copied the Mac OS model, since they are both based on the same processor.
I don't know how Palm could have gotten away with it without paying money to Apple. Maybe they are both based on a standard Motorola programaming model?
There are huge similarities between the original PalmOS design and the original Mac OS design. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of the same people were involved, or else the Palm OS team were big Mac fans.
DDT - you're right, broad spectrum pesticides are a problem.
My main complaint about the modern world-wide ban of DDT is complete - it bans exterior and interior use. But DDT *is* quite safe compared to other interior insecticides. Banning its use condemns many 3rd world countries to annual epidemics of malaria.
Condemning people to suffer and die because you fear they might cheat and use DDT on their crops instead of their homes is incredibly inhumane.
then we have much bigger problems than losing seconds on the atomic clocks. Basic things like our understanding of atomic structure and radioactivity would have to be rewritten.
Certainly additional heat (up to a point) will contribute to increased microflora and fauna in the water which will attract insects and small fish, etc.. Especially when the rest of the river is too cold to support much life. OTOH, it disrupts the normal rhythms of the river and may allow certain species to survive that might otherwise not live in the river.
In a sense, it's like putting out a bird feeder during the winter - it attracts extra birds but also disrupts the surrounding ecosystem and makes the birds dependent on the artificial food supply.
First - the scientific method wasn't invented till, say the 15th or 16th century. By what standard are you holding the Romans?
Second - yeah, they did eat it. And suffered no ill effects. DDT hasn't been shown to have any serious effect on humans, although I did see one report claiming liver damage after prolonged exposure (which makes sense since the liver is the organ that would be cleaning the DDT break down products from the body).
All harm vanished when exposure to DDT ceased. No cancer. No long therm effects.
And, yeah, the Patuxent group did the research that Silent Spring cites.
Basically, you've got one guy doing one study. It's a good direction for further research, but it's not conclusive proof - he never explained the mechanism by which DDT might be causing the problem.
The change in cancer rate corresponds to an extra 2500 cancer cases across the entire united states, maybe 5-6 times that across the world. Even if you're right and those cases (not deaths) were caused by pollution, they have to be balanced against the hundreds of thousands of lives saved by the green revolution, stopping malaria, preventing food poisoning and everything else industrialization has brought us - including your ability to post on this forum.
First you tell me I'm wrong to say that asthma is an immune disorder because one web site says we don't what causes asthma. When I bring you to task for that, you give me another page of assertions that asthma is caused by air pollution.
You must have searched a while for that one, because while there's a ton of evidence that air pollution can trigger asthma attacks, that's a far cry from saying that pollution causes the disease.
In fact, if you're worried about my "assertion" that there is no correlation between between pollution and asthma. Well, doctorsspecializing in asthma research agree with me.
So, a couple of modern people claiming the romans only used lead pipes weigh more than a roman architect himself saying "terra cotta is preferred because lead is said to be hurtful." I also like how you apparently didn't read your own cites: Eventually, as a host of mysterious maladies became more common, some Romans began to suspect a connection between the metal and these illnesses.. I will admit that later in the page it says that the Romans continued to use lead for wine and water even after figuring this out. I also have to say I didn't know about the adding of lead to wine to "sweeten" it, though. But if that cite is right, wouldn't that imply that all of Europe suffered from lead poisoning right down through the middle ages?
I like the personal attack, too. Ran out of facts, did we? I have to say your rebuttal to my link hardly bears scrutiny. First, your one cite is an undergrad's homework. Second, neither is "Molecule of the Day" a canonical scientific reference. In addition, Risebough is wrong, right from the start. Eagle populations were already recovering *before* DDT was banned - thus the frequently made argument that DDT pushed the eagle to near-extinction is false on its face.
Interestingly, though, he states that DDT/DDE does not affect all bird species. That's an interesting argument, I'll have to read some of the papers he cites.
Just because mercury poisoning has superficially similar symptoms to autism does *not* mean the minute amount of mercury used to sterlize vaccines causes autism.
Quick question: How many "silver" fillings do you have? I bet you have enough mercury in your mouth right now to sterilize a thousand doses MMR vaccine.
Did they ban suing the vaccine companies? Yes. Why? Because companies have stopped making vaccines for fear of being turned into another Corning - run into bankruptcy by lawyers using junk science and scare tactics.
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You might get it - or at least a light sentence.
Yeah, Lisa was a flop - but Lisa built the foundation for the Mac.
As for Newton - how was that a flop? It still has fanatical fans.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
copied the Mac OS model, since they are both based on the same processor.
I don't know how Palm could have gotten away with it without paying money to Apple. Maybe they are both based on a standard Motorola programaming model?
There are huge similarities between the original PalmOS design and the original Mac OS design. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of the same people were involved, or else the Palm OS team were big Mac fans.
DDT - you're right, broad spectrum pesticides are a problem.
My main complaint about the modern world-wide ban of DDT is complete - it bans exterior and interior use. But DDT *is* quite safe compared to other interior insecticides. Banning its use condemns many 3rd world countries to annual epidemics of malaria.
Condemning people to suffer and die because you fear they might cheat and use DDT on their crops instead of their homes is incredibly inhumane.
you see, new suckers are being born every minute.
In the USA, 3 stories is grounds for a class action suit.
solid, not just with theory but with lots of observational evidence.
Dang. Discover is reporting space is smooth, while SciAm features an article on how space is discrete and quantum in nature.
then we have much bigger problems than losing seconds on the atomic clocks. Basic things like our understanding of atomic structure and radioactivity would have to be rewritten.
Certainly additional heat (up to a point) will contribute to increased microflora and fauna in the water which will attract insects and small fish, etc.. Especially when the rest of the river is too cold to support much life. OTOH, it disrupts the normal rhythms of the river and may allow certain species to survive that might otherwise not live in the river.
In a sense, it's like putting out a bird feeder during the winter - it attracts extra birds but also disrupts the surrounding ecosystem and makes the birds dependent on the artificial food supply.
The water being returned *is* warm and has been accused of disrupting habitat (by warming the river) but it's not "vary hot".
What do you think the monster cooling towers are for?
Subaru has offered OnStar since 2001
that didn't have all the *germs* (not chemicals) washed off them and which ended up in the salsa at a mexican restaurant.
First - the scientific method wasn't invented till, say the 15th or 16th century. By what standard are you holding the Romans?
Second - yeah, they did eat it. And suffered no ill effects. DDT hasn't been shown to have any serious effect on humans, although I did see one report claiming liver damage after prolonged exposure (which makes sense since the liver is the organ that would be cleaning the DDT break down products from the body).
All harm vanished when exposure to DDT ceased. No cancer. No long therm effects.
That refers to the well established claim that pollutants irritate existing cases of *asthma*, not that ozone causes the disease.
Thank you for playing.
As opposed to the millions of people benefiting from flame retardants and DDT, which was the subject under discussion.
That refers to the well established claim that pollutants irritate existing cases of ozone, not that ozone causes the disease.
Thank you for playing.
And, yeah, the Patuxent group did the research that Silent Spring cites.
Basically, you've got one guy doing one study. It's a good direction for further research, but it's not conclusive proof - he never explained the mechanism by which DDT might be causing the problem.
The change in cancer rate corresponds to an extra 2500 cancer cases across the entire united states, maybe 5-6 times that across the world. Even if you're right and those cases (not deaths) were caused by pollution, they have to be balanced against the hundreds of thousands of lives saved by the green revolution, stopping malaria, preventing food poisoning and everything else industrialization has brought us - including your ability to post on this forum.
First you tell me I'm wrong to say that asthma is an immune disorder because one web site says we don't what causes asthma. When I bring you to task for that, you give me another page of assertions that asthma is caused by air pollution.
You must have searched a while for that one, because while there's a ton of evidence that air pollution can trigger asthma attacks, that's a far cry from saying that pollution causes the disease.
In fact, if you're worried about my "assertion" that there is no correlation between between pollution and asthma. Well, doctors specializing in asthma research agree with me.
So, a couple of modern people claiming the romans only used lead pipes weigh more than a roman architect himself saying "terra cotta is preferred because lead is said to be hurtful." I also like how you apparently didn't read your own cites: Eventually, as a host of mysterious maladies became more common, some Romans began to suspect a connection between the metal and these illnesses.. I will admit that later in the page it says that the Romans continued to use lead for wine and water even after figuring this out. I also have to say I didn't know about the adding of lead to wine to "sweeten" it, though. But if that cite is right, wouldn't that imply that all of Europe suffered from lead poisoning right down through the middle ages?
I like the personal attack, too. Ran out of facts, did we? I have to say your rebuttal to my link hardly bears scrutiny. First, your one cite is an undergrad's homework. Second, neither is "Molecule of the Day" a canonical scientific reference. In addition, Risebough is wrong, right from the start. Eagle populations were already recovering *before* DDT was banned - thus the frequently made argument that DDT pushed the eagle to near-extinction is false on its face.
Interestingly, though, he states that DDT/DDE does not affect all bird species. That's an interesting argument, I'll have to read some of the papers he cites.
If a recreation site and a random AOL user say it's true, it must be true!
Just because mercury poisoning has superficially similar symptoms to autism does *not* mean the minute amount of mercury used to sterlize vaccines causes autism.
Quick question: How many "silver" fillings do you have? I bet you have enough mercury in your mouth right now to sterilize a thousand doses MMR vaccine.
Did they ban suing the vaccine companies? Yes. Why? Because companies have stopped making vaccines for fear of being turned into another Corning - run into bankruptcy by lawyers using junk science and scare tactics.