Here's what I say to all you paranoid conspiracy freaks..
go ahead and encrypt your dang traffic. The Internet companies don't really care about the CONTENT of your traffic.
Rather, they want to know what TYPE of traffic you're using - file transfer, web browsing, voice, video.
You think I'm wrong that they don't care about your content. I'm sure you think I'm wrong - because every one of you posting on this thread is f*cking paranoid.
But I can tell you first hand - they don't give a damn.
You also don't want them using DPI to sell you stuff, or to hinder access to competing products.
Fine.. they all provide opt-out capabilities for sales pitches.. and simple legislation would suffice to keep them from slowing down, say, skype, on their network.
They can do many legit things with this data. For example..
1. Yes, they can set the QoS for you, so that video and voice can be allocated high priority, low latency resources, while file transfers can be assigned to more appropriate resources.
2. They can trend the patterns of traffic in their network, fine tuning it for the type of data being sent, and adding capacity prior to bottlenecks occurring.
3. They can more precisely understand events on their network - e.g., associating the release of a new version of some browser, or video player, or VOIP tool, or social website, etc. with a sudden rise in traffic on their network.
For them, it is all about understanding what TYPES of applications run over their network. It is NOT about reading your email or facebook profile - they really couldn't give a sh*t about that.
So, DPI technology has the potential for abuse? Sure.. and I'm sure some countries will try to take advantage of that.
Does that frighten you? OK.. then by all means, go ahead and use encryption and port hopping !!! Contrary to what 99.99% of you on this board believe - encryption and port hopping won't prevent DPI and similar technologies from identifying WHAT you're doing. It does hide the content, for sure - which is what you want, right?
So, buzz off already about this net neuter stuff. You can have your privacy. The companies can have their trending analysis tools. These things are NOT mutually exclusive.
This is my favorite vim trick: install vimperator into firefox. It brings vim to your browsing experience. Throw your mouse away! I *LOVE* vimperator!!! Get it at..
(beware: my only gripe with vimperator is it, by default, completely hides firefox's menus (!). There is a simple way to bring them back. Look for this info in the docs before you install it)
You people make me sick. You are totally clueless.
Every time an article like this comes out you all spew your worst bile at the ISPs as if they were more evil than Hitler. You jump to conclusions quicker than a liberal dem at an anti-capitalism rally. You type your responses at your keyboards in your mother's basements quicker than Ernie Pyle could wire home a report from the trenches.
I got some news for you all..
The ISPs *do* add capacity. They add it at a pretty steady rate, whether you care to admit it or not - they *do* add bandwidth on behalf of their users.
It is a myth that they use P2P throttling to avoid adding capacity altogether. They simply want to add capacity in a controlled manner. Allowing the P2P users dictate when they need to add capacity is foolish, is bad business, is wasteful, and is an example of the tail wagging the dog.
And, for those of you who think throttling doesn't occur in Europe or Asia - my god, that only confirms just how much you are blinded by yur own passionate, yet misguided, ideas of the world. My advice to you is.. venture out of your mother's basement and see the real world for once in your life.
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Here's what I say to all you paranoid conspiracy freaks ..
go ahead and encrypt your dang traffic. The Internet companies don't really care about the CONTENT of your traffic.
Rather, they want to know what TYPE of traffic you're using - file transfer, web browsing, voice, video.
You think I'm wrong that they don't care about your content. I'm sure you think I'm wrong - because every one of you posting on this thread is f*cking paranoid.
But I can tell you first hand - they don't give a damn.
You also don't want them using DPI to sell you stuff, or to hinder access to competing products.
Fine .. they all provide opt-out capabilities for sales pitches .. and simple legislation would suffice to keep them from slowing down, say, skype, on their network.
They can do many legit things with this data. For example ..
1. Yes, they can set the QoS for you, so that video and voice can be allocated high priority, low latency resources, while file transfers can be assigned to more appropriate resources.
2. They can trend the patterns of traffic in their network, fine tuning it for the type of data being sent, and adding capacity prior to bottlenecks occurring.
3. They can more precisely understand events on their network - e.g., associating the release of a new version of some browser, or video player, or VOIP tool, or social website, etc. with a sudden rise in traffic on their network.
For them, it is all about understanding what TYPES of applications run over their network. It is NOT about reading your email or facebook profile - they really couldn't give a sh*t about that.
So, DPI technology has the potential for abuse? Sure .. and I'm sure some countries will try to take advantage of that.
Does that frighten you? OK .. then by all means, go ahead and use encryption and port hopping !!! Contrary to what 99.99% of you on this board believe - encryption and port hopping won't prevent DPI and similar technologies from identifying WHAT you're doing. It does hide the content, for sure - which is what you want, right?
So, buzz off already about this net neuter stuff. You can have your privacy. The companies can have their trending analysis tools. These things are NOT mutually exclusive.
This is my favorite vim trick: install vimperator into firefox. It brings vim to your browsing experience. Throw your mouse away! I *LOVE* vimperator!!! Get it at ..
http://vimperator.org/trac/wiki/Vimperator
(beware: my only gripe with vimperator is it, by default, completely hides firefox's menus (!). There is a simple way to bring them back. Look for this info in the docs before you install it)
You people make me sick. You are totally clueless.
..
.. venture out of your mother's basement and see the real world for once in your life.
Every time an article like this comes out you all spew your worst bile at the ISPs as if they were more evil than Hitler. You jump to conclusions quicker than a liberal dem at an anti-capitalism rally. You type your responses at your keyboards in your mother's basements quicker than Ernie Pyle could wire home a report from the trenches.
I got some news for you all
The ISPs *do* add capacity. They add it at a pretty steady rate, whether you care to admit it or not - they *do* add bandwidth on behalf of their users.
It is a myth that they use P2P throttling to avoid adding capacity altogether. They simply want to add capacity in a controlled manner. Allowing the P2P users dictate when they need to add capacity is foolish, is bad business, is wasteful, and is an example of the tail wagging the dog.
And, for those of you who think throttling doesn't occur in Europe or Asia - my god, that only confirms just how much you are blinded by yur own passionate, yet misguided, ideas of the world. My advice to you is