As a member of the Mnemonic project, I feel it necessary to rebut.
Mnemonic in it's current incarnation has been worked on for about a year, mostly by just ONE guy who also has a day job that takes a great deal of time.
He has been busy getting it to a stage where it will be open to the general public to get hacking on with a solid core foundation.
As I see it, the result is doubly impressive since it is largely the work of a single individual.
Once the current stage of development, nearing completion, is finished, I believe that developers will see the potential of the mnemonic architecture and wade in with a very fast development cycle for features.
The Linux community should let it be know that they do not accept this challenge from Mindcraft because that is what it is. (It's even being couched as such by Bruce on their website).
Mindcraft, it is clear are not, nor can they possibly be, an impartial third party for two reasons.
1. They are now a known Microsoft front. Their ability to be impartial and unbiased is completely compromised and now also, the public is aware of that.
2. In their view their credibility has been adversely impacted by the Linux community. They are in dispute of the facts of what has transpired. In a court of Law, for obvious reasons, one of the parties in a dispute, cannot also be the judge!
Any interaction with Mindcraft on this acts to validate them. This should not happen because simply, the reason their credibility is shot is because they have acted unprofessionally and in a biased fashion, misrepresented the very movement that they are now trying to court in order to regain some credibility.
It would be better, if some *trusted* parties engaged Microsoft and (say for example) RedHat labs to prepare some systems to go head to head... Leave MindCraft out of the loop entirely.
This would give us benchmarks to compare and in truth, I do think it's time to move from anecdotal to proper benchmark evidence to prove (or perhaps disprove) that Linux is a better performer. Should the results not favour Linux (unlikely in my mind) at least I'd be more trusting of them and they'd be easier to swallow.
I'm not afraid to know which is better, I'd just not trust MindCraft to truthfully tell me.
Well, mozilla will be included in HotDog,Homesite, Neoplanet, doczilla and quite a few other applications. That proves mozilla is very modular.
I don't see how this is so. In all my playing around with and reading about Mozilla I'm inclined to conclude that it aims to be yet another monolith that includes far too much functionality beyond what I want from my browser.
Those applications will simply be bigger monoliths that are a superset of mozilla.
On the other hand, I don't think we'll see mnemonic is any commercial web-based app.
Mnemonic is Free Software. When it releases, you may include it in a commercial application under the terms of the GPL. It's not aiming to be a commercial browser. In light of this, I'm afraid I don't quite understand your point.
If mnemonic is the only alternative to IE then people will prefer MS' license over the GPL
As well as being unfair (you're placing the fate of the GPL on the shoulders of the Mnemonic Project?) this comment shows a lack of understanding on your part of what Mnemonic is about.
Mnemonic is not in competition with any commercial or free software project. Our singular aim is to build an extensible technology that will allow us (as users of it) to do what *we* want with our browser (or ftp client or whatever) *when* we want it. That keeps the browser small, fast and completely under the user's control.
I mean no disrespect to the hardworking people on the mozilla project. I hope it succeeds almost as much as I hope Mnemonic succeeds.
It's a very big world out there, with plenty of room for any number of browsers and for freedom of choice for the end user to select the one which is best for them (MSIE included)
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As a member of the Mnemonic project, I feel it necessary to rebut.
Mnemonic in it's current incarnation has been worked on for about a year, mostly by just ONE guy who also has a day job that takes a great deal of time.
He has been busy getting it to a stage where it will be open to the general public to get hacking on with a solid core foundation.
As I see it, the result is doubly impressive since it is largely the work of a single individual.
Once the current stage of development, nearing completion, is finished, I believe that developers will see the potential of the mnemonic architecture and wade in with a very fast development cycle for features.
The Linux community should let it be know that they do not accept this challenge from Mindcraft because that is what it is. (It's even being couched as such by Bruce on their website).
Mindcraft, it is clear are not, nor can they possibly be, an impartial third party for two reasons.
1. They are now a known Microsoft front. Their ability to be impartial and unbiased is completely compromised and now also, the public is aware of that.
2. In their view their credibility has been adversely impacted by the Linux community. They are in dispute of the facts of what has transpired. In a court of Law, for obvious reasons, one of the parties in a dispute, cannot also be the judge!
Any interaction with Mindcraft on this acts to validate them. This should not happen because simply, the reason their credibility is shot is because they have acted unprofessionally and in a biased fashion, misrepresented the very movement that they are now trying to court in order to regain some credibility.
It would be better, if some *trusted* parties engaged Microsoft and (say for example) RedHat labs to prepare some systems to go head to head... Leave MindCraft out of the loop entirely.
This would give us benchmarks to compare and in truth, I do think it's time to move from anecdotal to proper benchmark evidence to prove (or perhaps disprove) that Linux is a better performer. Should the results not favour Linux (unlikely in my mind) at least I'd be more trusting of them and they'd be easier to swallow.
I'm not afraid to know which is better, I'd just not trust MindCraft to truthfully tell me.
Well, mozilla will be included in HotDog,Homesite, Neoplanet, doczilla and quite a few other applications. That proves mozilla is very modular.
I don't see how this is so. In all my playing around with and reading about Mozilla I'm inclined to conclude that it aims to be yet another monolith that includes far too much functionality beyond what I want from my browser.
Those applications will simply be bigger monoliths that are a superset of mozilla.
On the other hand, I don't think we'll see mnemonic is any commercial web-based app.
Mnemonic is Free Software. When it releases, you may include it in a commercial application under the terms of the GPL. It's not aiming to be a commercial browser. In light of this, I'm afraid I don't quite understand your point.
If mnemonic is the only alternative to IE then people will prefer MS' license over the GPL
As well as being unfair (you're placing the fate of the GPL on the shoulders of the Mnemonic Project?) this comment shows a lack of understanding on your part of what Mnemonic is about.
Mnemonic is not in competition with any commercial or free software project. Our singular aim is to build an extensible technology that will allow us (as users of it) to do what *we* want with our browser (or ftp client or whatever) *when* we want it. That keeps the browser small, fast and completely under the user's control.
I mean no disrespect to the hardworking people on the mozilla project. I hope it succeeds almost as much as I hope Mnemonic succeeds.
It's a very big world out there, with plenty of room for any number of browsers and for freedom of choice for the end user to select the one which is best for them (MSIE included)
Yours
Joe Vaughan
Project Coordinator
Mnemonic Project.