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  1. Re:Copying music is stealing on EFF Releases Public Music License · · Score: 1

    Wow, the ridiculous EFF has done it again. Don't you people realize what we've been trying to drill into your head all along? Copying music is stealing.

    Even when someone has given permission? Amazing. To me, stealing is taking something without permission. If I have permission, say someone gives the thing to me, then I don't think its stealing. But then I think having a copyright means the owner can give the thing away. I suppose if you use the standard that only certain people/corporations can hold a copyright, certainly not the creator, then yes, all copying of music can be stealing because the creater can not give permission to someone else to copy the work, because the creator can't own it.

    I prefer the view where the creator, at least originally, owns the copyright. They can then sell it, give it away, or trade it. But, I think the copyright owner should be allowed to give their stuff away. I've given copyrights on written materials to others as gifts. They didn't steal those poems or stories.

    Stealing is wrong. Think about it: would you steal your mom's music just because she marked it (O)?

    Yes. I would consider it something given to me. Simple.

    Cambridge Dictionary Online:
    steal (TAKE AWAY) verb; to take (something) without the permission or knowledge of the owner and keep it

    Note the use of the word permission. Also note use of the word knowledge. In this phrase it is in an 'or' clause. Meaning only one of these conditions has to be true.

    I've seen the creative redefintion of 'stealing' where all copying is theft before and have always wondered where it came from. But then I'm so old fashioned I think freedom means letting people do things.