You install linux faster and easier without reading documentation. If you want to make NT install as easy as linux (by answering all the questions ahead of time) then you have to read the docs.
W2K crashes no matter who uses it. Where I work the workers are constantly crashing it even though they know nothing of other operating systems. The odd thing is that these are Dells with W2K pre-installed on them. Maybe Dell has not sucked ass enough and Bill G. put in some code in there to make then unstable in Dells who knows.
They were comparing desktop systems. One desktop system comes with apache and allows unlimited connections the other desktop system is crippled by law and may even get you in jail if you are not careful. It's not fair to compare W2K server with MacOSX desktop.
I thought the point was not to read a 300 page document before you installed it? The original poster was complaining about how you had to read 300 pages before installing linux. If you have to read some huge document then installing windows is harder then installing linux.
Don't bother the man with facts now. He honestly thinks that you have to read a 300 page book before installing Linux (even mandrake?) and nothing you say will make him believe otherwise. He probably gets scared if somebody shows him the command line and runs home to his mommy traumatized.
Right. Because the people at microsoft are so absolutely honest (have you ever heard even one MS employee lie?) that they would never remove comments from code and they would always absolutely honor the wishes of people they took code from.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
NONE of the things you stated were invented by MS no matter how you define the term invent or innovate. Are you seriously claiming that the optical mouse was invented by MS? That SOAP was an MS protocol? Get real willya.
SOAP is a collaboration between Dave Winer (userland), MS, IBM and I think Sun. Figures a ms astro turfer would credit MS solely though. That Zico is a hoot.
If what you did to the customer was so bad that he sued you and he won and the damage was so large that you would stand to lose your house then you should lose your house. You must have royally screwed the guy to be bitchslapped like that in court.
If you were the one that screwed the customer then why should you escape with any of your assets intact? You fucked him you ought to pay with everything you got.
Here I'll repeat it for you. You were lying. You lied about what he said in order to insult him. You either failed to read his post or just lied deliberately either way it does not make you look good. What he said was that the astro turfers were not probably paid to astro-turf (this time). You completely misunderstood this and somehow arrived at the conclusion that he was saying the astro turfers were not employed by MS. Do you see the difference now? They are employed by MS but probably not being paid to post here on slashdot.
I for one disagree with him. Not only do they work for MS but they are also being paid to post here and worse yet they are organized and moderate each other up. It's an organized attack on slashdot and it's very effective. All the pro MS posts get modded up to 5 and all the anti MS posts get modded down to -1.
Next time you want to insult someone please read their post and give a little thought to understanding it. It makes you look stupid when you completely miss the point.
"I stand behind my work, but I'm not willing to bet *everything*, every day! "
So let me see. You are willing to stand behind your work except when you are not willing to stand behind your work. Some days you will stand behind your work but other days you won't. If for example a customer of yours is not happy (or from your perspective has a bug up his ass) and sues you, then you will not stand behind your work.
Did I get that right?
What good is a corporation except dodge personal responsibilty? Isn't that the whole purpose of a corporation?
Well that's nice. Next time I read about how the vast majority of meteorologists and climatologists are very concerned about ozone depletion and carbon dioxide emissions and the so called "global warming" I'll just ignore that. After all what to they know, it's not like they have spend years studying the atmosphere or doing research or something. Instead I'll rest easy knowing that cato institute and rush limbaugh insist that there are zero conseqences to polluting the air, releasing hydrocarbons and other activities. And besides some poster on slashdot said it's a myth so it must be a myth, and really he ought to know.
"Although I think Richard Stallman venting his rage does compare."
No it does not compare. For one he does not lie to the press and public. Secondly he knows the difference between the open source movement, the free software movement and the GPL. Third he does not pay people to post favorable comments about him. Fourth he does not spend millions of dollars to hire Marketing companies to tell lies about how his product "play nice with others" or "never crash".
Clearly you are unable to grasp the difference between the behaviours, motivations, and strategies of RMS and Microsoft a fact I find rather disturbing to tell the truth.
"But my point is that Joe Schmoe's ranting about Micro$hit makes me unsympathetic to his trauma when a Microsoft statement jars his feelings."
How odd. When Joe Shmoe rants it makes you unsympathetic but when MS call joe Schmoe a communist, anti-american cancer it makes you sympathethic to MS. Why the double standard?
"here's just one group of editors, right? The ones who are posting all the "Ohmigod, Craig Mundie said something bad about Linux!" stories are the same ones who've been leading the anti-Microsoft crusade for years."
Well until the astro turfers arrived here (notice every pro MS post has been modded up to 5) this was an open source web site. If you wanted to talk about how great MS was you hung out at ZDNET or Fawcette publications sites where any comment regarding any software that was made outside of redmond got you flamed all to hell. Grow the fuck up that's the net for you. If you don't like it there are a billion Pro MS sites including microsoft.com where you can hang out and talk about how we are communist pigs for writing software that we don't charge for. I for one will not stop calling them liars till they stop lying or stop calling them evil till they stop doing evil things and will not make nice to them till they stop calling me communist and anti-american. I at least served in the military did Bill Gates or Jim Allchin? Where does he get off calling me un american the fucking pig.
"Without the electoral college the people in the 4 most populous US states would dominate presidential race, and that's wrong."
Why is that wrong? The exact same argument can be made for the statewide numbers. In most states one or two cities hold the greatest percentage of the population but somehow nobody had gotten around to implementing an electoral collage for counties or cities. If it's good enough for the majority of a state to elect delegates why isn't good enough for a majority to elect the president?
And remember without an electoral collage the states would not be winner take all. you would still have to convice the majority of Americans that you were the better man no matter where they lived. In this day of mass media that would be very easy to do.
As it is the electoral collage causes just a few states to determine the outcome of an election. The candidates concentrate their efforts on five or six swing states and completely ignore states that they have in the bag or are never going to win. George Bush completely ignored California (and is not punishing them for not voting for him) and Gore completely ignored Texas and most of the inland west which was going to vote republican no matter who the candidate was. If you were a democrat in Texas or a Republican in California you voice did not matter, your vote did not matter.
Without an electoral collage your vote would matter no matter where you are.
BTW you example only works if the people of provinces of A, B and C are completely monolithic in their thinking. Remember without an electoral collage it's not winner take all you must convince the majority of the people in the country that you are the man. If in your example every single resident disliked the other provinces then yes it would be hell for the others but that's the nature of democracy.
"Why is that you twits never bitch about the fact that government tax the piss out of you yet bitch and moan about some evil corporation. "
Well first of all every body bitches about taxes even the fucking farmers and ranches who collect welfare to the tunes of millions and corporations who take so much tax payer money it would make your head spin.
As for your other points..
What makes you think Microsoft does not have guns? The worldwide Microsoft security staff all of whom are armed and trained would dwarf the police force of most cities. Not only that but the army of private investigators, bodyguards and other mercenaries (including lawyers of course) on the MS payroll must also be mind boggling.
Lastly. MS does not have to jail you. It's much cheaper to bribe a politician and make your activity illegal and let the state jail you. That way they make the govt looks bad, the Republicans like you get mad at the govt, republicans like McVeigh blow up the govt buildings, the taxpayers to foot the bill for catching, trying and jailing you. The corps come out smelling like a rose. It's a total win for the corporations. If at any point the govt stopped doing their bidding you can be sure the corporation police force would be out breaking knees and assinating people.
Historically the corporations have always chosen to kill and maim their opponents as opposed to jailing them. Go read up on the copper kings of Montana or the Union busting tactics of the coal companies for examples of how corporations ruled the people when the govt would not do their bidding for them.
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Wow tell the truth and get moderated down as a troll. Surprises never end.
You install linux faster and easier without reading documentation. If you want to make NT install as easy as linux (by answering all the questions ahead of time) then you have to read the docs.
The OSS is a license spec. It says nothing about how something is developed only about how something can be distributed.
W2K crashes no matter who uses it. Where I work the workers are constantly crashing it even though they know nothing of other operating systems. The odd thing is that these are Dells with W2K pre-installed on them. Maybe Dell has not sucked ass enough and Bill G. put in some code in there to make then unstable in Dells who knows.
They were comparing desktop systems. One desktop system comes with apache and allows unlimited connections the other desktop system is crippled by law and may even get you in jail if you are not careful. It's not fair to compare W2K server with MacOSX desktop.
Sorry you would be a criminal if you did that on W2K pro. Read your license. I would hate have people in jail because soembody gave bad advice on /.
Not only does W2K cost more then linux but you need to buy more expensive hardware as well. I get it now.
I thought the point was not to read a 300 page document before you installed it? The original poster was complaining about how you had to read 300 pages before installing linux. If you have to read some huge document then installing windows is harder then installing linux.
Don't bother the man with facts now. He honestly thinks that you have to read a 300 page book before installing Linux (even mandrake?) and nothing you say will make him believe otherwise. He probably gets scared if somebody shows him the command line and runs home to his mommy traumatized.
Right. Because the people at microsoft are so absolutely honest (have you ever heard even one MS employee lie?) that they would never remove comments from code and they would always absolutely honor the wishes of people they took code from.
From revelation chapter 13
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Does this sound like hailstorm to you?
Who says angels have no souls?
NONE of the things you stated were invented by MS no matter how you define the term invent or innovate. Are you seriously claiming that the optical mouse was invented by MS? That SOAP was an MS protocol? Get real willya.
SOAP is a collaboration between Dave Winer (userland), MS, IBM and I think Sun. Figures a ms astro turfer would credit MS solely though. That Zico is a hoot.
If all you say is true then why is MS badmouthing OSS. Looks like companies can make billions from OSS.
Maybe he gets paid by the post?
Are you saying there is no differnce between changing the look of your website and changing the content of your website?
If what you did to the customer was so bad that he sued you and he won and the damage was so large that you would stand to lose your house then you should lose your house. You must have royally screwed the guy to be bitchslapped like that in court.
If you were the one that screwed the customer then why should you escape with any of your assets intact? You fucked him you ought to pay with everything you got.
Here I'll repeat it for you. You were lying. You lied about what he said in order to insult him. You either failed to read his post or just lied deliberately either way it does not make you look good. What he said was that the astro turfers were not probably paid to astro-turf (this time). You completely misunderstood this and somehow arrived at the conclusion that he was saying the astro turfers were not employed by MS. Do you see the difference now? They are employed by MS but probably not being paid to post here on slashdot.
I for one disagree with him. Not only do they work for MS but they are also being paid to post here and worse yet they are organized and moderate each other up. It's an organized attack on slashdot and it's very effective. All the pro MS posts get modded up to 5 and all the anti MS posts get modded down to -1.
Next time you want to insult someone please read their post and give a little thought to understanding it. It makes you look stupid when you completely miss the point.
"I stand behind my work, but I'm not willing to bet *everything*, every day! "
So let me see. You are willing to stand behind your work except when you are not willing to stand behind your work. Some days you will stand behind your work but other days you won't. If for example a customer of yours is not happy (or from your perspective has a bug up his ass) and sues you, then you will not stand behind your work.
Did I get that right?
What good is a corporation except dodge personal responsibilty? Isn't that the whole purpose of a corporation?
Well that's nice. Next time I read about how the vast majority of meteorologists and climatologists are very concerned about ozone depletion and carbon dioxide emissions and the so called "global warming" I'll just ignore that. After all what to they know, it's not like they have spend years studying the atmosphere or doing research or something. Instead I'll rest easy knowing that cato institute and rush limbaugh insist that there are zero conseqences to polluting the air, releasing hydrocarbons and other activities. And besides some poster on slashdot said it's a myth so it must be a myth, and really he ought to know.
"Yes, but you've just said he isn't employed. Don't let logic spoil your day though. "
No he just said that he isn't paid to post not that we wasn't employed by MS. Don't let the facts spoil your day though.
"Although I think Richard Stallman venting his rage does compare."
No it does not compare. For one he does not lie to the press and public. Secondly he knows the difference between the open source movement, the free software movement and the GPL. Third he does not pay people to post favorable comments about him. Fourth he does not spend millions of dollars to hire Marketing companies to tell lies about how his product "play nice with others" or "never crash".
Clearly you are unable to grasp the difference between the behaviours, motivations, and strategies of RMS and Microsoft a fact I find rather disturbing to tell the truth.
"But my point is that Joe Schmoe's ranting about Micro$hit makes me unsympathetic to his trauma when a Microsoft statement jars his feelings."
How odd. When Joe Shmoe rants it makes you unsympathetic but when MS call joe Schmoe a communist, anti-american cancer it makes you sympathethic to MS. Why the double standard?
"here's just one group of editors, right? The ones who are posting all the "Ohmigod, Craig Mundie said something bad about Linux!" stories are the same ones who've been leading the anti-Microsoft crusade for years."
Well until the astro turfers arrived here (notice every pro MS post has been modded up to 5) this was an open source web site. If you wanted to talk about how great MS was you hung out at ZDNET or Fawcette publications sites where any comment regarding any software that was made outside of redmond got you flamed all to hell. Grow the fuck up that's the net for you. If you don't like it there are a billion Pro MS sites including microsoft.com where you can hang out and talk about how we are communist pigs for writing software that we don't charge for. I for one will not stop calling them liars till they stop lying or stop calling them evil till they stop doing evil things and will not make nice to them till they stop calling me communist and anti-american. I at least served in the military did Bill Gates or Jim Allchin? Where does he get off calling me un american the fucking pig.
"Without the electoral college the people in the 4 most populous US states would dominate presidential race, and that's wrong."
Why is that wrong? The exact same argument can be made for the statewide numbers. In most states one or two cities hold the greatest percentage of the population but somehow nobody had gotten around to implementing an electoral collage for counties or cities. If it's good enough for the majority of a state to elect delegates why isn't good enough for a majority to elect the president?
And remember without an electoral collage the states would not be winner take all. you would still have to convice the majority of Americans that you were the better man no matter where they lived. In this day of mass media that would be very easy to do.
As it is the electoral collage causes just a few states to determine the outcome of an election. The candidates concentrate their efforts on five or six swing states and completely ignore states that they have in the bag or are never going to win. George Bush completely ignored California (and is not punishing them for not voting for him) and Gore completely ignored Texas and most of the inland west which was going to vote republican no matter who the candidate was. If you were a democrat in Texas or a Republican in California you voice did not matter, your vote did not matter.
Without an electoral collage your vote would matter no matter where you are.
BTW you example only works if the people of provinces of A, B and C are completely monolithic in their thinking. Remember without an electoral collage it's not winner take all you must convince the majority of the people in the country that you are the man. If in your example every single resident disliked the other provinces then yes it would be hell for the others but that's the nature of democracy.
"Why is that you twits never bitch about the fact that government tax the piss out of you yet bitch and moan about some evil corporation. "
Well first of all every body bitches about taxes even the fucking farmers and ranches who collect welfare to the tunes of millions and corporations who take so much tax payer money it would make your head spin.
As for your other points..
What makes you think Microsoft does not have guns? The worldwide Microsoft security staff all of whom are armed and trained would dwarf the police force of most cities. Not only that but the army of private investigators, bodyguards and other mercenaries (including lawyers of course) on the MS payroll must also be mind boggling.
Lastly. MS does not have to jail you. It's much cheaper to bribe a politician and make your activity illegal and let the state jail you. That way they make the govt looks bad, the Republicans like you get mad at the govt, republicans like McVeigh blow up the govt buildings, the taxpayers to foot the bill for catching, trying and jailing you. The corps come out smelling like a rose. It's a total win for the corporations. If at any point the govt stopped doing their bidding you can be sure the corporation police force would be out breaking knees and assinating people.
Historically the corporations have always chosen to kill and maim their opponents as opposed to jailing them. Go read up on the copper kings of Montana or the Union busting tactics of the coal companies for examples of how corporations ruled the people when the govt would not do their bidding for them.