or repeat false stories like this? There's also no "mass deportation" of "regular people".
Unfortunately, there is government harassment -- which is one reason why I support a smaller government with less power over people.
Yeah, it's hard to understand what makes a 90-day travel ban from a few places like Yemen, Iran, and Somalia "hate". (Especially when Iraq was dropped from the list of countries after working out vetting of travelers with the State Department.) Normally hatred isn't scheduled to expire after 3 months.
You have no problem with hatred, as long as it is directed towards whites.
Incorrect. Hatred directed towards whites is as bad as any other. People should stop encouraging it. If you wouldn't cheer at a Klan meeting, don't cheer at hatred directed towards whites.
Because large segments of society -- including "thought leaders" -- that used to be nominally against hate are now cheerleading for it.
The election was a good example, with one candidate bad-mouthing Mexicans and Muslims (in a way described by some as hateful) and the other directly calling Americans in the other party "enemies" and identifying a broad class of Americans as "irredeemable" and/or "deplorable".
If we don't want more hate, let's stop encouraging it.
The one saying "it shouldn't matter" is just wishing for something different than reality. Wishing is normal. Why wish for this specifically though? That's the part that's harder to understand.
The kid does have the wrong genes. They wanted their kid, they got somebody else's kid. It fucking matters!
More-or-less everyone understands this. And more-or-less everyone throughout history would understand this.
The people claiming this is "weird" or "fucked up" are either strange themselves, or they're pretending. Either way, they're pushing a moral or ethical idea that contradicts nature. They're going to need a better sales pitch.
And all the questions about why this matters are a sign of an open mind. But then the answers are about someone's feelings being validated, which isn't something I value.
It's not analogous because the person who "was caught stealing a car" actually died a long time ago. And you want me to distrust a completely different person because he won't jump through a specific hoop for you. (And there's no reason to trust a random person anyway, so it's a doubly strange concern.)
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Applied to a wider context, this is pretty much why our species is doomed. No pre-emption. All reaction.
What if we don't believe in your scary stories about the bogeyman, though? There's no need for bogeyman "pre-emption". There's no need for bogeyman "pre-emption" rules and bogeyman "pre-emption" police. Lots of people would rather not spend their days being threatened by police because of special interest storytelling.
Why wouldn't we just deal with the issue when it happened rather than making a bunch of rules for everyone to follow and hiring police to enforce them on everyone?
What if we don't believe in scary stories about what the bogeyman might do?
Dateline SAN JOSE: Special interests make dire predictions of the future to try to gain favorable government policy treatment. "Give us what we want or it will be just terrible," they said. "We'll all die of Silicon Valley ennui!" When asked how many startups would die anyway of unrealistic optimism and poor management, they just glared and sullenly shuffled away, whispering under their breath.
Sadly, we never got the chance to ask them how accurate their other predictions of the future were.
It's going to legally be tough for them to wriggle out of.
This is morally wrong and dangerous. Morally wrong because if you commit suicide, you did it, not someone who made you feel bad. Dangerous because incentive payments for people who commit suicide is counterproductive unless you want more suicides.
Societies should disallow these types of lawsuits -- maybe with some sort of exception if you can prove someone had the specific intention of driving the person to suicide.
A job is nothing more than a means to earn money to enjoy things in life.
Some people work at a job to help people and be valuable. There's more to life than work, but there's also more to life than self indulgence.
If you have to write a check, you don't get an extension on that.
For people reading this, my suggestion is to make an effort to simply be kind and/or friendly to people you work with or interact with. Maybe it will help someone who really needs it.
If something is so bad that you can't be kind or friendly, find another job or make whatever other change you need to make.
Yeah, include all the relevant context. People who want to accuse Trump or anyone else of wrongdoing or "hatred" or whatever should be specific and make their case without taking things out of context or exaggerating. Please inform us.
The campaign is over, there's no need for salesmanship. What's the factual story?
You mean they want your money and will do anything to get it?
Not "anything". They will sell you an item you want. They will make it easy to buy and deliver it promptly and some of them will make it easy to return if you have a problem.
You don't have to fall for their diabolical schemes though. Don't buy that stuff. Only use items you find in dumpsters or on the side of the road.
...this is a large reason ...
The more important reason being that the appeals process takes a while, even in cases like this where a lower court ruling is clearly counter to the established case law. The order was upheld in Virginia on March 24th, so it will probably be headed to the Supreme Court.
Perhaps the Supreme Court will rule that foreign nationals on foreign soil enjoy rights under the US Constitution ... somehow. Or that laws and rulings and precedents that have applied to every other President and Presidential Administration don't apply this time ... for some reason. I'm guessing they won't.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration
Which of Trump's words express hatred in that statement? Please explain clearly and without exaggeration.
When all you have is a flamethrower, everything looks like a knot.
Read Trump's order.. It has somewhat similar wording.
And how is that consistent with it expiring after 90 days? And only including a small minority of Muslims? And changing to allow travel from previously-banned Iraq? Did Iraq stop being a Muslim country during those 2 weeks?
Probably it's the president's stated desire to ban Muslim immigrants that makes people think it's hateful bigotry.
Or maybe we shouldn't take him at his word?
Perhaps you'd like to furnish a direct, in context quotation of those words to support this?
Trump says lots of dumb stuff. Trump opponents also exaggerate.
I have no problem with hating racists.
Lots of haters have no problem hating whoever, because [reasons]. They should all stop being haters. Including you.
There's no point in singing kumbaya when half the country cheers ethnic "cleansing", meaning mass deportation and police-state harassment regular people.
If you're talking about the US, there's no "ethnic cleansing " in the US. Perhaps some of this hatred is because people like you make up or repeat false stories like this? There's also no "mass deportation" of "regular people".
Unfortunately, there is government harassment -- which is one reason why I support a smaller government with less power over people.
Yeah, it's hard to understand what makes a 90-day travel ban from a few places like Yemen, Iran, and Somalia "hate". (Especially when Iraq was dropped from the list of countries after working out vetting of travelers with the State Department.) Normally hatred isn't scheduled to expire after 3 months.
You have no problem with hatred, as long as it is directed towards whites.
Incorrect. Hatred directed towards whites is as bad as any other. People should stop encouraging it. If you wouldn't cheer at a Klan meeting, don't cheer at hatred directed towards whites.
But, the "OMG, look at what [Trump|Hillary] did today" that is all "social" media contains...
That's what the news media thinks is "news". Slashdot editors think that too.
Because large segments of society -- including "thought leaders" -- that used to be nominally against hate are now cheerleading for it.
The election was a good example, with one candidate bad-mouthing Mexicans and Muslims (in a way described by some as hateful) and the other directly calling Americans in the other party "enemies" and identifying a broad class of Americans as "irredeemable" and/or "deplorable".
If we don't want more hate, let's stop encouraging it.
The one saying "it shouldn't matter" is just wishing for something different than reality. Wishing is normal. Why wish for this specifically though? That's the part that's harder to understand.
The kid does have the wrong genes. They wanted their kid, they got somebody else's kid. It fucking matters!
More-or-less everyone understands this. And more-or-less everyone throughout history would understand this.
The people claiming this is "weird" or "fucked up" are either strange themselves, or they're pretending. Either way, they're pushing a moral or ethical idea that contradicts nature. They're going to need a better sales pitch.
How about communicating over extremely long distances without using extra power or keeping a directional antenna perfectly aimed?
I don't have any good predictions for the year 2047 on that subject.
And all the questions about why this matters are a sign of an open mind. But then the answers are about someone's feelings being validated, which isn't something I value.
It's not analogous because the person who "was caught stealing a car" actually died a long time ago. And you want me to distrust a completely different person because he won't jump through a specific hoop for you. (And there's no reason to trust a random person anyway, so it's a doubly strange concern.)