Are you saying Ben Franklin would agree that it is immoral and wrong for a person to decide that the country he's living in is too corrupt, and that his life would be better elsewhere? Are you really making that argument?
What a bunch of paranoid pu__ies on this website -- always afraid of the "man." The "man" is just any everyguy or everywoman like the rest of us.
Then bow to him. Bend over and let him fuck you....like the fucking pussy you are. lol....what a meek coward you are, and hypocrite to boot. Talk about a pot calling the kettle black....
He's suggesting that it be *privatized*, with no government oversight or accountability at all (even less than there already is)
....and no force of law behind their unlawful detentions? No more harassment that I have to put up with or be arrested? No more "VIPR" teams roaming the highways?
Not only that, it's a fire-on-the-spot offense for anyone else anywhere.
Only at companies run by morons. If anything, Yahoo needs to use this as an example of why they should move away from such retarded thinking, in order to improve as a company.
No, I think a competent person who lied about his credentials to get past a meaningless, corrupt, red taped covered bureaucracy (the whole "people who think degrees mean a fucking thing" thing) is exactly the type of person whom Yahoo needs setting an example. I think that hiring people based on competency and not based on what a worthless scrap of paper says is exactly the right example to set, and is exactly the type of thinking that's needed to get this company back on its feet. So if the CEO is doing a good job, then I say keep him.
It blows my mind how the most insightful post in the entire discussion is a 1, but immediately below it, some ignoramus screaming "FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY!!1" is modded up to 5, Insightful.
When profits are down, investors don't ask the worker, they don't fire the worker, they look at the leadership team. It's not the worker who's neck is on the line if the company is unprofitable, and the worker will most certainly never face lawsuits from investors, the government, and other stakeholders.
Do you really want to live in a society where the rule is you cannot trust the veracity of specific statements made by people?
We already do.
Do you want to have to get every document notarized? Do you want to have to carry your diploma to every job interview? Force merchants to photo copy your ID every time you write a check?
What good would that do? Talk about a non sequitur. Your last example demonstrates why you're wrong: a) checks are stupid...you do know they invented debit cards now? b) it's up to the cashier/business to determine whether to accept the check, based on their GUT INSTINCT...not based on some worthless scrap of paper.
He did what he had to do to get ahead. Nobody checked his credentials and he slipped through for years.
Sorry, I'm siding with the winner (him, and the woman who found him out) vs your buddies, the losers (i.e. anyone who was fooled by his lie.)
Whether or not it worked out he denied the people who chose him the right to consider him based on his actual qualifications.
So? So basically, your argument is they should fire him because they're butt-hurt? Is he doing the damn job he's supposed to be doing, or not? If no, then yeah, here's a great opportunity to get rid of his ass. If yes......WHY the fuck would firing him be a good idea?
There is a lot of money at stake.
Then why would you fire someone for such a meaningless trivial thing as "he fooled me, and made me look embarassed, and now I'm butt-hurt over it"?
Do you think a society in which everyone is permitted to lie on their resume without consequences is a good idea.
Do you think a company ruining its bottom line over what basically amounts to a trivial and stupid thing is a good idea?
Leaving aside for a moment jobs where practicing without a qualification is strictly illegal and a criminal offence (doctor, pilot etc)
...hairstylist, etc.
Yeah, everybody and their mom have to get their cut in the form of licensing fees and certifications....which is the exact reason our economy is such shit today.
All of this bullshit bureaucracy should be permanently abolished. Hell, our Founding Fathers *tried*, but we just couldn't listen. If I trust a doctor, I will allow him to give me medical treatment. If I don't, I won't. Some worthless scrap of paper hanging on his wall changes nothing. Giving it the force and weight of law also changes nothing and really just makes things worse in the end.
consider what would happen if everyone started lying.
Started? Wow.....you are really displaying your naivete now. I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but....... People lie all the time, about much more important and serious things than the words printed on a scrap of paper they received from some worthless institution.
If you live your life believing in things just because someone insists it's so, then you're.....to put it simply and mildly.......a moron who will sooner or later be bent over the table and fucked hard and raw by an opportunist or The Powers That Be. The only solution to this is education, not crying for Big Brother to hold your hand.
Imagine the cost of verifying every qualification, not to mention the privacy issues.
Yes. The cost of being a moron (i.e. expecting a random scrap of paper to tell you anything worthwhile about a person) is often quite high.
I'm no fan of Obama's detention and "due process" nonsense, but it's disingenuous and, as the GP said, "histrionics", to claim that the President is going to disappear you or hit you with an airstrike because you won't donate to his reELECTION campaign. Emphasis intentional, since even in this dystopian post-apocalyptic hellscape, he can still lose the election and there's not a damn thing he can do. Big difference to any of the countries like Belize, where you actually can get arrested for not "donating".
You really, really need to wake up. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP, YOU FUCKING MORON! How else can I put it? This would-be dictator WANTS the power to disappear you or hit you with an airstrike, JUST BECAUSE! He already did it to an innocent 16 year old American citizen.....what more proof do you need, you BLIND, STUPID apologist?
When a sudden catastrophe occurs in August or September which results in Obama declaring a state of emergency and declaring martial law.....in the process, clamping down on this list of "criminals" (aka political enemies) who have been "evading justice for far too long".......WHAT WILL YOUR EXCUSE BE THEN?
Go look at what happened to John McAfee and be thankful you fucktards still have your house and your pets and your family with you.
The conservative histrionics this year is just out of this world.
Hello? The War on Drugs? NDAA, CISPA, and other tyrannical Acts which make the Patriot Act look like a fucking joke? Wake up you stupid prick! We are living in a DICTATORSHIP aka POLICE STATE.
Why are you shocked and surprised? This happens every day in the United States in drug raids. Whole family is sitting down to dinner, just chilling one evening, then the door explodes (gotta love those no-knock warrants) while armed thugs swarm in, family dog gets a bullet (well that pomeranian could have gotten a cop and given him an infection ya know), kids are screaming while mom and dad are roughly thrown to the ground. Thugs take their time searching through the house and snickering loudly at mom's sex toys. Sometimes people even get shot for absolutely no reason.
Welcome to the creeping tyranny of a police state. Not so fun to actually be a part of one, is it?
He flees from the US to some tax haven so he won't have to repay society for all the money he extracted.
I'm sorry that you're jealous of McAfee and mad about how worthless your life is and how it will never amount to anything, but you're only making yourself look stupid by talking about him "extracting" money. What the fuck are you even talking about? He created a product, offered it for sale, and people bought it. At no point did he deceive or lie to anyone about what the product does. What's so wrong with that......you loud mouthed prick?
McAfee doesn't owe you or anyone else a fucking thing, so stop acting like a petty bitch. Pull up your big girl panties and go make your own millions selling your own software.
Society enabled him; that results in a moral debt which he should repay.
LOL....sorry, no. I didn't ask to come into this world, and neither did McAfee. He doesn't owe anyone a fucking thing, least of all you and your corrupt "society." Our Founding Fathers would shake their head in disgust at your idea.
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Really ? A person is defined as "no good" if they move to a foreign country to avoid corruption in this one?
Are you kidding me? Use Google.
Are you saying Ben Franklin would agree that it is immoral and wrong for a person to decide that the country he's living in is too corrupt, and that his life would be better elsewhere? Are you really making that argument?
What a bunch of paranoid pu__ies on this website -- always afraid of the "man." The "man" is just any everyguy or everywoman like the rest of us.
Then bow to him. Bend over and let him fuck you....like the fucking pussy you are. lol....what a meek coward you are, and hypocrite to boot. Talk about a pot calling the kettle black....
You damn Paulites, and your outdated nonsense about freedom!
Agreed. Lift all these restrictions, and our economy would massively boom overnight.
He's suggesting that it be *privatized*, with no government oversight or accountability at all (even less than there already is)
....and no force of law behind their unlawful detentions? No more harassment that I have to put up with or be arrested? No more "VIPR" teams roaming the highways?
GOOD.
Not only that, it's a fire-on-the-spot offense for anyone else anywhere.
Only at companies run by morons. If anything, Yahoo needs to use this as an example of why they should move away from such retarded thinking, in order to improve as a company.
No, I think a competent person who lied about his credentials to get past a meaningless, corrupt, red taped covered bureaucracy (the whole "people who think degrees mean a fucking thing" thing) is exactly the type of person whom Yahoo needs setting an example. I think that hiring people based on competency and not based on what a worthless scrap of paper says is exactly the right example to set, and is exactly the type of thinking that's needed to get this company back on its feet. So if the CEO is doing a good job, then I say keep him.
It blows my mind how the most insightful post in the entire discussion is a 1, but immediately below it, some ignoramus screaming "FIRE HIM IMMEDIATELY!!1" is modded up to 5, Insightful.
I must be new around here.
I know, right? That company is a festering shit-pile of bad ethics. Anyone who comes out of there is tainted.
When profits are down, investors don't ask the worker, they don't fire the worker, they look at the leadership team. It's not the worker who's neck is on the line if the company is unprofitable, and the worker will most certainly never face lawsuits from investors, the government, and other stakeholders.
"Bullshit rolls downhill"
Falsifying credentials at hire time are usually grounds for immediate termination, regardless of how long you have worked for a company.
Sure....at a company run by chimps. Other, brighter organizations see more subtlety to this scenario than your inflexible black and white worldview.
Do you really want to live in a society where the rule is you cannot trust the veracity of specific statements made by people?
We already do.
Do you want to have to get every document notarized? Do you want to have to carry your diploma to every job interview? Force merchants to photo copy your ID every time you write a check?
What good would that do? Talk about a non sequitur. Your last example demonstrates why you're wrong: a) checks are stupid...you do know they invented debit cards now? b) it's up to the cashier/business to determine whether to accept the check, based on their GUT INSTINCT...not based on some worthless scrap of paper.
He committed fraud.
He did what he had to do to get ahead. Nobody checked his credentials and he slipped through for years.
Sorry, I'm siding with the winner (him, and the woman who found him out) vs your buddies, the losers (i.e. anyone who was fooled by his lie.)
Whether or not it worked out he denied the people who chose him the right to consider him based on his actual qualifications.
So? So basically, your argument is they should fire him because they're butt-hurt? Is he doing the damn job he's supposed to be doing, or not? If no, then yeah, here's a great opportunity to get rid of his ass. If yes......WHY the fuck would firing him be a good idea?
There is a lot of money at stake.
Then why would you fire someone for such a meaningless trivial thing as "he fooled me, and made me look embarassed, and now I'm butt-hurt over it"?
Do you think a society in which everyone is permitted to lie on their resume without consequences is a good idea.
Do you think a company ruining its bottom line over what basically amounts to a trivial and stupid thing is a good idea?
Leaving aside for a moment jobs where practicing without a qualification is strictly illegal and a criminal offence (doctor, pilot etc)
...hairstylist, etc.
Yeah, everybody and their mom have to get their cut in the form of licensing fees and certifications....which is the exact reason our economy is such shit today.
All of this bullshit bureaucracy should be permanently abolished. Hell, our Founding Fathers *tried*, but we just couldn't listen. If I trust a doctor, I will allow him to give me medical treatment. If I don't, I won't. Some worthless scrap of paper hanging on his wall changes nothing. Giving it the force and weight of law also changes nothing and really just makes things worse in the end.
consider what would happen if everyone started lying.
Started? Wow.....you are really displaying your naivete now. I'm sorry to be the one to inform you, but ....... People lie all the time, about much more important and serious things than the words printed on a scrap of paper they received from some worthless institution.
If you live your life believing in things just because someone insists it's so, then you're.....to put it simply and mildly.......a moron who will sooner or later be bent over the table and fucked hard and raw by an opportunist or The Powers That Be. The only solution to this is education, not crying for Big Brother to hold your hand.
Imagine the cost of verifying every qualification, not to mention the privacy issues.
Yes. The cost of being a moron (i.e. expecting a random scrap of paper to tell you anything worthwhile about a person) is often quite high.
an accountant is usually known to be truthful, due to certifications taken to become an accountant
if you were to be an accountant, you wouldn't be a liar, as that isn't in the code of conduct
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
You must be an aspie.
I'm no fan of Obama's detention and "due process" nonsense, but it's disingenuous and, as the GP said, "histrionics", to claim that the President is going to disappear you or hit you with an airstrike because you won't donate to his reELECTION campaign. Emphasis intentional, since even in this dystopian post-apocalyptic hellscape, he can still lose the election and there's not a damn thing he can do. Big difference to any of the countries like Belize, where you actually can get arrested for not "donating".
You really, really need to wake up. THAT'S THE NEXT STEP, YOU FUCKING MORON! How else can I put it? This would-be dictator WANTS the power to disappear you or hit you with an airstrike, JUST BECAUSE! He already did it to an innocent 16 year old American citizen.....what more proof do you need, you BLIND, STUPID apologist?
When a sudden catastrophe occurs in August or September which results in Obama declaring a state of emergency and declaring martial law.....in the process, clamping down on this list of "criminals" (aka political enemies) who have been "evading justice for far too long".......WHAT WILL YOUR EXCUSE BE THEN?
Go look at what happened to John McAfee and be thankful you fucktards still have your house and your pets and your family with you.
The conservative histrionics this year is just out of this world.
Hello? The War on Drugs? NDAA, CISPA, and other tyrannical Acts which make the Patriot Act look like a fucking joke? Wake up you stupid prick! We are living in a DICTATORSHIP aka POLICE STATE.
Unfortunately, bribes are the norm in all countries.
Of course, because that's exactly what the cop and all his buddies agreed happened while filling out the paperwork.
Are you seriously naive enough to believe such a lie?
Why are you shocked and surprised? This happens every day in the United States in drug raids. Whole family is sitting down to dinner, just chilling one evening, then the door explodes (gotta love those no-knock warrants) while armed thugs swarm in, family dog gets a bullet (well that pomeranian could have gotten a cop and given him an infection ya know), kids are screaming while mom and dad are roughly thrown to the ground. Thugs take their time searching through the house and snickering loudly at mom's sex toys. Sometimes people even get shot for absolutely no reason.
Welcome to the creeping tyranny of a police state. Not so fun to actually be a part of one, is it?
No, "fatally wounded" means not instantly killed, but it will die from its wounds no matter what. "Mortally wounded" is what you're thinking of.
In case of Katz, alcoholism is a self-inflicted thing
He was depressed, you fucking self-absorbed moron
He flees from the US to some tax haven so he won't have to repay society for all the money he extracted.
I'm sorry that you're jealous of McAfee and mad about how worthless your life is and how it will never amount to anything, but you're only making yourself look stupid by talking about him "extracting" money. What the fuck are you even talking about? He created a product, offered it for sale, and people bought it. At no point did he deceive or lie to anyone about what the product does. What's so wrong with that......you loud mouthed prick?
McAfee doesn't owe you or anyone else a fucking thing, so stop acting like a petty bitch. Pull up your big girl panties and go make your own millions selling your own software.
Society enabled him; that results in a moral debt which he should repay.
LOL....sorry, no. I didn't ask to come into this world, and neither did McAfee. He doesn't owe anyone a fucking thing, least of all you and your corrupt "society." Our Founding Fathers would shake their head in disgust at your idea.