He's right. Actually it has happened. Ms. State Universty can use up darn near all the bandwidth and then we get very little. I have reached speeds of 1000K/s and as slow as 3K/s on our schools's T3 line. Granted the 1000K/s was during the summer months on a download from the school library. But is someone brings down the switch in Jackson it is lights out for Ms State and Ole Miss.
Pretty well sux
Nope I don't see the problem with this. Hacking ( actually phreaking in this case) has pushed many technologies to develop into new, and often better directions.
As for the CD thing get over the fact that we are alway's gonna be able to get free music. ALWAY'S. I don't want to go into that in this post since it isn't about the ( very much still alive) MP3 boom.
So no I don't think many people phreak any more, and if they do who cares. Damn I mean if they are smart enough to make a free phone call power to 'em, I don't think AT&T is gonna lose to much sleep over th issue.
I don't really no were to start. I disagree with so many statements made by the author. For one I do believe that most people want more control. TO say that p2p won't make it is a little premature. I mean it is still in it's infancy. The www didn't just spring up over night. Sure there are things wrong with Freenet and other p2p technologies, but don't we ( the open source community) solve these issues almost as fast as they spring up. Sure some of these technologies will start out as a way to get free music, but to say that it will stop there is absurd. who back in the BBS day's would have thought the internet would be what it is today. I personally love the idea of Freenet, yes I am a techie if you will. I also have freinds that don't even know how to check e-mial. I hate to say it but the world isn't going to wait on my friend to learn how to check his e-mial. Also saying that people have to understand a technology before they will use it is complete crap. Next time you are in you school computer lab ask any person in there how the internet works. I bet not a single person there will give an intelligent answer, yet they are using it. Why? WHy do you think. It is a cool technology that has grown to a state of exsistence where people don't have to understand the ins and out's of DNS TCP/IP and other protocols to use the internet.
When are we as a nation going to quit fighting the outcome of a problem instead of addressing the problem itself. Example in medicine we trr to find cures for a disease, instead of trying to fix the reason we got the disease in the first place. MP3 is another great example. Does anyone really think MP3 trading is gone. hehe Don't be foolosh. Until our government addresses some real issues ( not attacking a single company (Napster)) they will only spark people to try harder. Hell if you want an easy way to trade MP3's then do like we have done at the university of Mississippi and create a Samba share called MP3 and make it publicly accessibly. Hell it is better than Napster for a couple of reasons. 1) there is no central server, 2) you don't even have to download the songs. You can just mount the share and listen from there. That certainly isn't illegal, unless letting your freind listen to your new CD is illegal. I am not here to push the Samba methos, although it does seem to work good for us.
Personally I hope the Music industry fails miserably. Not because I think all music should be free, but because of the way they handled the new technologies. I mean now they think they are gonna keep us from recording our CD's except to tape. HA. Hell MP3 is about as good a quality as a tape anyway. So copy it to tape convert it back to digital, compress it to MP3 and bam back to wre we started. If that doesn'
t work I promise it will be craxked inside of 2 weeks.
Ok so they mentioned that we wwould still be able to copy it to cassette tapes.
Well cassette is about the sam equility as MP3 anyway. Once again they loose.
Even if I am wrong ( I only put about 5 sec worth of thought into this ) someone will within two weeks find a hack, write up the code, stick it up on freenet and bam back to were we are now.
I can promise that I will be one of the first in line to buy the disk, but only so I might also be the first to get past copy protection. I am sure I will probably not be the first as some insider will more than likely do it first.
In short I think at best it will last for 2 weeks before it is hacked, and 2 weeks after that it will spread to the masses outside of slashdot.
Hack on.
Having just finished a Graduate Quantum Chemistry class. I can assure all here that what these people did is very possible. Just out of curiosity janpod66 were did you study your physics? QM? obiously if you even took QM you had no understanding. Prolly just one of those peole that takes it, crunches numbers, gets by with a C, and clains to understand QM.
Be the change you wish to see in the world --Ghandi
Anyone not using liguid N2 better know what they are doing. liguid Oxygen can be very explosive. Helium. not to bad, but Nitrogen is cheaper and has a much olower freezing point.
I would notie a difference, but I develope neural network programs which take a lot of time to train. However I am much less interested in the MHz of the processor than most. Cache size is very important for big calculations.
Besides as long as they keep putting out better processors I will have a reason to stay in debt.
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He's right. Actually it has happened. Ms. State Universty can use up darn near all the bandwidth and then we get very little. I have reached speeds of 1000K/s and as slow as 3K/s on our schools's T3 line. Granted the 1000K/s was during the summer months on a download from the school library. But is someone brings down the switch in Jackson it is lights out for Ms State and Ole Miss. Pretty well sux
Nope I don't see the problem with this. Hacking ( actually phreaking in this case) has pushed many technologies to develop into new, and often better directions. As for the CD thing get over the fact that we are alway's gonna be able to get free music. ALWAY'S. I don't want to go into that in this post since it isn't about the ( very much still alive) MP3 boom. So no I don't think many people phreak any more, and if they do who cares. Damn I mean if they are smart enough to make a free phone call power to 'em, I don't think AT&T is gonna lose to much sleep over th issue.
I don't really no were to start. I disagree with so many statements made by the author. For one I do believe that most people want more control. TO say that p2p won't make it is a little premature. I mean it is still in it's infancy. The www didn't just spring up over night. Sure there are things wrong with Freenet and other p2p technologies, but don't we ( the open source community) solve these issues almost as fast as they spring up. Sure some of these technologies will start out as a way to get free music, but to say that it will stop there is absurd. who back in the BBS day's would have thought the internet would be what it is today. I personally love the idea of Freenet, yes I am a techie if you will. I also have freinds that don't even know how to check e-mial. I hate to say it but the world isn't going to wait on my friend to learn how to check his e-mial. Also saying that people have to understand a technology before they will use it is complete crap. Next time you are in you school computer lab ask any person in there how the internet works. I bet not a single person there will give an intelligent answer, yet they are using it. Why? WHy do you think. It is a cool technology that has grown to a state of exsistence where people don't have to understand the ins and out's of DNS TCP/IP and other protocols to use the internet. When are we as a nation going to quit fighting the outcome of a problem instead of addressing the problem itself. Example in medicine we trr to find cures for a disease, instead of trying to fix the reason we got the disease in the first place. MP3 is another great example. Does anyone really think MP3 trading is gone. hehe Don't be foolosh. Until our government addresses some real issues ( not attacking a single company (Napster)) they will only spark people to try harder. Hell if you want an easy way to trade MP3's then do like we have done at the university of Mississippi and create a Samba share called MP3 and make it publicly accessibly. Hell it is better than Napster for a couple of reasons. 1) there is no central server, 2) you don't even have to download the songs. You can just mount the share and listen from there. That certainly isn't illegal, unless letting your freind listen to your new CD is illegal. I am not here to push the Samba methos, although it does seem to work good for us. Personally I hope the Music industry fails miserably. Not because I think all music should be free, but because of the way they handled the new technologies. I mean now they think they are gonna keep us from recording our CD's except to tape. HA. Hell MP3 is about as good a quality as a tape anyway. So copy it to tape convert it back to digital, compress it to MP3 and bam back to wre we started. If that doesn' t work I promise it will be craxked inside of 2 weeks.
Ok so they mentioned that we wwould still be able to copy it to cassette tapes. Well cassette is about the sam equility as MP3 anyway. Once again they loose. Even if I am wrong ( I only put about 5 sec worth of thought into this ) someone will within two weeks find a hack, write up the code, stick it up on freenet and bam back to were we are now. I can promise that I will be one of the first in line to buy the disk, but only so I might also be the first to get past copy protection. I am sure I will probably not be the first as some insider will more than likely do it first. In short I think at best it will last for 2 weeks before it is hacked, and 2 weeks after that it will spread to the masses outside of slashdot. Hack on.
I jumped down the wrong persons throat on that one. Lets redirect those words to annoymous coward
Having just finished a Graduate Quantum Chemistry class. I can assure all here that what these people did is very possible. Just out of curiosity janpod66 were did you study your physics? QM? obiously if you even took QM you had no understanding. Prolly just one of those peole that takes it, crunches numbers, gets by with a C, and clains to understand QM. Be the change you wish to see in the world --Ghandi
Anyone not using liguid N2 better know what they are doing. liguid Oxygen can be very explosive. Helium. not to bad, but Nitrogen is cheaper and has a much olower freezing point.
I would notie a difference, but I develope neural network programs which take a lot of time to train. However I am much less interested in the MHz of the processor than most. Cache size is very important for big calculations. Besides as long as they keep putting out better processors I will have a reason to stay in debt.