LOL... they will be talking about the death of ITMS along with the death of Apple for the next 20 years.
Assuming that Apple doesn't screw up and introduce the PCjr of Macs and the RIAA doesn't develop a bad attitude about ITMS, Apple and ITMS will continue to work for many people.
I am sharing music, photos and hopefully someday video on my home network. And all I had to do to make this happen is to buy a Mac, plug it into my router, turn on a system preference and start an application.
As far as Apple changing the terms of ITMS. Well MCI/WorldCom tried to change my cellular contract.... were gonna send me new phones..... charge just a bit more.....
I refused to pay and 18 months later, after letters and calls to everybody, they dropped all claims for the balance of the contract. If Apple in any way denies me the use of the music I have purchased from them they will rue the day.
You know I think that criticizing Apples "DRM infected OS" is taking our sights off of the real issues. Not to flame bait but what is coming from Microsoft, the entertainment industry and the guvment will make Apple DRM seem like Nirvana.
If you want to fight DRM don't subscribe to digital TV. Do you know how many locks they are going to be building into the TV of the future. Or the PC of the future. They say its all about freedom of choice, but you are only choosing between their choices. But of course you have to pay for it.
If subscription services were going to work, then there would never have been a dot com bust. Whatever you think of Apples model, you have to admit that it works.
We all agree that backing should be a normal part of our digital world. Don't blame Apple for peoples laziness. I back up 3 Macs on a PC hard drive across the network. Took all of 50 or 60 seconds to set it up and make it weekly.
I did a "necessary" 98 update on my girlfriends machine and upon reboot, it hung with the flashing cursor in the upper left hand corner.
Restarted in safe mode. Removed some new Sound/Video devices that I had never seen before. What seemed to be "software" devices. Rebooted, no luck. Set video to VGA. Rebooted ok.
Changed video, rebooted. 24 hours later I go to her machine to update AIM to 5.5 (hadn't been used since I last got it running). Previously working AIM crashes. Downloaded 5.5. Installed it. It now crashes.
Everything now crashes soon after launch. I start looking around and see a WildTangent control panel. Start looking around and find that this program, was installed without my knowledge and it is phoning home.
Any body have any information about WildTangent. Not how to remove it but history, when it was installed, where there alleged agreement came in when it was installed on my computer.
I cant imagine them not being able to access the data on a Mac or that it is in any way a mystery.
Actually this story is over 10 years old. I remember it from the late 80's and early nineties. Don't believe that the FBI can't forensically examine a Macintosh. Thats bullshit.
I do want to know if there is a back door to Filevault. Not that I have anything to hide but I do have one machine with Filevault turned on.
If you believe the spiel it will remain invisible to them, of course with the understanding that anything can be broken.
I worked for the byte shop in 84 up in Seattle. Those were the days. I went to the Mac introduction in Bellevue at the Apple Reps and Ron Reed skated back and forth behind the podium, with a Mac in a carrying case dressed in a Kilt. It was the most bizzare situation at the time or so I thought. I had heard about the Mac, as I was doing education sales at that time and had learned something about it from teachers who had seen it.
We were all dazzled. I was sitting next to one of our sales people and we turned to each other when we first saw it boot up and at the same time said to each other, "we be macin' now", as we broke into wide grins.
The original Mac was and continues to be a marvelous machine. It did have sound. It did have a GUI. With our Mac we had mapped our AppleII/Corvus network, using MacDraw. We drew it 11' x 11' and printed out the whole thing one page at a time,
That's what the Mac is all about. The tool to allow you to accomplish things. It's not really about anti IBM or MS. It's more about computing power in peoples hands. Hence the inclination for creative people to "get" the Mac.
Apple didn't steal anyting from Xerox. That was the understanding then, reinforced by that fact that whatever ideas Apple did get from Xerox, they were compensated to the tune of $4,000,000 dollars. My memory of it may be slightly fuzzy after all these years, but that was talked about then.
jeez, join the 21st century. my girlfriend has an PC with win98. My iMac shows up in network neighborhood and is easily accessible. Her Win98 machine has a persistent connection to my iDisk account.
Kermit... damn, I had forgotten about that. I'm wondering what the hell you get accomplished with your setup. seems like you are doing a whole lot of worthless stuff in this day and age.
A lot of people don't get that. I personally do not want to be locked into a M$, Gov, media company, homeland security DRM scheme.
This IS huge in the format/DRM wars. In the larger picture it goes back to to the 1984 commercial. It wasn't about Big Blue, it was about having a powerful tool at your fingertips. I pay for that when I buy my Mac. I pay for the ability to see iTunes playlist "automatically". (I do have to turn on a preference)
I would think that/. 'rs would be rooting for Apple because the alternative, in all its Windo$e permutations involves strict controls and payments.
There is a revolution going on. Has been since people realized that PC's were useful. We can either keep control of our PC's or give it up.
and defining standards. Since the intro of iTunes, I have been saying that Apple should offer it free, to be included on new computers.
Smart move for Apple and I think it was also a smart move for HP.
Apple gains increased music as well as iPod sales. The sheer numbers of people with AAC files will force others to adopt and or include Fairplay/AAC capabilities in their machines.
Apple gets a WinTel manufacturer to actively promote the setup and more importantly to build upon what Apple has. By build upon I mean work to implement things like Rendezvous in other products.
As I see it the only thing that Apple could have done better was to have this announcement when they announced iTunes.
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LOL... they will be talking about the death of ITMS along with the death of Apple for the next 20 years.
Assuming that Apple doesn't screw up and introduce the PCjr of Macs and the RIAA doesn't develop a bad attitude about ITMS, Apple and ITMS will continue to work for many people.
I am sharing music, photos and hopefully someday video on my home network. And all I had to do to make this happen is to buy a Mac, plug it into my router, turn on a system preference and start an application.
As far as Apple changing the terms of ITMS. Well MCI/WorldCom tried to change my cellular contract.... were gonna send me new phones..... charge just a bit more.....
I refused to pay and 18 months later, after letters and calls to everybody, they dropped all claims for the balance of the contract. If Apple in any way denies me the use of the music I have purchased from them they will rue the day.
You know I think that criticizing Apples "DRM infected OS" is taking our sights off of the real issues. Not to flame bait but what is coming from Microsoft, the entertainment industry and the guvment will make Apple DRM seem like Nirvana.
If you want to fight DRM don't subscribe to digital TV. Do you know how many locks they are going to be building into the TV of the future. Or the PC of the future. They say its all about freedom of choice, but you are only choosing between their choices. But of course you have to pay for it.
If subscription services were going to work, then there would never have been a dot com bust. Whatever you think of Apples model, you have to admit that it works.
We all agree that backing should be a normal part of our digital world. Don't blame Apple for peoples laziness. I back up 3 Macs on a PC hard drive across the network. Took all of 50 or 60 seconds to set it up and make it weekly.
I did a "necessary" 98 update on my girlfriends machine and upon reboot, it hung with the flashing cursor in the upper left hand corner.
Restarted in safe mode. Removed some new Sound/Video devices that I had never seen before. What seemed to be "software" devices. Rebooted, no luck. Set video to VGA. Rebooted ok.
Changed video, rebooted. 24 hours later I go to her machine to update AIM to 5.5 (hadn't been used since I last got it running). Previously working AIM crashes. Downloaded 5.5. Installed it. It now crashes.
Everything now crashes soon after launch. I start looking around and see a WildTangent control panel. Start looking around and find that this program, was installed without my knowledge and it is phoning home.
Any body have any information about WildTangent. Not how to remove it but history, when it was installed, where there alleged agreement came in when it was installed on my computer.
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I like that. That shows the power of these wonderful devices we have. I've thought of that and am looking for a video encoder now.
As far as this tech replacing the phone, they won't allow that.
I cant imagine them not being able to access the data on a Mac or that it is in any way a mystery.
Actually this story is over 10 years old. I remember it from the late 80's and early nineties. Don't believe that the FBI can't forensically examine a Macintosh. Thats bullshit.
I do want to know if there is a back door to Filevault. Not that I have anything to hide but I do have one machine with Filevault turned on.
If you believe the spiel it will remain invisible to them, of course with the understanding that anything can be broken.
Cinque
Jeff,
I worked for the byte shop in 84 up in Seattle. Those were the days. I went to the Mac introduction in Bellevue at the Apple Reps and Ron Reed skated back and forth behind the podium, with a Mac in a carrying case dressed in a Kilt. It was the most bizzare situation at the time or so I thought. I had heard about the Mac, as I was doing education sales at that time and had learned something about it from teachers who had seen it.
We were all dazzled. I was sitting next to one of our sales people and we turned to each other when we first saw it boot up and at the same time said to each other, "we be macin' now", as we broke into wide grins.
The original Mac was and continues to be a marvelous machine. It did have sound. It did have a GUI. With our Mac we had mapped our AppleII/Corvus network, using MacDraw. We drew it 11' x 11' and printed out the whole thing one page at a time,
That's what the Mac is all about. The tool to allow you to accomplish things. It's not really about anti IBM or MS. It's more about computing power in peoples hands. Hence the inclination for creative people to "get" the Mac.
Apple didn't steal anyting from Xerox. That was the understanding then, reinforced by that fact that whatever ideas Apple did get from Xerox, they were compensated to the tune of $4,000,000 dollars. My memory of it may be slightly fuzzy after all these years, but that was talked about then.
Oscar
jeez, join the 21st century. my girlfriend has an PC with win98. My iMac shows up in network neighborhood and is easily accessible. Her Win98 machine has a persistent connection to my iDisk account.
Kermit... damn, I had forgotten about that. I'm wondering what the hell you get accomplished with your setup. seems like you are doing a whole lot of worthless stuff in this day and age.
A lot of people don't get that. I personally do not want to be locked into a M$, Gov, media company, homeland security DRM scheme.
/. 'rs would be rooting for Apple because the alternative, in all its Windo$e permutations involves strict controls and payments.
This IS huge in the format/DRM wars. In the larger picture it goes back to to the 1984 commercial. It wasn't about Big Blue, it was about having a powerful tool at your fingertips. I pay for that when I buy my Mac. I pay for the ability to see iTunes playlist "automatically". (I do have to turn on a preference)
I would think that
There is a revolution going on. Has been since people realized that PC's were useful. We can either keep control of our PC's or give it up.
and defining standards. Since the intro of iTunes, I have been saying that Apple should offer it free, to be included on new computers.
Smart move for Apple and I think it was also a smart move for HP.
Apple gains increased music as well as iPod sales. The sheer numbers of people with AAC files will force others to adopt and or include Fairplay/AAC capabilities in their machines.
Apple gets a WinTel manufacturer to actively promote the setup and more importantly to build upon what Apple has. By build upon I mean work to implement things like Rendezvous in other products.
As I see it the only thing that Apple could have done better was to have this announcement when they announced iTunes.
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