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  1. Re:OK, I'm a dunce. on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 3
    Slashdot is so funny. I get moderated to +4 for admitting I'm a dunce :-)

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    Bruce

  2. Re:That violates John Stuart Mill's liberalism max on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    Mill's not an absolute. Not every annoyance is harm because there is a level of annoyance that people tolerate in order to live in community. It's when you exceed that level that harm occurrs. If you bloody my nose, that's harm. If you wake me up at night once, you might be cursed out but not hauled to jail. Do it 10 times, and it's a different matter.

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    Bruce

  3. I have to agree. on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 5
    Signal-to-noise is a precious commodity. Of course, spam degrades it. If spammers ran rampant (more than they do today), I'd not be able to have this, an address that anybody in the world can use to reach me, even when I've never heard of you.

    It happens that if you write me and I'm not at home, I get your mail via Palm VII wirelessly. Whoever you are. Even if I've never heard of you. And sometimes, that matters to people.

    Spam really is a problem on the Palm, because it takes time to download it, there's only 2MB RAM so there's no space for it, and so on.

    So, I want to filter spam, and I want to deter spammers because deterrence is more effective than a filter. The RBL has been a positive force for me, it's kept the S/N to the point that I can read your mail.

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    Bruce

  4. Re:Exactly on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1

    My son's grandma is a webmaster.

  5. Re:Moderate UP, he's right! - Proof on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1
    Yeah, but I'd trust one from a customer wire more.

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    Bruce

  6. Re:Exactly on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    It's more likely that Grandma will stop using her email because of all those junk messages. Try this experiment. Register a 4-character name at some of the free mail services. Don't ever use it. See if it gets mail. It will! They are scanning aaaa to zzzz and farther.

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    Bruce

  7. Re:No, you don't have the right on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    Not in the town where I live, and not in the one where you live either. The principle is simple: your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. Where I live, I would call the police who would cite you under the noise ordinance, they would fine you and require you to fix the violation, and if you did not do so they would eventually get a court order. Then, if you violate the court order you are in contempt and can be jailed. That's the way the law works most places in the U.S.

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    Bruce

  8. Moderate down, I'm wrong. on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1
    Darn. I'm wrong. I typed in the wrong host. I'm human. Moderate down please.

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    Bruce

  9. Oops. Big oops. on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2

    It's marketingmasters.com, not mediamasters. I've led you astray. Sorry.

  10. OK, I'm a dunce. on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 3
    Bruce perens is human. I typed mediamasters instead of marketingmasters. I am getting to the marketingmasters class C through alter.net rather than above.net .

    Bruce

  11. Re:That doesn't prove anything on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1
    OK, publish the traceroute output so we can figure out where things stop.

    I don't believe so much in my own fame that I think Above.net has special rules in its routers for me. What a laugh!

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    Bruce

  12. Re:RBL - What a hosed concept on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    You don't have your name and email all over the web. Take pity on those who do and allow them some filters.

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    Bruce

  13. Re:services like this on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    That would be a good analogy if the problem was only within your house. A closer analogy here would be that your burglar alarm is going off at night and waking me up. Can I compel you to fix it? Yes.

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    Bruce

  14. Re:Exactly on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    Well, if nothing else you can get an email address somewhere else that circumvents the RBL. If you run your own MDA, you can get an MX somewhere else that circumvents the RBL. Go into business today providing spam-unfiltered email!

    Bruce

  15. Re:Look again on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1

    Look at the traceroute output I published above.

  16. Re:This isn't right on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 3

    traceroute to MediaMasters.com (204.101.215.149), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
    1 dnai-com.perens.com (216.15.108.185) 21.416 ms 0.832 ms 0.703 ms
    2 dnai-216-15-96-1.cust.dnai.com (216.15.96.1) 22.975 ms 12.134 ms 16.915 ms
    3 fe3-0-br-1.sjc.dnai.com (207.181.193.1) 22.722 ms 7.364 ms 7.759 ms
    4 main2-249-152.sjc.above.net (209.249.152.3) 20.723 ms 9.060 ms 7.091 ms
    5 core5-main2-oc3.sjc.above.net (216.200.0.205) 23.190 ms 7.470 ms 7.776 ms 6 core1-core5-oc48.sjc2.above.net (216.200.0.178) 23.403 ms 7.579 ms 7.755 ms
    7 ord-sjc-oc12.ord.above.net (207.126.96.117) 67.590 ms 67.780 ms 68.573 ms 8 POS12-0-0.GW2.CHI6.ALTER.NET (157.130.111.89) 70.829 ms 69.470 ms 69.189 ms
    9 112.ATM3-0.XR1.CHI6.ALTER.NET (146.188.208.186) 69.099 ms 67.905 ms 69.813 ms
    10 291.ATM2-0.TR1.CHI4.ALTER.NET (146.188.208.250) 94.485 ms 95.112 ms 93.882 ms
    11 106.ATM7-0.TR1.TOR2.ALTER.NET (146.188.142.74) 95.481 ms 102.600 ms 99.372 ms
    12 299.ATM7-0.XR1.TOR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.129.149) 103.557 ms 98.535 ms 98.082 ms
    13 190.ATM7-0.GW1.TOR3.ALTER.NET (152.63.129.233) 98.190 ms 100.049 ms 98.933 ms
    14 205.150.221.230 (205.150.221.230) 114.641 ms 100.628 ms 103.484 ms
    15 mediamasters (204.101.215.149) 102.729 ms 101.457 ms 101.752 ms

    So, it's not happening here.

  17. Re:A compelling argument... on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    If you pay that much, you can put an SMTP MX agent somewhere that doesn't blackhole routes.

    Again, I am not getting routes blackholed through Above.net today. I can click on those links and see them. Traceroute tells me I'm going through above.net .

    Bruce

  18. Re:That was the old system on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1
    No. I clicked on that list of links and viewed the pages. I ran traceroute and saw that I was getting to them through above.net .

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    Bruce

  19. Re:services like this on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 2
    How else do you get the people with bad relays to fix them?

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    Bruce

  20. Re:Exactly on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 3
    And then, you can turn the RBL off. Victims of Censorware can't turn it off because they aren't allowed to do so.

    Bruce

  21. This isn't right on MAPS RBL Is Now Censorware (Updated) · · Score: 1
    Perens.com goes through Above.net to get to most of the net. I can get to the RBL-ed sites just fine. The only thing those sites can't do is deliver me mail.

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    Bruce

  22. Re:Suuuuure Re:Plex86 vs. VMWare on Ask Kevin Lawton About Plex86 · · Score: 2
    It's a little late to reply, but I think it has to do with a few different factors:

    • People like the quid-pro-quo of the GPL.
    • Great hackers respect Linus and rally around him.
    • Linux got there first.

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    Bruce

  23. Re:Are you endangering commercial software on Linu on Ask Kevin Lawton About Plex86 · · Score: 2
    If commercial software is not able to compete with a free project, the commercial vendor should find something else to do. We do not owe commercial software vendors a living. We shouldn't refrain from creating free software just because "it could drive them away". If we have to do that, we really don't need them anyway. But the fact is that commercial vendors can do lots of things that you probably won't see as free software. This just wasn't one of them - we do systems programming really well. There's even talk that VMWare started with Kevin's work as a base, in which case he'd hardly be obligated to protect them.

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    Bruce

  24. Fan Mail on Ask Kevin Lawton About Plex86 · · Score: 1
    What a great project. You guys are excellent. That's all I had to say.

    Bruce

  25. Re:Plex86 vs. VMWare on Ask Kevin Lawton About Plex86 · · Score: 4
    If a commercial vendor can't do better than the free project, the commercial vendor should pack up their tents and find something else to do. Free enterprise includes the concept of competition, you know :-) Nobody guarantees you a living.

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    Bruce