P.S: Egyptian ppl are known to be very hospitable, its in their culture
Egyptians are, but when you get out of cairo, you get the sellers always swamping tourists. I think it really negatively effects tourists comming again.
Thanks. I was replying to someone saying that debian should recompile everything for i686, and be quite rude about it, without any evidence that it would actually make a difference. 9% is a good improvement. But also remember that I believe they are compilied for 686, but with support for 386. ( I get the march and mcpu mixed up - but one being 686 and one being 386) So the comparision should be between a debian compiled package, and a home brewed package.
I suspect that for 99% of apps, it will make no difference - particulary if libc is compilied for 686. (btw, how do you get that then?)
Please give an example where java could be open-source, but not free (after the first copy). If it was GPL'ed but was they charged for it, then people would just distribute it themselves for free.
Because in a complicated bit of code, it can be difficult to write bug free code.
I work with lasers, and do complicate mathematics. So I have a function that does say:
doMaths(); assertMaths();
where doMaths() does the calculation, then assertMaths() double checks the calculations (probably by doing the maths in reverse - often very quick) then if the assert fails, throw an exception.
This is an example where it shouldn't fail, and might work 99.9% of the time, but if it does fail, I want to know and I want it to try to recover.
Say you have a button on a form that performs some function. you have something like:
doSomeFunc()
Now you know that doSomeFunc() should be correct, and shouldn't have any errors. But you might have missed something - perhaps a divide by zero, or something. So you do:
you're just plain confusing. what's the cpu thing got to do with it? how is the rest of it answering my question? and if the primary goal _is_ to 'give a shit', doesn't that contadict what you said before?
I second that cal3d. It is a spin off from worldforge, but we broke it off to a seperate project. The animation stuff is pretty good. Although work is still ongoing at the meta data level - for example when a person wears a jacket, you want to hide the torso. Getting that kind of logic in still needs to be done.
I want to just pick up on the word "wisely". I don't know if my interpretation is the same as anon. cowards is, but I see that in just muck about and learn everything. (as oppposed to watch tv.)
I don't see that to mean study on things you think will be necessarily important. At your age, you should be getting as wide a knowledge as you possibly can, tinkering with everything.
I'm 22, and have small contributions in everything from the linux kernel, to kde, to openoffice, kdevelop, worldforge and a few others that I forget.
My problem is that I get distracted too easily. I'm hoping that changes with age. (Any old people want to comment on that?)
sure, and perl, linux kernel, apache, postgres?, kstars, kdevelop, quanta,.. well pretty much all kde apps actually.
Some apps are started my companies, sometimes a company helps later on, sometimes a company doesn't help at all.
I think it's great for companies to help - have people be paid to do free software.
But I think with a lot of apps, it isn't strictly needed. It just might take longer in some cases.
(There are some areas that will be very difficult for linux to penetrate. Anywhere where a large amount of research is needed, and lots of patents covering the way. E.g. 3D video drivers.)
It's more like if you're a business, and someone else pays you so that if anyone asks what AXA is, then you instead tell them about the other business.
It is scummy. Why should you be able to advertise under someone else's name? When people search for your competitors products, they don't want to see your ads. Perhaps you should 1) work on improving your own image, so people would actually search for you, or 2) shut the hell up.
Few things are worse than a company that acts immorally then excuses it as "that's business"
W00T! We know their password - let's hack them.
P.S: Egyptian ppl are known to be very hospitable, its in their culture
Egyptians are, but when you get out of cairo, you get the sellers always swamping tourists. I think it really negatively effects tourists comming again.
you can netboot from a floppy.
One explanation that I saw that I liked was that GPL was free for the code, and BSD was free for the users.
So GPL ensures that the code is always free, but BSD ensures that the user is always free.
Thanks.
I was replying to someone saying that debian should recompile everything for i686, and be quite rude about it, without any evidence that it would actually make a difference.
9% is a good improvement. But also remember that I believe they are compilied for 686, but with support for 386.
( I get the march and mcpu mixed up - but one being 686 and one being 386)
So the comparision should be between a debian compiled package, and a home brewed package.
I suspect that for 99% of apps, it will make no difference - particulary if libc is compilied for 686. (btw, how do you get that then?)
hmm nope I don't follow.
Please give an example where java could be open-source, but not free (after the first copy).
If it was GPL'ed but was they charged for it, then people would just distribute it themselves for free.
Yes, because look at how many perl and python forks there are..
oh wait
Because in a complicated bit of code, it can be difficult to write bug free code.
I work with lasers, and do complicate mathematics. So I have a function that does say:
doMaths();
assertMaths();
where doMaths() does the calculation, then assertMaths() double checks the calculations (probably by doing the maths in reverse - often very quick) then if the assert fails, throw an exception.
This is an example where it shouldn't fail, and might work 99.9% of the time, but if it does fail, I want to know and I want it to try to recover.
Say you have a button on a form that performs some function. you have something like:
//handle
doSomeFunc()
Now you know that doSomeFunc() should be correct, and shouldn't have any errors. But you might have missed something - perhaps a divide by zero, or something.
So you do:
try {
doSomeFunc();
} catch (Exception e) {
}
where you try your best to handle the error gracefully (tell the user, disable the button, contact admin team, suggest a work around, etc)
that SCO is no longer saying the GPL in unconstitional _was_ mentioned in a previous SCO article. I'm too lazy to look it up though for you.
actually no, I don't trust anyone to patch linux, except linus and the people he trusts.
and you're taking a risk to download random rpm's off the net and install them.
Why do you think that the debian developers have such a strict key signing system?
yes, that is correct.
But doesn't answer my question does it?
you're just plain confusing.
what's the cpu thing got to do with it?
how is the rest of it answering my question?
and if the primary goal _is_ to 'give a shit', doesn't that contadict what you said before?
I second that cal3d. It is a spin off from worldforge, but we broke it off to a seperate project.
The animation stuff is pretty good. Although work is still ongoing at the meta data level - for example when a person wears a jacket, you want to hide the torso. Getting that kind of logic in still needs to be done.
I want to just pick up on the word "wisely".
I don't know if my interpretation is the same as anon. cowards is, but I see that in just muck about and learn everything. (as oppposed to watch tv.)
I don't see that to mean study on things you think will be necessarily important. At your age, you should be getting as wide a knowledge as you possibly can, tinkering with everything.
I'm 22, and have small contributions in everything from the linux kernel, to kde, to openoffice, kdevelop, worldforge and a few others that I forget.
My problem is that I get distracted too easily. I'm hoping that changes with age.
(Any old people want to comment on that?)
sure, and perl, linux kernel, apache, postgres?, kstars, kdevelop, quanta, .. well pretty much all kde apps actually.
Some apps are started my companies, sometimes a company helps later on, sometimes a company doesn't help at all.
I think it's great for companies to help - have people be paid to do free software.
But I think with a lot of apps, it isn't strictly needed. It just might take longer in some cases.
(There are some areas that will be very difficult for linux to penetrate. Anywhere where a large amount of research is needed, and lots of patents covering the way. E.g. 3D video drivers.)
true. but everyone here was blissfully unaware of such complaints. Now that it's open source, we hear the complaints.
Just like I hear far far more complaints about linux than I do of windows, since I have a selective input.
Do you have any links to show that there will be a noticable increase if compiled for 686 etc?
This is not informative.
Word 6.0 was the next version after 2.0. It says so in the article. It even explains why (A merge with a mac version that was on version 5)
>>It's no more "dirty" than a car commercial comparing themselves to the competition by name.
Speaking of which, I heard you have that over there in the US?
I think you are allowed to do that a lot more than here (UK).
I guess it's a difference in cultures.
Well how about google have to pull down an ad if someone complains, allowing the person who's ad was pulled down a chance to complain back.
Since companies are paying for the ads, I think this level of service is not too much.
well then why do you need to resort to dirty methods then?
It's more like if you're a business, and someone else pays you so that if anyone asks what AXA is, then you instead tell them about the other business.
It is scummy. Why should you be able to advertise under someone else's name?
When people search for your competitors products, they don't want to see your ads.
Perhaps you should 1) work on improving your own image, so people would actually search for you, or 2) shut the hell up.
Few things are worse than a company that acts immorally then excuses it as "that's business"
No, if AXA wins, then it means you aren't allowed to advertise your business under AXA's name.
Big wow.
I hope they win.