>With Solaris working on laptops, how much do people need Linux laptops?
This is the same question really. Solaris is great for those of us who don't absolutely need _free_ software (free as in don't ask _me_ to pay for it).
I'd rather pay for Solaris and get its bullet-proof logging filesystem, reliable package management software, tech support, and generally bug-free OS.
>Perfect search results are only present in the minds of the searchers. Google is, without doubt, the best search engine around.
So far it is, assuming your queries are straightforward, involve clear refs, and you don't search newsgroups.
Otherwise be prepared to spend some time submitting multiple queries. It's especially bad in the newsgroups search where they've made "relevance" the default instead of "date" (See also www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20021003.html"). I also have a hard time with foreign language results and have to use the advanced search too often for comfort (I guess they assume the translate engine covers all the bases. It doesn't)
Is this a result of information overload? bottom line focus (i.e, bean counter influence)? or just the inevitable drifting off course? We may never know but if anything it may be a good opportunity for competitors.
>It seems much more likely that someone on the team was registering for something somewhere
As my 7 year old niece would say "yea, right".
I've received these Dell ads at my P.O.Box too, and have never advertised it except on the web.
What's worse than their "harvesting" methods is the fact that they don't provide an opt-out phone number. If you call the number listed on the card the person will tell you that A) they can't take you off the mailing list, B) they can't connect you with someone who will, C) they can't give you their name, and B) they can't connect you with a supervisor. If you want to opt-out you can call a Texas phone number...
I believe this is all illegal by FCC regulation. That never stopped Dell though. Not surprisingly Mr. Dell is one of the most outspoken supporters of Microsoft's monopoly business practices. What an ass-kisser.
I know it's a waste of time replying to such empty Rhetoric, like most/. posts by paid for by M$.
>Sun is fighting MS now for several years, but not on the front of great softw
Java's not great software? StarOffice isn't? Solaris isn't? Looks like your definition of great software is limited to M$.
>Sun: put your money where your mo
That's exactly what they're doing, and in the best possible way. M$ monopoly is the worst thing that ever happened to computer users. Just look at how it has stifled browser development, word processor development, and spreadsheet development. Look at the loss of security and privacy that M$ users are forced to endure. There's nothing Sun could do to address these issues that M$ couldn't leverage their monopoly and defeat.
The issue is anti-trust. The issue is a level playing field. The issue is an open markplace. Bravo to Sun for sticking to these basic goals and looking out for consumers where nobody else has.
>Yes it harder to find technical people who know sun over windows or linux.
Not in my experience. It is harder to find people with experience managing production Linux servers. The vast majority of Linux resumes we receive are from people with no formal Unix training and relatively little production experience.
>Why buy one big box when many cheaper ones will do
Because we don't want to pay someone to upgrade the kernel every few months, or to spend half of every day fixing bugs or debugging hardware problems. The nice thing about Sun that Linux lacks is plug-and-play. Linux on x86 is relatively cheap initially but far more expensive on-going.
>Most of the good sun stuff is the ported open source stuff that you have to go to ibiblio to download
And most Linux stuff isn't? You only need to run Veritas or SDS on a terrabyte disk farm to see the advantage to Solaris software.
>Incompatibility across versions
Gasp. We're using Sun apps compiled over 10 years ago. Linux, in contrast, seems to break half of everything every upgrade.
>Propretary hardware
Thank God, and open-spec too. The best of both worlds. No interrupt conflicts, no incompatible PC BIOS settings, no video card requirement, serial consoles,...
Years ago/usr was considered read-only, due to hard drives that maxed out at 200MB, but that certainly isn't the case today.
In comparison with other Unix distributions Linux certainly does come out behind with regards to filesystem organization. Take Apache for example, configuration under/etc/httpd, binary under/usr/sbin, libraries under/usr/whatever, gawd what a mess.
The right way to do apache is to put everything under/usr/local/apache (on a standalone system) or/usr/apache (when using a networked/usr/local)/{etc,bin,lib,...}.
Filesystem organization, quality assurance, networked filesystems,... all areas where Linux immaturity shows badly relative to other Unix OS. On the positive side addressing these weakeness would boost Linux popularity 10-fold (IMHO)
>I think we could probably all stand to learn >from his restraint.
Learn what? That large corporations are immune from anti-trust laws? That it's ok to threaten your customers for patronizing other vendors? America wasn't founded by people who kept their mouths shut about the kind of monopolistic practices that got MS convicted.
Sun Microsystems has they kind of corporate ethics I prefer. They do take stands on important issues like anti-trust and education and the environment. Their executives aren't so (restrained|unconcerned) that they really don't have an opinion on one of the most important issues, technology-wise and economy-wise, of the decade..
Linus reminds me of some of the suburban girls I dated in high school. They didn't really have opinions on anything environmental or ethical or political but they could go on about rock bands or shopping or their favorite TV shows all day long. Some guys like that type. Not me thanks.
The only reason real-estate doesn't work on the web is because realtors mae sure it doesn't work on the web. If you could find a house on the Internet you wouldn't need to pay their monopoly-based 6% commission.
First they don't make the MLS available for browsing until it is weeks old, and useless. Then they hold an open house for realtors only. Finally, they try to steer you away from any deal that desn't generate their commissions. It's a racket.
Homes would be a lot easier to buy and sell if realtors were paid by the hour.
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>With Solaris working on laptops, how much do people need Linux laptops?
This is the same question really. Solaris is great for those of us who
don't absolutely need _free_ software (free as in don't ask _me_ to pay
for it).
I'd rather pay for Solaris and get its bullet-proof logging filesystem,
reliable package management software, tech support, and generally
bug-free OS.
YMMV
>Perfect search results are only present in the minds of the searchers. Google is, without doubt, the best search engine around.
.
So far it is, assuming your queries are straightforward, involve clear refs, and you don't search newsgroups.
Otherwise be prepared to spend some time submitting multiple queries. It's especially bad in the newsgroups search where they've made "relevance" the default instead of "date" (See also www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20021003.html")
I also have a hard time with foreign language results and have to use the advanced search too often for comfort (I guess they assume the translate engine covers all the bases. It doesn't)
Is this a result of information overload? bottom line focus (i.e, bean counter influence)? or just the inevitable drifting off course? We may never know but if anything it may be a good opportunity for competitors.
>It seems much more likely that someone on the team was registering for something somewhere
As my 7 year old niece would say "yea, right".
I've received these Dell ads at my P.O.Box too,
and have never advertised it except on the web.
What's worse than their "harvesting" methods is the fact that they don't provide an opt-out phone number. If you call the number listed on the card the person will tell you that A) they can't take you off the mailing list, B) they can't connect you with someone who will, C) they can't give you their name, and B) they can't connect you with a supervisor. If you want to opt-out you can call a Texas phone number...
I believe this is all illegal by FCC regulation. That never stopped Dell though. Not surprisingly Mr. Dell is one of the most outspoken supporters of Microsoft's monopoly business practices. What an ass-kisser.
I know it's a waste of time replying to such empty Rhetoric, like most /. posts by paid for by M$.
>Sun is fighting MS now for several years, but not on the front of great softw
Java's not great software? StarOffice isn't? Solaris isn't? Looks like your definition of great software is limited to M$.
>Sun: put your money where your mo
That's exactly what they're doing, and in the best possible way. M$ monopoly is the worst
thing that ever happened to computer users. Just look at how it has stifled browser development, word processor development, and spreadsheet development. Look at the loss of security and privacy that M$ users are forced to endure. There's nothing Sun could do to address these issues that M$ couldn't leverage their monopoly and defeat.
The issue is anti-trust. The issue is a level playing field. The issue is an open markplace. Bravo to Sun for sticking to these basic goals and looking out for consumers where nobody else has.
>Yes it harder to find technical people who know sun over windows or linux.
...
Not in my experience. It is harder to find people with experience managing production Linux servers. The vast majority of Linux resumes we receive are from people with no formal Unix training and relatively little production experience.
>Why buy one big box when many cheaper ones will do
Because we don't want to pay someone to upgrade the kernel every few months, or to spend half of every day fixing bugs or debugging hardware problems. The nice thing about Sun that Linux lacks is plug-and-play. Linux on x86 is relatively cheap initially but far more expensive on-going.
>Most of the good sun stuff is the ported open source stuff that you have to go to ibiblio to download
And most Linux stuff isn't? You only need to run Veritas or SDS on a terrabyte disk farm to see the advantage to Solaris software.
>Incompatibility across versions
Gasp. We're using Sun apps compiled over 10 years ago. Linux, in contrast, seems to break half of everything every upgrade.
>Propretary hardware
Thank God, and open-spec too. The best of both worlds. No interrupt conflicts, no incompatible PC BIOS settings, no video card requirement, serial consoles,
r7
Years ago /usr was considered read-only, due to hard drives that maxed out at 200MB, but that certainly isn't the case today.
/etc/httpd, binary under /usr/sbin, libraries under /usr/whatever, gawd what a mess.
/usr/local/apache (on a standalone system) or /usr/apache (when using a networked /usr/local) /{etc,bin,lib,...}.
... all areas where Linux immaturity shows badly relative to other Unix OS. On the positive side addressing these weakeness would boost Linux popularity 10-fold (IMHO)
In comparison with other Unix distributions Linux certainly does come out behind with regards to filesystem organization. Take Apache for example, configuration under
The right way to do apache is to put everything under
Filesystem organization, quality assurance, networked filesystems,
>s there a web site dedicated to this matter?.
There's a start at: www.msfree.com
Additions and corrections would be welcome.
>I think we could probably all stand to learn >from his restraint.
Learn what? That large corporations are immune from anti-trust laws? That it's ok to threaten your customers for patronizing other vendors? America wasn't founded by people who kept their mouths shut about the kind of monopolistic practices that got MS convicted.
Sun Microsystems has they kind of corporate ethics I prefer. They do take stands on important issues like anti-trust and education and the environment. Their executives aren't so (restrained|unconcerned) that they really don't have an opinion on one of the most important issues, technology-wise and economy-wise, of the decade..
Linus reminds me of some of the suburban girls I dated in high school. They didn't really have opinions on anything environmental or ethical or political but they could go on about rock bands or shopping or their favorite TV shows all day long. Some guys like that type. Not me thanks.
The only reason real-estate doesn't work on the web is because realtors mae sure it doesn't work on the web. If you could find a house on the Internet you wouldn't need to pay their monopoly-based 6% commission. First they don't make the MLS available for browsing until it is weeks old, and useless. Then they hold an open house for realtors only. Finally, they try to steer you away from any deal that desn't generate their commissions. It's a racket. Homes would be a lot easier to buy and sell if realtors were paid by the hour.