Well at least the guy didn't take issue with the contents of the post. Must have been a "dis-information" worker from Microsoft that could only find spelling as "non-factual".
Children like this should have their toys taken away from them. We don't need the "ignorant" to overrun the forums.
The chiller and pump require 145Watts and the peltiers rewires 210W. At 7.6 cents per KW/hr. Running it continuously for thiry days will cost an additonal $19.45. Less than you internat service. And if you take into account the thirty hours a month that it saves you in rendering time at $45.00 per hour, thats a $1,330.00 dollar a month savings because you can take on more work each month. I who said speed doesn't pay.
This system is four months old and was an very early prototype. With the aquisition of 'ES' samples of the PIII and a continual evolution of cooling system design and effeciency, the results have been staggering. Watch www.hardwarecentral.com for the Supercoolin to 1Ghz. Future - beyond 1Ghz. Everyone starts somewhere in the 'tinkering' and only your imagination is the limit if you only have half a brain.
Conventional thinking is buy only whats out there. Real minds are never satisfied. Just think if Columbus had accepted that the world was flat, kinda like Intel wants you to believe they control how fast your computer will run.
And for you Alpha freaks, mainstream program for program, perforance v $$, not even close, and never will be. Support is crap fo Aplha software and hardware.
R-11 and R-12 are banned freons, you cannot purchase them "over the counter", R-11 requires that you have a halogen detector in the same room as the compressor - extremely hazardous. R-12 has zero heath risks associated with it, but was a CFC. Remember when then Senator Al Gore stood before the Senate Committee and feed than a line of crap so long that it make his boss Clinton a siant. R-12 and similar CFC's were banned. My point was that the "enviromentally freindly" replacement being shoved done our throats is very damgerous and should be handled with that in mind. It is not the system or it's design, its the freon choice your government has restricted you to. Hell im changing to Anhydrous Ammonia (R-717) (plant fertilizer) pull MSDS sheets on that one.
Load 3D Studio Max and render 12000 frames @ 1024x768x32 and then tell me a great your Celeron 618 is. I'll expect your reponse in about a week if you have enough hard drives to hold the data.
I suggest you do your research inot the effects of electro migration mitigation effects of supercooling CMOS devices. The thermal breakage occur when and only when you either cool each component at a different rate, cool it to quickly, or allow it to heat back up to quickly. Though your points have validity in the world of ambient. The physics of CMOS devices begin to change at -40C and below. Do your homework.
This is the same thing you have in a small 2.5cuft freezer. R-134A freon. 9oz. at 144psi high side -11psi low side. They don't explode. they get a leak and slowly loose pressure. What you have to fear is our enviromently friendly R-134a. Health risks from R-12 CFC NONE Health risks from R-134a Short term DEATH Long Term-Tumors on Testicals - Loose balls
The greatest health risk of this system is direct contact with the thermal plates, sub -60C temp will burn you more serverely than boiling water.
Supercoolin The Guy Who Built the system Supercoolin@hotmail.com
You can see by the pictures that everything is insulated and sealed. You only have condensation problems if you allow the cooled components to come in contact with ambient are. Thats why you insulate and seal. The Slot1 is actually ideal because by adding a High-speed decoupler between the slot1 and the SECC2 you not only get line noise isolation but a thermal break from the motherboard to prevent transient heat from getting to the supercooled processor. At -60C you can safely increase the speed of any CMOS device by 70%.
Supercoolin The Guy yhat built the system Supercoolin@hotmail.com
I have move up to Anhydrous Ammonia (R-717) in order to achieve sub -100C. Standard CMOS devices today can operate in -120C to -150C without problems but can be clock at twice the speed that is safe at 50C. Improvements in the "doping" process at a relatively cheap cost will allow further cooling to sub -150C and at -202C you are restricted by the quality of the PLC and not the processor. 1.6GHZ would be the theshold of the crystal today.
Supercoolin The guy who built the system Supercoolin@hotmail.com
When I got the PIII's, they were restricted to 500Mhz. They Cost $780.00ea. No overclocking. Then for 155.00ea I bought 2 SL2WY wk37 PII 333Mhz and with the cooling system I am able to run stable at 620Mhz. I would have saved over $1200.00 if I had bought the Pii's in the first place.
Supercoolin The guy who built the system Supercoolin@hotmail.com
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I think Bill has solved all the security holes is his lastest OS. Don't boot up the computer.
Well at least the guy didn't take issue with the contents of the post. Must have been a "dis-information" worker from Microsoft that could only find spelling as "non-factual".
Children like this should have their toys taken away from them. We don't need the "ignorant" to overrun the forums.
"respect is earned, not commanded"
I have the update ready to that 6 month old story: Http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/rev iews/718/ , be the first to visit eh?
Steve 'Supercoolin' Foster
The peep who built the damn thing.
The chiller and pump require 145Watts and the peltiers rewires 210W. At 7.6 cents per KW/hr. Running it continuously for thiry days will cost an additonal $19.45. Less than you internat service. And if you take into account the thirty hours a month that it saves you in rendering time at $45.00 per hour, thats a $1,330.00 dollar a month savings because you can take on more work each month. I who said speed doesn't pay.
This system is four months old and was an very early prototype. With the aquisition of 'ES' samples of the PIII and a continual evolution of cooling system design and effeciency, the results have been staggering. Watch www.hardwarecentral.com for the Supercoolin to 1Ghz. Future - beyond 1Ghz. Everyone starts somewhere in the 'tinkering' and only your imagination is the limit if you only have half a brain.
Conventional thinking is buy only whats out there. Real minds are never satisfied. Just think if Columbus had accepted that the world was flat, kinda like Intel wants you to believe they control how fast your computer will run.
And for you Alpha freaks, mainstream program for program, perforance v $$, not even close, and never will be. Support is crap fo Aplha software and hardware.
Supercoolin
R-11 and R-12 are banned freons, you cannot purchase them "over the counter", R-11 requires that you have a halogen detector in the same room as the compressor - extremely hazardous. R-12 has zero heath risks associated with it, but was a CFC. Remember when then Senator Al Gore stood before the Senate Committee and feed than a line of crap so long that it make his boss Clinton a siant. R-12 and similar CFC's were banned. My point was that the "enviromentally freindly" replacement being shoved done our throats is very damgerous and should be handled with that in mind. It is not the system or it's design, its the freon choice your government has restricted you to. Hell im changing to Anhydrous Ammonia (R-717) (plant fertilizer) pull MSDS sheets on that one.
Load 3D Studio Max and render 12000 frames @ 1024x768x32 and then tell me a great your Celeron 618 is. I'll expect your reponse in about a week if you have enough hard drives to hold the data.
I suggest you do your research inot the effects of electro migration mitigation effects of supercooling CMOS devices. The thermal breakage occur when and only when you either cool each component at a different rate, cool it to quickly, or allow it to heat back up to quickly. Though your points have validity in the world of ambient. The physics of CMOS devices begin to change at -40C and below. Do your homework.
This is the same thing you have in a small 2.5cuft freezer. R-134A freon. 9oz. at 144psi high side -11psi low side. They don't explode. they get a leak and slowly loose pressure. What you have to fear is our enviromently friendly R-134a. Health risks from R-12 CFC NONE
Health risks from R-134a Short term DEATH
Long Term-Tumors on Testicals - Loose balls
The greatest health risk of this system is direct contact with the thermal plates, sub -60C temp will burn you more serverely than boiling water.
Supercoolin
The Guy Who Built the system
Supercoolin@hotmail.com
You can see by the pictures that everything is insulated and sealed. You only have condensation problems if you allow the cooled components to come in contact with ambient are. Thats why you insulate and seal. The Slot1 is actually ideal because by adding a High-speed decoupler between the slot1 and the SECC2 you not only get line noise isolation but a thermal break from the motherboard to prevent transient heat from getting to the supercooled processor. At -60C you can safely increase the speed of any CMOS device by 70%.
Supercoolin
The Guy yhat built the system
Supercoolin@hotmail.com
I have move up to Anhydrous Ammonia (R-717) in order to achieve sub -100C. Standard CMOS devices today can operate in -120C to -150C without problems but can be clock at twice the speed that is safe at 50C. Improvements in the "doping" process at a relatively cheap cost will allow further cooling to sub -150C and at -202C you are restricted by the quality of the PLC and not the processor. 1.6GHZ would be the theshold of the crystal today.
Supercoolin
The guy who built the system
Supercoolin@hotmail.com
When I got the PIII's, they were restricted to 500Mhz. They Cost $780.00ea. No overclocking. Then for 155.00ea I bought 2 SL2WY wk37 PII 333Mhz and with the cooling system I am able to run stable at 620Mhz. I would have saved over $1200.00 if I had bought the Pii's in the first place.
Supercoolin
The guy who built the system
Supercoolin@hotmail.com