Given RXC's previous experience at Apple and in the PC Community, I am curious to hear his opinion on how Mac and Linux Communities work together to cross-pollinate and develop synergistically. Will MacOS X with its Mach/BSD foundation help bring Mac into the Unix fold, or will Linux have to make more effort?
As an attendee of MacHack for several years, I would not take the tension between Eric Raymond and several other other attendees to reflect all Macintosh developers in general. Eric made many points, which everyone agreed with, but when it came to discussing the economics of open-source vs. closed-source proprietary applications, people questioned whether Eric defend his views in the marketplace. The Macintosh community is on the verge of a transition from the old MacOS 9 to the new Mac OS 10 (X), which is unix based, but developers are just now getting their hands on the API's released at WWDC. When MacOSX is shipped with new machines, beginning early next year, probably January, I expect that many apps on MacOS9 will be "carbonized", so they will run well with the new OS. So far, Apple has placed OS Core, Darwin, under open-source licensing, and has a team of 4 people overseeing the project. I would expect that other projects, e.g. web browsers, will be ripe for open-source, but remember that Apple will still use a lot of proprietary graphic libraries, from Quartz to Quicktime. In addition, much of the NextStep frameworks will be available via the Cocoa libraries, but be prepared to learn Objective-C in order to use it. Unfortunately, it looks like that C++ will not have an open framework available, outside of Metrowerks's PowerPlant. Most new apps will be written in Java or Objective C if they use Cocoa, and will use the Carbon frameworks, if they use C++. I expect the transition to MacOS X and Unix will take at least 3-6 months for most conventional apps, although the effort to make a Carbon app will be less than expected. If open - source projects want to be successful, they need to mobilize their resources quickly, and work effectively with user groups. As for tools, most of Apple's tools are based on gcc, and the other GNU tools, with GUI based IDE tools built along side. If you to get involved, sign up for a Select developer membership, sign your NDA for now, and apple will get you all the tools you need to get started. Codewarrior remains an important tool for Mac, but Visual Studio has very little value on the present or future platform. The advice I have is to remember the golden Rule when dealing with other developers, as everyone has mouths to feed and bills to pay.
Without trying to recompile all the great scientists and inventors and others, which has been done already very well by A&E with their Biography's special, I would like to consider those geeks post 1984: Linus Torvalds - who gave us Linux, which defines the post-PC Era. Tim Berners-Lee - a physicist, who was the use of the ARPAnet for something more. Marc Andreessen - who wrote a small inconsequential browser, that woke up Bill Gates, and might prove his downfall. Steve Jobs - not for the Macintosh, or Apple, but for his work at NEXT and Pixar, in bringing Hollywood and Disney to the computer community. Bezos at Amazon - Showing us that Marketing on the Internet matters Richard Stallman - who began the vision for Open Source programming with GNU. But that is just a beginning.
NASA has been one of the driving forces of the new technology age. Imagine if Microsoft or Intel had been developed with goverment grants, and then told that the profits were not theirs to keep. To say the least, Bill Gates would not be the man he is today. To the point, NASA has a coalition of technology companies, which are administered by United Space Agency (AKA USA), which been the core drivers and competitors. If we really want to reach the Moon again, let alone Mars, we need to built a self-sustaining enterprise, that does not have to rely political whim for their annual budgets. Back to Microsoft, "Oh, I am sorry Mr. Gates we don't think GUI OS's like Windows or Windows NT are both necessary, why don't you pick one for this grant period, and we reconsider the other in 3 - 5 years."
the IPO will be offered through Goldman-Sach (which deals mainly with businesses, and wealthy individual's, e. g. Bill or Steve or Paul), eTrade, and atleast one other underwriter/brokerage firm. For individuals on slashdot, you probably want to go to eTrade, and look in their IPO center. In order to do so, you have to have an active account, i.e. make a deposit of atleast $1000, and then you have to submit investor profile, regarding your investment goals, and risk preferences. If you meet their guidelines, you will be allowed to possibly participate. If so, then you have to say how many shares you want to purchase, and what your top price would be. Usually, they like you to hold your shares for atleast 30 days before you sell them. Also, this investment is very risky, highly speculative, if for the short term. There is no guerantee that you will make a profit. See the PR at Red Hat for their info re prospectus. If you want to make a quick buck, remember TANSTAAFL!
Slashdot Mirror
Building Rumors, Fooling Slashdot
http://lowendmac.com/rumormill/2k0818.html
You know things are wierd, when then the fake rumors start sounding
good, if not hilarious.
Ah yes, the iMac SEvil @ 666MHz available in Black with Red Flames
or the Bill Gates model with limbo blue clouds motif.
Given RXC's previous experience at Apple and in the PC Community, I am curious to hear his opinion on how Mac and Linux Communities work together to cross-pollinate and develop synergistically. Will MacOS X with its Mach/BSD foundation help bring Mac into the Unix fold, or will Linux have to make more effort?
As an attendee of MacHack for several years, I would not take the tension between Eric Raymond and several other other attendees to reflect all Macintosh developers in general. Eric made many points, which everyone agreed with, but when it came to discussing the economics of open-source vs. closed-source proprietary applications, people questioned whether Eric defend his views in the marketplace.
The Macintosh community is on the verge of a transition from the old MacOS 9 to the new Mac OS 10 (X), which is unix based, but developers are just now getting their hands on the API's released at WWDC. When MacOSX is shipped with new machines, beginning early next year, probably January, I expect that many apps on MacOS9 will be "carbonized", so they will run well with the new OS. So far, Apple has placed OS Core, Darwin, under open-source licensing, and has a team of 4 people overseeing the project.
I would expect that other projects, e.g. web browsers, will be ripe for open-source, but remember that Apple will still use a lot of proprietary graphic libraries, from Quartz to Quicktime. In addition, much of the NextStep frameworks will be available via the Cocoa libraries, but be prepared to learn Objective-C
in order to use it.
Unfortunately, it looks like that C++ will not have an open framework available, outside of Metrowerks's PowerPlant. Most new apps will be written in Java or Objective C if they use Cocoa, and will use the Carbon frameworks, if they use C++.
I expect the transition to MacOS X and Unix will take at least 3-6 months for most conventional apps, although the effort to make a Carbon app will be less than expected. If open - source projects want to be successful, they need to mobilize their resources quickly, and work effectively with user groups.
As for tools, most of Apple's tools are based on gcc, and the other GNU tools, with GUI based IDE tools built along side. If you to get involved, sign up for a Select developer membership, sign your NDA for now, and apple will get you all the tools you need to get started. Codewarrior remains an important tool for Mac, but Visual Studio has very little value on the present or future platform.
The advice I have is to remember the golden Rule when dealing with other developers, as everyone has mouths to feed and bills to pay.
I know there is a Quicktime client for RedHat, because I have used it. It may not be at apple.com, but I would check RedHat and elsewhere.
Quicktime TV server and a quicktime client are both available for linux and the former is OSS'd. Just check out Darwin site.
MT
Without trying to recompile all the great scientists and inventors and others, which has been done already very well by A&E with their Biography's special, I would like to consider those geeks post 1984:
Linus Torvalds - who gave us Linux, which defines the post-PC Era.
Tim Berners-Lee - a physicist, who was the use of the ARPAnet for something more.
Marc Andreessen - who wrote a small inconsequential browser, that woke up Bill Gates, and might prove his downfall.
Steve Jobs - not for the Macintosh, or Apple, but for his work at NEXT and Pixar, in bringing Hollywood and Disney to the computer community.
Bezos at Amazon - Showing us that Marketing on the Internet matters
Richard Stallman - who began the vision for Open Source programming with GNU.
But that is just a beginning.
NASA has been one of the driving forces of the new technology age. Imagine if Microsoft or Intel had been developed with goverment grants, and then told that the profits were not theirs to keep. To say the least, Bill Gates would not be the man he is today.
To the point, NASA has a coalition of technology companies, which are administered by United Space Agency (AKA USA), which been the core drivers and competitors. If we really want to reach the Moon again, let alone Mars, we need to built a self-sustaining enterprise, that does not have to rely political whim for their annual budgets.
Back to Microsoft, "Oh, I am sorry Mr. Gates we don't think GUI OS's like Windows or Windows NT are both necessary, why don't you pick one for this grant period, and we reconsider the other in 3 - 5 years."
the IPO will be offered through Goldman-Sach (which deals mainly with businesses, and wealthy individual's, e. g. Bill or Steve or Paul), eTrade, and atleast one other underwriter/brokerage firm. For individuals on slashdot, you probably want to go to eTrade, and look in their IPO center. In order to do so, you have to have an active account, i.e. make a deposit of atleast $1000, and then you have to submit investor profile, regarding your investment goals, and risk preferences. If you meet their guidelines, you will be allowed to possibly participate. If so, then you have to say how many shares you want to purchase, and what your top price would be. Usually, they like you to hold your shares for atleast 30 days before you sell them. Also, this investment is very risky, highly speculative, if for the short term. There is no guerantee that you will make a profit. See the PR at Red Hat for their info re prospectus. If you want to make a quick buck, remember TANSTAAFL!