"Er, that's from the Iranian president. I'm not sure what relevance this has to the Palestine situation."
It's also mainstream Palestinian belief.
Cite ANY proof of that. Jesus, you get caught out with your "they all look the same to me" stance and then continue to lie. Have SOME respect for the truth.
That is pure Bullshit. There has never been an acceptable offer proposed. The last "we offered them everything they wanted" rhetoric from the US ignored the fact that the solution didn't give Palestine back most of it's confiscated land, left Israel with control over strategic assets (like all of Palestine's water), left Israel with all the good land in the area and offered no solution at all to the control of Jerusalam. Just repeating the slogans of politicians with axes to grind does not make their soundbites true.
Perhaps if you'd had you land stolen, if you'd been rounded up in ghettos and marginalised, had all your resources controlled by an enemy that appears to want you wiped off the face of the earth then perhaps you might understand why the Palestinians feel they have reason to fight. Remember, Palestinians didn't come to the land of the Israelis and disposess and attack *them* - it actually happened the other way around.
I think you are confusing Hamas with Palestine, but accuracy in pointing out your enemy doesn't seem to be a strong US trait. They're all wogs - kill em all eh?
I'll run through this one more time for you. Slower still, I guess.
I said:
"I'd argue that it would be good for the world if they became just an ordinary country rather than a wanna-be global cop."
You said:
"You could argue that... You'd be so wrong it's not funny and showing your complete ignorance of 20th century history... but you could argue that."
I replied:
"...only if you can show that one can dislike US foriegn policy if and only if they're ignorant of 20th Century history, which you clearly cannot. It's an utterly ridiculous inference."
You *still* have failed to make any kind of cogent response to that. You've blustered a lot and OOOOHH made me a "foe". Very reasonable response.
Plenty of people dislike US foreign policy without being idiots. Only an idiot would claim otherwise.
Then explain why the near 100% accuracy of exits polls across nations, political systems and through history suddenly takes a detour in 2004 in the US? Why is that the ONLY deviation?
Yes, I'm calling you a moron. I didn't vote for either candidate and I don't give a fuck about your partisan politics. IMO the whole US electorial system is screwed since you only have two slightly different version of the same party.
Which is what makes it so ridiculous that you get so upset about things that are supposedly supposed to support one side or another. From my point of view, I struggle to tell the difference.
No, why I call you a moron is that any American (home of brand 'Democracy') who doesn't care to uphold the Democratic process is a hypocrite and a moron.
*You* are the idiot. Extract your head from the sand. The odds of the exit polls being as far out as they were is statistically impossible. Either explain the anomoly or give up all pretense of being unbiased.
...only if you can show that one can dislike US foriegn policy if and only if they're ignorant of 20th Century history, which you clearly cannot. It's an utterly ridiculous inference.
I understand why states sponser science, I don't understand why any individual geek should care whether science is done in the US, UK, USSR or any other place in the world. As long as we all stand on the shoulders of others, it's all the same to me.
So? I don't care if the US remains a superpower. I'd argue that it would be good for the world if they became just an ordinary country rather than a wanna-be global cop.
Oh piss off newb. When I was a kid, "hackers" hacked into systems and "crackers" cracked programs to defeat copy protection. Just because you facists decided you could tell everyone else that those words have different meanings, doesn't mean everyone else has to follow.
Slashdot Mirror
"Er, that's from the Iranian president. I'm not sure what relevance this has to the Palestine situation."
It's also mainstream Palestinian belief.
Cite ANY proof of that. Jesus, you get caught out with your "they all look the same to me" stance and then continue to lie. Have SOME respect for the truth.
..and they've been fighting for their land continuously since '67. What's your point?
That is pure Bullshit. There has never been an acceptable offer proposed. The last "we offered them everything they wanted" rhetoric from the US ignored the fact that the solution didn't give Palestine back most of it's confiscated land, left Israel with control over strategic assets (like all of Palestine's water), left Israel with all the good land in the area and offered no solution at all to the control of Jerusalam. Just repeating the slogans of politicians with axes to grind does not make their soundbites true.
Perhaps if you'd had you land stolen, if you'd been rounded up in ghettos and marginalised, had all your resources controlled by an enemy that appears to want you wiped off the face of the earth then perhaps you might understand why the Palestinians feel they have reason to fight. Remember, Palestinians didn't come to the land of the Israelis and disposess and attack *them* - it actually happened the other way around.
I think you are confusing Hamas with Palestine, but accuracy in pointing out your enemy doesn't seem to be a strong US trait. They're all wogs - kill em all eh?
Your empathy overwhelms me. I'm always impressed with American's capacity for hatred of their fellow man.
You are a moron. Goodbye.
*sigh*
I'll run through this one more time for you. Slower still, I guess.
I said:
"I'd argue that it would be good for the world if they became just an ordinary country rather than a wanna-be global cop."
You said:
"You could argue that... You'd be so wrong it's not funny and showing your complete ignorance of 20th century history... but you could argue that."
I replied:
"...only if you can show that one can dislike US foriegn policy if and only if they're ignorant of 20th Century history, which you clearly cannot. It's an utterly ridiculous inference."
You *still* have failed to make any kind of cogent response to that. You've blustered a lot and OOOOHH made me a "foe". Very reasonable response.
Plenty of people dislike US foreign policy without being idiots. Only an idiot would claim otherwise.
Norway, Denmark and Finland are some of the strongest economies in the world - they top those lists you provide, and they're highly taxed.
Quite. And the best performing economies in the world: the Scandanvian economies - are all very highly-taxed. The low-tax kool aide is a load of BS.
You are a moron. Learn how to state an argument clearly and brush up on logic - both clearly escape you.
Then explain why the near 100% accuracy of exits polls across nations, political systems and through history suddenly takes a detour in 2004 in the US? Why is that the ONLY deviation?
Yes, I'm calling you a moron. I didn't vote for either candidate and I don't give a fuck about your partisan politics. IMO the whole US electorial system is screwed since you only have two slightly different version of the same party.
Which is what makes it so ridiculous that you get so upset about things that are supposedly supposed to support one side or another. From my point of view, I struggle to tell the difference.
No, why I call you a moron is that any American (home of brand 'Democracy') who doesn't care to uphold the Democratic process is a hypocrite and a moron.
This is clearly difficult for you. I'll write it slowly:
You
Need
To
Show
that one can dislike US foriegn policy if and only if they're ignorant of 20th Century history...
which you clearly cannot.
Nice rant, but it didn't answer my point at all.
You're right! RFK is a rat so statistics are no longer meaningful!
Moron. Wanting fair elections is politically neutral (unless you're afraid of the truth)
That was NOT an exit poll.
*You* are the idiot. Extract your head from the sand. The odds of the exit polls being as far out as they were is statistically impossible. Either explain the anomoly or give up all pretense of being unbiased.
...only if you can show that one can dislike US foriegn policy if and only if they're ignorant of 20th Century history, which you clearly cannot. It's an utterly ridiculous inference.
I understand why states sponser science, I don't understand why any individual geek should care whether science is done in the US, UK, USSR or any other place in the world. As long as we all stand on the shoulders of others, it's all the same to me.
Warning! Knee-jerk reactionism!
Not liking US foreign policy is not at all "US HATE MONGERING".
Or are you another one of these morons who can't see a world were people aren't either entirely with you or entirely against you?
So? I don't care if the US remains a superpower. I'd argue that it would be good for the world if they became just an ordinary country rather than a wanna-be global cop.
Oh piss off newb. When I was a kid, "hackers" hacked into systems and "crackers" cracked programs to defeat copy protection. Just because you facists decided you could tell everyone else that those words have different meanings, doesn't mean everyone else has to follow.
Ohio and Delaware aren't countries you fucktard
Well... it was still won by New Zealanders :o)