The Catholic church tells you exactly what they want you to hear.
Every organization only tells people what they want them to hear. You only tell people what you want them to hear.
Otherwise, if people found out all the info behind the Catholic church, it would probably fold.
Now that has to be one of the most naive things I've ever read on Slashdot. The Church is the most well-documented entities in history. Do you really think the Spanish Inquisition is a secret to the nearly 1 Billion practicing Catholics? Or the corrupt pre-Reformation Papacy? Please tell us where we can find more information on the secret history of the Catholic Church that only you are privy to. Otherwise, stop speculating and wait for the project to be finished. A little praise for an organization spending money to put its privately-held collection of valuable historical documents online mostly for the benifit of non-Catholic linguists, historians, and other scholars would be appreciated.
"Even" for the Vatican? That's like saying the estimate was too much "even for Cleveland". The Vatican is just a city made out of a museum, with a really famous person living there. It's only rich culturally.
You're right, your analogy was terrible. Arrow keys are not a CLI. Pressing "->" once to make the car go right is not issuing a command, typing "steer -r" and pressing ENTER is, though. AND, the steering wheel is only half of the GUI. The windsheild is the other half. How would you play DEscent if you had to navigate through a text-based maze and fight enemies by typing at them?
Meatspace analogies are fun, but usually serve no purpose whatsoever.
OK, geek. "Meatspace" is where you and everything around you exists. Try not to forget that. Remember also that humans do not think in ones and zeroes. They interact with their environment (and that includes computers) through their senses, paramount being sight. Real-world analogies are the only ones that even make sense, or are useful in any way. Comparing apples to oranges is not only unavoidable, it's the only way to describe apples to someone who has only had oranges. I'm a programmer by trade, and people like you give us all a bad name.
As for my original point - a steering wheel may be easier to use in some cases than a CLI, but it's still not simpler.:)
Do you mean more intuitive? What could be more intuitive than turning the wheel in the direction you want the car to go? TYPING instructions in pigeon english into a keyboard??? Are you insane?? Wake up and read what you right. For real.
Oh, and unless you believe in a deity of some sort (as I realize many people do), nothing in life exists for a "reason".
Uh, hi. What's the reason things fall down? What was the reason you got out of bed this morning? All things indeed do happen for a reason, God or no. The reason life has a GUI is that we have senses that we use to interact with our environment.
Uh, yeah. Real simple. I can't wait until I have to memorize archaic and nonsensical commands to feed myself. You also neglected to expound upon the contents of "driving-instructions.sh. Attention geeks: power != simplicity.
Try typing instructions into the steering wheel of your car, and see how well that works out. Maybe you could get a printed list of items inside your fridge, and after executing other commands to find out the expiration date, and how much of the item was left, you could type the name of the item, and it would appear. OR, you could just reach in and grab the milk and smell it. LIFE HAS A GUI FOR A REASON.
Wel, no. Because of the terms of the EULA which state that you may resell or give away said software in its entirety. Group licensing is different. The end users don't have to click through a EULA at all. All license terms are negotiated at time of sale, by lawyers.
A "dance" radio station started broadcasting in dallas recently, it is ok but is very repetitive
Just "OK"? I listen to pretty much nothing else. Any radio station that plays 20,000 songs in a row (!) kicks ass, IMO, no matter how many songs they replay. True, if I hear "Gotta Get Thru This" one more time... but, still, it shows a lot of potential.
There is no difference if it results in a potential loss of sales or revenue.
Nope. Just because the two share an attribute does not make them the same. Both suicide and murder result in the loss of a life, but are totally different events. Both totalling your car in a collision and selling your car result in your inability to use your car, yet they are not the same thing.
In fact, your analogy isn't even that correct. You say that both piracy and theft result in a potential loss of revenue. Actually, theft results in an actual loss of revenue (and, of course, property), where piracy results in a potential loss of revenue. That's like booking every drunk driver for vehicular homicide.
Long story short: every pirated copy of something does not cost the company that wrote that something its retail price.
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"Microsoft really knows how to turn up the pain on its customers," says Nat. "It's like The Princess Bride, in the scene where he cranked up the pain."
Besides, growth and wealth are not the only measure of a country's success.
Neither is number of weeks' vacation.
How about child poverty, access to healthcare, equality of opportunity, wage gap between the richest and poorest, protection of citizens wellbeing against the excesses of corporations
How about it? All of those things are only pertinent if considering the poorest of our population over here. Fortunately for us, our middle class are your upper class. How many square feet is your apartment/house? Where did your doctor go to school? How much does a pack of smokes cost? How much does a meal at a decent restaraunt cost? Most importantly, why does the world seem to hate us, but at the same time, you all want to live here? Maybe not you, or some of the other respondents here, but millions of attempted immigrants are turned down every year. Immigrants from some of the countries you mention. Yes, we may have more poor, but we have far more rich. Depends on what's yr cup o' tea.
As a nation the USA may be very wealthy, but you have serious problems regarding poverty, education, pollution, economic racial segregation.
Thanks for pointing those out. Meanwhile, your economy is a joke, your military is a joke, and your empire, built on the backs of oppressed people around the world, just got done collapsing less than a century ago. Oh, and thanks for the neo-nazi movement, too. One of our favorite British imports, next to the Spice Girls.
which is why your constitution has become the plaything of Mickey Mouse and the RIAA. Your politicians live on bribes and yet you still elect them.
Do you mean the constitution which has become the model for government worldwide? Oh, yeah, that one. How many wars have we gotten the UK out of now? 3, including the one we won. Our economy and military is why most of the world hasn't dissolved into chaos, and taken your fragile nation with it. Respect that, and don't ever forget it.
Show me *any* television show (besides ST:TNG of course, hehe) worth watching in *any* country.
OK, got me there, but...
Show me an American movie worth watching.
Donnie Darko? Rushmore? A Clockwork Orange?
Aren't you forgetting about the Axis powers of Germany and Japan as well as the smaller tigers of the east...
No, I'm not. They are manufacturing powerhouses, to be sure, but were it not for Edison, Ford, et al, they'd have nothing to build.
This is exactly the kind of response that makes the rest of the world dislike Americans...
Yeah, I know, and I hate to behave this way, but I won't stand idly by and let some internet dude call our great nation a rotten police state, sorry. Nothing wrong with being a fan of the country you live in, right? You think I'm bad, ask a Sox fan how they feel about the Yankees.
No, jackoff, Brazil is in The Americas, or maybe South America. Show me a region of the world outside the US borders called simply "America", and I'll go down on your mom. Again. Now stop nitpicking, and start thinking.
I like how if you express an unpopular opinion, you are a troll.
No, only when you throw around generalizations without a shred of evidence.
Show me how the quality of life for an average U.S. citizen has been improving for the last 30 years. Because it hasn't.
Show me a foriegn television show anyone finds worth watching! Show me the foriegn-language version of/.! Show me which country invented and continues to invent nearly every single thing you use nearly every single day.
Well, you kinda have to back up your own assertions around here, not just make them, and challenge others to knock them down.
What better place to unleash your mercenary fervour?
Why don't you give your computer to a homeless guy, there, Mother Theresa? In the meantime, we'll all keep feeding our kids as well as we can, and if you think there's a country on earth immune to greed, you're wrong. We just happen to be better at success. Sorry. If you don't like it, too bad. Maybe when we finally get around to annexing your country, we'll let you help name it.
My grandparents came from a little country town to a much larger town, without nothing, and two generations later, I'm a highly paid professional, also cruising/.. This didn't happen in the USA, not even in America. This is possible in a lot of places.
See my response to the AC post above. Not with anywhere near the regularity. It's possible outside the US, but how possible? And where is it you're referring to? BRAZIL? Are you crazy?? With an infant mortality rate of 36/1000 and 73% of their people working in either the service industry or agriculture, I think your grandparents were a fluke. Next!
What about them? I'll amend my statement to include "with such regularity". Western Europe? Maybe, except that the population of Germany is actually shrinking (-.1%), with an unemployment rate of almost 10%. England is growing at the rate of only.1%. The US is growing at 5 times that, with an unemployment rate that's 20% lower than England, and half that of Germany. I'm guessing that Asia is not going to fare much better. The only region of the world that looks statistically better is scandanavia, but reports from friends come back that it's BORING.
Love it or hate it, the US is a great place to live.
I look forward to seeing more of this American Dream. I will be sure to take notes and laugh. Just remember this... self-inflicted wounds deserve no pity.
OK, troll, I'll bite:
My great-grandparents came to the US with nothing. Two generations later, I am a highly-paid engineer, cruising Slashdot all day. Tell me, where else in the world is that possible? The American Dream is alive and well, which is why millions of foriegners flock to the US every year. Sure, the war on drugs is a load of crap, but here I can say that without fear of reprisal. I don't need your pity, and you can take your jealousy with it, thanks.
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The Catholic church tells you exactly what they want you to hear.
Every organization only tells people what they want them to hear. You only tell people what you want them to hear.
Otherwise, if people found out all the info behind the Catholic church, it would probably fold.
Now that has to be one of the most naive things I've ever read on Slashdot. The Church is the most well-documented entities in history. Do you really think the Spanish Inquisition is a secret to the nearly 1 Billion practicing Catholics? Or the corrupt pre-Reformation Papacy? Please tell us where we can find more information on the secret history of the Catholic Church that only you are privy to. Otherwise, stop speculating and wait for the project to be finished. A little praise for an organization spending money to put its privately-held collection of valuable historical documents online mostly for the benifit of non-Catholic linguists, historians, and other scholars would be appreciated.
"Even" for the Vatican? That's like saying the estimate was too much "even for Cleveland". The Vatican is just a city made out of a museum, with a really famous person living there. It's only rich culturally.
Probably, the price was right.
Thanks. Very mature of you. More /. posters should be as considerate.
Or will it jsut put texts to show the struggle of the cahtholic religon to make it look more appealign to the general public?
Spelling aside, why would the Vatican care what 1400 texts people read online? Your experience as a Catholic must be limited to a pew.
Bad analogy.
You're right, your analogy was terrible. Arrow keys are not a CLI. Pressing "->" once to make the car go right is not issuing a command, typing "steer -r" and pressing ENTER is, though. AND, the steering wheel is only half of the GUI. The windsheild is the other half. How would you play DEscent if you had to navigate through a text-based maze and fight enemies by typing at them?
Man, Don't you know computers was invented for a reason too ;))
You should automate things with them, not repeat..
I agree. That would be more powerful, but not simpler, which was the topic.
Meatspace analogies are fun, but usually serve no purpose whatsoever.
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OK, geek. "Meatspace" is where you and everything around you exists. Try not to forget that. Remember also that humans do not think in ones and zeroes. They interact with their environment (and that includes computers) through their senses, paramount being sight. Real-world analogies are the only ones that even make sense, or are useful in any way. Comparing apples to oranges is not only unavoidable, it's the only way to describe apples to someone who has only had oranges. I'm a programmer by trade, and people like you give us all a bad name.
As for my original point - a steering wheel may be easier to use in some cases than a CLI, but it's still not simpler.
Do you mean more intuitive? What could be more intuitive than turning the wheel in the direction you want the car to go? TYPING instructions in pigeon english into a keyboard??? Are you insane?? Wake up and read what you right. For real.
Oh, and unless you believe in a deity of some sort (as I realize many people do), nothing in life exists for a "reason".
Uh, hi. What's the reason things fall down? What was the reason you got out of bed this morning? All things indeed do happen for a reason, God or no. The reason life has a GUI is that we have senses that we use to interact with our environment.
sh -x ~/driving-instructions.sh && cat /dev/fridge/contents && && ls -alH ~ && df -h -T && echo item && find / -name milk
Uh, yeah. Real simple. I can't wait until I have to memorize archaic and nonsensical commands to feed myself. You also neglected to expound upon the contents of "driving-instructions.sh. Attention geeks: power != simplicity.
Try typing instructions into the steering wheel of your car, and see how well that works out. Maybe you could get a printed list of items inside your fridge, and after executing other commands to find out the expiration date, and how much of the item was left, you could type the name of the item, and it would appear. OR, you could just reach in and grab the milk and smell it. LIFE HAS A GUI FOR A REASON.
"well", not "wel". Sorry.
Wel, no. Because of the terms of the EULA which state that you may resell or give away said software in its entirety. Group licensing is different. The end users don't have to click through a EULA at all. All license terms are negotiated at time of sale, by lawyers.
A "dance" radio station started broadcasting in dallas recently, it is ok but is very repetitive
Just "OK"? I listen to pretty much nothing else. Any radio station that plays 20,000 songs in a row (!) kicks ass, IMO, no matter how many songs they replay. True, if I hear "Gotta Get Thru This" one more time... but, still, it shows a lot of potential.
How would you restart IIS or whatever thru the cli?
Net start "servicename"
You're right, the Open Source community is much better at playing catch-up than innovating anyway.
There is no difference if it results in a potential loss of sales or revenue.
Nope. Just because the two share an attribute does not make them the same. Both suicide and murder result in the loss of a life, but are totally different events. Both totalling your car in a collision and selling your car result in your inability to use your car, yet they are not the same thing.
In fact, your analogy isn't even that correct. You say that both piracy and theft result in a potential loss of revenue. Actually, theft results in an actual loss of revenue (and, of course, property), where piracy results in a potential loss of revenue. That's like booking every drunk driver for vehicular homicide.
Long story short: every pirated copy of something does not cost the company that wrote that something its retail price.
I know. Not enough characters in the sig field for the whol-
"Microsoft really knows how to turn up the pain on its customers," says Nat. "It's like The Princess Bride, in the scene where he cranked up the pain."
Besides, growth and wealth are not the only measure of a country's success.
Neither is number of weeks' vacation.
How about child poverty, access to healthcare, equality of opportunity, wage gap between the richest and poorest, protection of citizens wellbeing against the excesses of corporations
How about it? All of those things are only pertinent if considering the poorest of our population over here. Fortunately for us, our middle class are your upper class. How many square feet is your apartment/house? Where did your doctor go to school? How much does a pack of smokes cost? How much does a meal at a decent restaraunt cost? Most importantly, why does the world seem to hate us, but at the same time, you all want to live here? Maybe not you, or some of the other respondents here, but millions of attempted immigrants are turned down every year. Immigrants from some of the countries you mention. Yes, we may have more poor, but we have far more rich. Depends on what's yr cup o' tea.
As a nation the USA may be very wealthy, but you have serious problems regarding poverty, education, pollution, economic racial segregation.
Thanks for pointing those out. Meanwhile, your economy is a joke, your military is a joke, and your empire, built on the backs of oppressed people around the world, just got done collapsing less than a century ago. Oh, and thanks for the neo-nazi movement, too. One of our favorite British imports, next to the Spice Girls.
which is why your constitution has become the plaything of Mickey Mouse and the RIAA. Your politicians live on bribes and yet you still elect them.
Do you mean the constitution which has become the model for government worldwide? Oh, yeah, that one. How many wars have we gotten the UK out of now? 3, including the one we won. Our economy and military is why most of the world hasn't dissolved into chaos, and taken your fragile nation with it. Respect that, and don't ever forget it.
Show me *any* television show (besides ST:TNG of course, hehe) worth watching in *any* country.
...
OK, got me there, but...
Show me an American movie worth watching.
Donnie Darko? Rushmore? A Clockwork Orange?
Aren't you forgetting about the Axis powers of Germany and Japan as well as the smaller tigers of the east
No, I'm not. They are manufacturing powerhouses, to be sure, but were it not for Edison, Ford, et al, they'd have nothing to build.
This is exactly the kind of response that makes the rest of the world dislike Americans...
Yeah, I know, and I hate to behave this way, but I won't stand idly by and let some internet dude call our great nation a rotten police state, sorry. Nothing wrong with being a fan of the country you live in, right? You think I'm bad, ask a Sox fan how they feel about the Yankees.
No, jackoff, Brazil is in The Americas, or maybe South America. Show me a region of the world outside the US borders called simply "America", and I'll go down on your mom. Again. Now stop nitpicking, and start thinking.
I like how if you express an unpopular opinion, you are a troll.
No, only when you throw around generalizations without a shred of evidence.
Show me how the quality of life for an average U.S. citizen has been improving for the last 30 years. Because it hasn't.
Show me a foriegn television show anyone finds worth watching! Show me the foriegn-language version of
Well, you kinda have to back up your own assertions around here, not just make them, and challenge others to knock them down.
What better place to unleash your mercenary fervour?
Why don't you give your computer to a homeless guy, there, Mother Theresa? In the meantime, we'll all keep feeding our kids as well as we can, and if you think there's a country on earth immune to greed, you're wrong. We just happen to be better at success. Sorry. If you don't like it, too bad. Maybe when we finally get around to annexing your country, we'll let you help name it.
My grandparents came from a little country town to a much larger town, without nothing, and two generations later, I'm a highly paid professional, also cruising /.. This didn't happen in the USA, not even in America. This is possible in a lot of places.
See my response to the AC post above. Not with anywhere near the regularity. It's possible outside the US, but how possible? And where is it you're referring to? BRAZIL? Are you crazy?? With an infant mortality rate of 36/1000 and 73% of their people working in either the service industry or agriculture, I think your grandparents were a fluke. Next!
What about them? I'll amend my statement to include "with such regularity". Western Europe? Maybe, except that the population of Germany is actually shrinking (-.1%), with an unemployment rate of almost 10%. England is growing at the rate of only .1%. The US is growing at 5 times that, with an unemployment rate that's 20% lower than England, and half that of Germany. I'm guessing that Asia is not going to fare much better. The only region of the world that looks statistically better is scandanavia, but reports from friends come back that it's BORING.
Love it or hate it, the US is a great place to live.
I look forward to seeing more of this American Dream. I will be sure to take notes and laugh. Just remember this... self-inflicted wounds deserve no pity.
OK, troll, I'll bite:
My great-grandparents came to the US with nothing. Two generations later, I am a highly-paid engineer, cruising Slashdot all day. Tell me, where else in the world is that possible? The American Dream is alive and well, which is why millions of foriegners flock to the US every year. Sure, the war on drugs is a load of crap, but here I can say that without fear of reprisal. I don't need your pity, and you can take your jealousy with it, thanks.