People have been buying and selling characters on MUDS for years. More frequently, people pay (donate) the operator for special favors. Since UO (and now everquest) are subscription based (you pay to play) People are spending money to not have to spend money and time on those boring early levels.
I personally enjoy the games too much to buy my levels, but hey, people are idiots.
Try seeing what happens when your raid-5 (hardware or software) gets shutdown uncleanly. Say, 50gig? 100gig? Thats SMALL, folks... so why does it take hours to bring linux back up?
It's being worked on, but let's not cite vaporware, thats a Micros~1 trick. When the raid cleaning + filesystem check for a half terr finishes in a matter of minutes, go ahead and trumpet it. But until then, anyone who knows better will happily correct you, and make linux look bad in the process.
Of course, on the bright side, Linux dosn't crash often enough to make this a concern. But when it does, it takes quite a while to recover.
You have just had an emotional reaction, and not a logical one. You are so desperate to blame someone, be it guns, internet, games, peers, parents, whatever... that you miss some critical factors.
Check the sales figures on Doom. Check the sales figures on guns. Check the number of ISP accounts in the nation. Check the number of movie tickets sold for violent and gory movies. Check the ratings of news shows that depict graphic violence like these shootings. And finally, try telling me that in your highschool, there wern't students that were anti-social. Hell, try telling me that these are the only kids in the nation who's parents don't pay enough attention to them.
Now try telling me that a combination of these factors triggered this massacure. I need a good laugh. A good solid laugh, from the gut. Tell it to me with a straight face and you'll probably make me hit the floor.
No, there's only one reason that this happened. They were really messed up in the head. There's only one real solution to this, too: Train our schools to recognize signs that there is SEVERE trouble brewing in a small group of students.
Like Katz said: The kids know these things arn't to blame. All that blaming them does is more firmly convince the students that their government, parents and teachers are inept and stupid.
Granted, they're right on that, but it hardly helps said people in reaching the students.
Face it. I really REALLY wanted to kill some people in my school. The total assholes who caused trouble. Why didn't I? More imporantly, why didn't I, even though I played D&D (the old standby 'reason' these things happen) I played Wolf3d, I was on the internet and BBSs and liked wearing trenchcoats... and had good enough gun control to hit my target. So why didn't I, when exposed to the same factors these students were, react the same way? Why don't millions of other students also react by killing classmates?
Thats a harder question to answer. I expect people to cop out and blame guns, internet, games, movies and music... just like they always do.
or why the founding fathers separated church from state.
They didn't, actually. That's a modern interpretation of "Don't create a state endorsed religeon."
Also, you're comparing the wrong thing. Average British students vs Average American students. Oh wait, these kids wern't average, were they? Before the shootings they'd be out to at least the 5% range. Afterwards they arn't even statistically valid, there are so few.
--Dan
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Your right it dosn't... The 1st Ammendment does however.. that dosn't mean that you have to listen.
Everybody repeat after me: "The first ammendment only applies to the government." It does NOT mean you can write some drivel and force any newspaper to publish it. It does not give you free national airtime to voice your opinions. It only means that should you be able to be published/buy that airtime that the government cannot stop you.
One could argue that your same logic would apply to usenet as well. Should I then turn off cleanfeed + killfiles and read every article in every group? All the porn spam, all the crossposted flamewars that have nothing to do with the group at hand? As is, if I have time to play with them, I just look at what hit my killfile and I can see them.
The problem with calling it 'ShutUp Software' is that while yes, it hurts someone to not read a specific critical article/posting/website, it hurts much MORE to never read ANY critical article/posting or website. So really, NOT filtering out the complete trash is an even more insidious form of censorship: You find that you only have time to listen to the quick-written first-posted flames (and there are tons of them) and by the time you've found the well-thought out critiques, you have to get back to work.
Suddenly it's all in a new perspective. It's like blaring loud music at a conference. If for some reason you can't (First amendment! I've got my rights dammit!) stop them, would not a viable solution be to filter it out? (there's a number of options. Easiest is a low-power FM broadcast and cheap radio headsets)
And suddenly the signal level is boosted above the noise and everyone wins. And anyone who decides the conference is boring is perfectly free to take off the headset and listen to the music instead.
It's not a matter of convienience, it's a matter of usability./. was nearly unusable for comments before moderation. I for one hardly ever read them, since it took too long to find anything worth reading. This also means that I never bothered to write, knowing my voice would be lost among the flamers and 'first post' kiddiez.
No, the only concern of filtering is false-positives. If I chose never to listen to someone again, so be it. I for one only do that for people who resort to personal attacks and profanity. If someone disagrees with me and has reasonable arguments, they not only do not get filtered, often I put them in my highlights.
Much better to spend time debating with a critique then a flame.
... except every screen it's shown on on opening night it has to be shown on for the next 8 weeks. This is specifically to prevent the big chains from taking all customers away from the little guys. ALSO, this prevents you from getting stuck seeing it on their screens the size of TVs. I doubt you'll see more then 3-4 screens per theater.
Now, if only they'd start making 60" monitors with 1280x1024 resolution (or maybe 1600x1024 for movies!),
You're asking for too little. Try 16:9 aspect ratio at 1900x1000 (ish)
Yes, I saw that today. Mitsubishi HD-1080 16:9 series... very _VERY_ crisp. Very very expensive. ($9000 + $1500 for HDTV input plus god knows what else... probably near 15k) But it's a nice 65" monitor.
*nod* It wasn't even unexpected. EVERY merger of this size creates an overlapping set of jobs. Once the similar departments are merged, the top 50% are kept, the rest get relocation services. SOP. Trying to read any more into it then that is simply playing conspiracy games.
Hint, kiddie, bandwidth costs $$$$. Mindspring (rightly) checks the bandwidth someone is using so that someone paying 19.95 a month dosn't cost them more then that to provide. I'll cut my users breaks if they have a cool site, but with a million? I doubt I'd be able to keep up. Only in an extreme circumstance.
Here's another hint: EVERYONE has capped bandwith. I've got capped bandwidth at 45gig/day. What's slashdot on now, full T3? Thats still an "ISPs capped bandwidth bullshit." Am I a "lame skript kiddie" for only having 3 T1s? Is Rob lame for putting up with his lame, bandwidth capped T3? Does that mean./ runs on a lame windows webserver?
The word "Duh" applies here. The poster saw a cool website and submitted it. What, he's supposed to know the policies of every ISP in the world. Do you? Are you sure?
Actually, it's not legit. They _REALLY_ wanted to go after casette tapes too. (Why buy the tape for your car when you can just copy the CD to a blank tape?) However, tapes are too well established to go after. Imagine the outcry if they did.
Tapes have the same properties as MP3, save for one critical point: Tapes cannot be copied for (nearly) free across the internet.
So, a more dangerous (to them) media and a less established one is the target they need to go after.
Besides, ask RIAA sometime about copying an album to tape to listen to it in your car. That has the same legal status as copying it to your RIO to listen in your car...
Amen. Were it not for a really _NASTY_ power outage (and the failure of the primary backup generator) my email box would be at an uptime of 275 days right now... And it's a noname 486 that got hit by lightning. (I kid you not, IRQ 4 dosn't work but the system still runs)
My higher end boxes have similar reliability, if smaller uptimes. (I tend to swap their hardware more often) The trick is to not buy noname-boards from a first tier company, but to buy all the name-brand hardware yourself. Granted you lose the support from Dell or HP or Compaq, but you save enough to have more clued people around. It's all a tradeoff.
vmnet is there to provide the networking interface... I suppose you could use the ethertap device to get a similar setup, but they have bridging/private network/routed network in one.
From a quick readthrough, looks like their vmmon kernel module is largly to allow linux to run in inside itself... lots of vmLinux structures allocated. Anyway, it's a good read.
The processor has no inherent ability to transmit the ID. It has no TCP/IP stack. It has no modem. It has no radio transmitter.
This means, (follow me here, genius) that it takes _SOFTWARE_ to read the ID to the site.
Gee.
Use mozilla. Change fetch_id() to return random64(). If Intel has some sort of checksum/crc built into the ID, it'll be reverse-engineered. They have to tell people how to verify it or nobody will verify it. If nobody verifies it, random64() is good enough. Remember how AOL used to do batch credit card transactions? They used the simple checks to see if a card was valid. What happend? Right. People used card generators. Expect to see ID generators as well.
All in all... a total non-issue. Like all online verification schemes.
Re: the "No hacking"... thats not entirely a bad idea.
And not even redefining "hacking" to mean "kernel hacking"
Do you really want your system running a modified version of say, sendmail? Are you prepared to invest the time in merging in vendor changes to your private code tree? There are significant costs associated with running modified code on critical systems.
If your modification would have enough general intrest, you can submit it back to the main tree. However, it's quite likely that you will need to support it yourself then for a period of time.
Have you budgeted the man-hours for that?
I have custom versions of a few servers... and even if a CVS merge shows up clean, you may still end up tromping on something. It takes time. And, in the case of yet another security hole, it could mean downtime while you sync your code in.
Well, after reading the whole thing, I can't really say it looks like IRC.
You can't really refer to nicks as "objects with positional data", for instance, as well as consider them "participant stations in a zone of interest" (channel)
And, while zone of interest (channel) does filter out only the interesting messages to a participant, IRC also does not decide how much information to send based on bandwidth. If you join too many channels, or request a/list and/names at the same time, you get flooded off.
I think the comparason to nettrek would be more valid. Quake probably does the same, although thats a closed system. It'd be nice to see a few of the FPS game companies rip these guys a new asshole.
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I personally enjoy the games too much to buy my levels, but hey, people are idiots.
--Dan
Try seeing what happens when your raid-5 (hardware or software) gets shutdown uncleanly. Say, 50gig? 100gig? Thats SMALL, folks... so why does it take hours to bring linux back up?
It's being worked on, but let's not cite vaporware, thats a Micros~1 trick. When the raid cleaning + filesystem check for a half terr finishes in a matter of minutes, go ahead and trumpet it. But until then, anyone who knows better will happily correct you, and make linux look bad in the process.
Of course, on the bright side, Linux dosn't crash often enough to make this a concern. But when it does, it takes quite a while to recover.
--Dan
Check the sales figures on Doom. Check the sales figures on guns. Check the number of ISP accounts in the nation. Check the number of movie tickets sold for violent and gory movies. Check the ratings of news shows that depict graphic violence like these shootings. And finally, try telling me that in your highschool, there wern't students that were anti-social. Hell, try telling me that these are the only kids in the nation who's parents don't pay enough attention to them.
Now try telling me that a combination of these factors triggered this massacure. I need a good laugh. A good solid laugh, from the gut. Tell it to me with a straight face and you'll probably make me hit the floor.
No, there's only one reason that this happened. They were really messed up in the head. There's only one real solution to this, too: Train our schools to recognize signs that there is SEVERE trouble brewing in a small group of students.
Like Katz said: The kids know these things arn't to blame. All that blaming them does is more firmly convince the students that their government, parents and teachers are inept and stupid.
Granted, they're right on that, but it hardly helps said people in reaching the students.
Face it. I really REALLY wanted to kill some people in my school. The total assholes who caused trouble. Why didn't I? More imporantly, why didn't I, even though I played D&D (the old standby 'reason' these things happen) I played Wolf3d, I was on the internet and BBSs and liked wearing trenchcoats... and had good enough gun control to hit my target. So why didn't I, when exposed to the same factors these students were, react the same way? Why don't millions of other students also react by killing classmates?
Thats a harder question to answer. I expect people to cop out and blame guns, internet, games, movies and music... just like they always do.
--Dan
It's not my fault I couldn't get my facts straight, I was too busy making a point.
--Dan
They didn't, actually. That's a modern interpretation of "Don't create a state endorsed religeon."
Also, you're comparing the wrong thing. Average British students vs Average American students. Oh wait, these kids wern't average, were they? Before the shootings they'd be out to at least the 5% range. Afterwards they arn't even statistically valid, there are so few.
--Dan
Everybody repeat after me: "The first ammendment only applies to the government."
It does NOT mean you can write some drivel and force any newspaper to publish it. It does not give you free national airtime to voice your opinions. It only means that should you be able to be published/buy that airtime that the government cannot stop you.
The problem with calling it 'ShutUp Software' is that while yes, it hurts someone to not read a specific critical article/posting/website, it hurts much MORE to never read ANY critical article/posting or website. So really, NOT filtering out the complete trash is an even more insidious form of censorship: You find that you only have time to listen to the quick-written first-posted flames (and there are tons of them) and by the time you've found the well-thought out critiques, you have to get back to work.
Suddenly it's all in a new perspective. It's like blaring loud music at a conference. If for some reason you can't (First amendment! I've got my rights dammit!) stop them, would not a viable solution be to filter it out? (there's a number of options. Easiest is a low-power FM broadcast and cheap radio headsets)
And suddenly the signal level is boosted above the noise and everyone wins. And anyone who decides the conference is boring is perfectly free to take off the headset and listen to the music instead.
It's not a matter of convienience, it's a matter of usability. /. was nearly unusable for comments before moderation. I for one hardly ever read them, since it took too long to find anything worth reading. This also means that I never bothered to write, knowing my voice would be lost among the flamers and 'first post' kiddiez.
No, the only concern of filtering is false-positives. If I chose never to listen to someone again, so be it. I for one only do that for people who resort to personal attacks and profanity. If someone disagrees with me and has reasonable arguments, they not only do not get filtered, often I put them in my highlights.
Much better to spend time debating with a critique then a flame.
--Dan
--Dan
You're asking for too little.
Try 16:9 aspect ratio at 1900x1000 (ish)
Yes, I saw that today. Mitsubishi HD-1080 16:9 series... very _VERY_ crisp. Very very expensive. ($9000 + $1500 for HDTV input plus god knows what else... probably near 15k) But it's a nice 65" monitor.
--Dan
debugging info != debugging code.
There's a lot of printf()s there. Watch your
console.
--Dan
That would imply that the moderators read the article in question and didn't just agree with the knee-jerk reaction to the snippet.
I read it... I liked Scott Miller's response. Nobody wants to take responsibility, so they just find someone or something to blame.
Hey, I bet this kid ate BREAD Everyone who kills people eats that evil BREAD! We should ban BREAD, that will save us all!
--Dan
--Dan
Hint, kiddie, bandwidth costs $$$$. Mindspring (rightly) checks the bandwidth someone is using so that someone paying 19.95 a month dosn't cost them more then that to provide. I'll cut my users breaks if they have a cool site, but with a million? I doubt I'd be able to keep up. Only in an extreme circumstance.
Here's another hint: EVERYONE has capped bandwith. I've got capped bandwidth at 45gig/day. What's slashdot on now, full T3? Thats still an "ISPs capped bandwidth bullshit." Am I a "lame skript kiddie" for only having 3 T1s? Is Rob lame for putting up with his lame, bandwidth capped T3? Does that mean ./ runs on a lame windows webserver?
The word "Duh" applies here. The poster saw a cool website and submitted it. What, he's supposed to know the policies of every ISP in the world. Do you? Are you sure?
--Dan
Tapes have the same properties as MP3, save for one critical point: Tapes cannot be copied for (nearly) free across the internet.
So, a more dangerous (to them) media and a less established one is the target they need to go after.
Besides, ask RIAA sometime about copying an album to tape to listen to it in your car. That has the same legal status as copying it to your RIO to listen in your car...
--Dan
Amen. Were it not for a really _NASTY_ power outage (and the failure of the primary backup generator) my email box would be at an uptime of 275 days right now... And it's a noname 486 that got hit by lightning. (I kid you not, IRQ 4 dosn't work but the system still runs)
My higher end boxes have similar reliability, if smaller uptimes. (I tend to swap their hardware more often) The trick is to not buy noname-boards from a first tier company, but to buy all the name-brand hardware yourself. Granted you lose the support from Dell or HP or Compaq, but you save enough to have more clued people around. It's all a tradeoff.
--Dan
vmnet is there to provide the networking interface... I suppose you could use the ethertap device to get a similar setup, but they have bridging/private network/routed network in one.
From a quick readthrough, looks like their vmmon kernel module is largly to allow linux to run in inside itself... lots of vmLinux structures allocated. Anyway, it's a good read.
--DanThe processor has no inherent ability to transmit the ID. It has no TCP/IP stack. It has no modem. It has no radio transmitter.
This means, (follow me here, genius) that it takes _SOFTWARE_ to read the ID to the site.
Gee.
Use mozilla. Change fetch_id() to return random64(). If Intel has some sort of checksum/crc built into the ID, it'll be
reverse-engineered. They have to tell people how
to verify it or nobody will verify it. If nobody
verifies it, random64() is good enough. Remember
how AOL used to do batch credit card transactions?
They used the simple checks to see if a card was valid. What happend? Right. People used card generators. Expect to see ID generators as well.
All in all... a total non-issue. Like all online
verification schemes.
--Dan
Again, wake me when you have a clue
And not even redefining "hacking" to mean "kernel hacking"
Do you really want your system running a modified version of say, sendmail? Are you prepared to invest the time in merging in vendor changes to your private code tree? There are significant costs associated with running modified code on critical systems.
If your modification would have enough general intrest, you can submit it back to the main tree. However, it's quite likely that you will need to support it yourself then for a period of time.
Have you budgeted the man-hours for that?
I have custom versions of a few servers... and even if a CVS merge shows up clean, you may still end up tromping on something. It takes time. And, in the case of yet another security hole, it could mean downtime while you sync your code in.
--Dan
Well, after reading the whole thing, I can't
/list /names at the same time, you get flooded off.
really say it looks like IRC.
You can't really refer to nicks as "objects with
positional data", for instance, as well as
consider them "participant stations in a zone
of interest" (channel)
And, while zone of interest (channel) does filter
out only the interesting messages to a
participant, IRC also does not decide how much
information to send based on bandwidth. If
you join too many channels, or request a
and
I think the comparason to nettrek would be more
valid. Quake probably does the same, although
thats a closed system. It'd be nice to see a few
of the FPS game companies rip these guys a new
asshole.
--Dan