Well you can now change your tune. Several people have already posted that they like DST. And I'm also one of them. Pleased to make your acquaintance.
You're right. Now I can state that in the last 50+ years, approximately 0.000000001 of the people I "know" say DST is a good thing. (That's assuming they're not just contrarians who're saying it as a matter of course.)
I never cease to be amazed how many people think vacuum exerts a massive amount of pressure; Hollywood has a *LOT* to answer for for all those ridiculous explosive decompression scenes.
In space the pressure is an outward force, in atmosphere it's an inward force.
Vacuum can create the exertion a LOT of pressure. Try the old experiment where you lay a ruler hanging halfway off of a table and cover the end on the table with a sheet of newspaper. Now bang on the end of the ruler that's off the table and see what happens. The ruler stays right where it is because the pressure of the air against the newspaper is actually very significant. Figure 15lbs per sq inch on a 20"x20" sheet of paper (400 sq inches) is 6000 lbs.
People who haven't seen this demonstration are always shocked when the ruler doesn't fly up and take the newspaper with it. You're much more likely to break the ruler off at the edge of the table. Try it if you don't believe me.
I worked with high vacuum quite a bit in my younger days and the forces involved can be immense. The forces involved with the hyperloop are really quite insane and the possibility of an accident is very, very high. The results could be catastrophic to say the least.
Problem is, a lot of you tech guys, especially programmers, think ALL ideas are genius, regardless of reality, engineering, or physics.
Well said.
Most programmers have little or no practical experience in hardware or physics, and so *any* cool-sounding idea seems possible to them. Those of us who do have a background in hardware and physics look at this stuff and laugh at the childish naivete of the people who are cheering it on.
I can hardly blame the programmers- most of them have seen amazing things happen in their lifetime (computers, cell phones, gene editing, the internet, etc etc) so it's understandable that they think that anything that can be thought up can be done...but again, their lack of real-world experience makes them prone to ignoring the practicalities of the actual engineering. To them everything is just a problem of managing the data by coding a clever function or two. In software you can do just about anything, there are almost no limits....but that's just not the case in the real world.
Like most things, it's bullshit until it works. Then it's genius.
Yes, the key words being "until it works", which in this case will never happen.
Sure, that claim has been made before (manned flight, space travel, etc etc). But none of those things combined insurmountable engineering roadblocks with financial impracticability. The hyperloop has both, and if you can't see that then I'm sorry for your lack of perspective.
If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong...but I don't think that's the problem here. Anyone who's looked closely at the issues with the hyperloop has to come to the sobering conclusion that it's a really cool idea in theory, but one that will never come to fruition.
A group of scientists placed five Microsoft employees in a cage, and in the middle, a ladder with bananas on top. Every time a Microsoft employee went up the ladder, the scientists soaked the rest of the Microsoft employees with cold water. After a while, every time a Microsoft employee would start up the ladder, the others would pull him down and beat him up. After a time, no Microsoft employee would dare try climbing the ladder, no matter how great the temptation. The scientists then decided to replace one of the Microsoft employees. The first thing this new Microsoft employee did was start to climb the ladder. Immediately, the others pulled him down and beat him up. After several beatings, the new Microsoft employee learned never to go up the ladder, even though there was no evident reason not to, aside from the beating. The second Microsoft employee was substituted and the same occurred. The first Microsoft employee participated in the beating of the second Microsoft employee. A third Microsoft employee was changed and the same was repeated. The fourth Microsoft employee was changed, resulting in the same, before the fifth was finally replaced as well. What was left was a group of five Microsoft employees that – without ever having received a cold shower – continued to beat up any Microsoft employee who attempted to climb the ladder.
If it was possible to ask the Microsoft employee why they beat up on all those who attempted to climb the ladder, their most likely answer would be “I don’t know. It’s just how things are done around here."
Literally every single person I know thinks the DST switching back and forth is stupid and pointless. Every. Single. One.
In fact, in the last 50+ years I can't recall ever meeting anyone anywhere who thought it was a good idea.
It's just a stupid custom with no practical purpose. It's no different than putting a stalk of celery on top of your washing machine during the spin cycle.
And he did a good job if it, too. Even if just one or two of the points he raises are valid, the whole thing becomes an insurmountable engineering nightmare.
The hyperloop is more pie-in-the-sky bullshit from Elon Musk. Don't get me wrong- he has some very workable ideas, but the hyperloop ain't one of 'em.
Obama served four years in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois. Before that, he was a state senator in Illinois for eight years. He was also a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School during that time.
Obama had experience in government. Only in Republican politics does a complete and total lack of experience count as a positive quality.
But let me guess, when you're sick you go see an architect or an electrician, right? You'd never stoop to going to someone with experience like a doctor, would you?
Because he's an incompetent, narcissistic clown who clearly has idea NO how the government works?
Because he's an insecure, delusional jackass who's filled his cabinet with crooked, deceptive people who have no real-world experience in the posts they've been awarded?
Or maybe, just maybe, because he just willing to say whatever it took to whip his gullible followers into a frenzy and he never had the slightest intention of doing most if not all of the things he claimed he would do?
He's busy claiming credit for stuff he hasn't done, why should he make good on any of his promises? I mean, that shit takes work.
After all, this is the guy who said, "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated". Nobody knew? Really?
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Germany and more importantly Switzerland has working prototypes since over 30 years.
If they've had working prototypes for that long then why isn't in operation anywhere? Because it's impractical bullshit, that's why.
Frankly, something that's been in the prototype stage for 30 years is more properly termed a "laboratory oddity".
Doubting the viability is one thing, but what people have been saying here is outright rejection.
Probably because it's just plain bullshit and some people aren't afraid to say so.
Just like with hyperloop, which will have way less stuff to fail, and the failure modes are way more forgiving. Like, being stuck for a while.
The difference between airplanes and the hyperloop is that airplanes can be built.
Those of us who do have a background in hardware and physics look at this stuff ...
You certainly have no such background.
Au contraire, little one. I've probably forgotten more than you'll ever learn.
The make of that video, Shane Killian, is way out of his depth. Way, way, waaaaaaaay out.
If I had time I'd do a video debunking his debunking and show what a dopester he is.
"Hyperloop One has released the first photographs of its "proof of concept" test track "
Wow, now they have photos, it MUST be real! Who could doubt the viability of this thing now??
Well you can now change your tune. Several people have already posted that they like DST. And I'm also one of them. Pleased to make your acquaintance.
You're right. Now I can state that in the last 50+ years, approximately 0.000000001 of the people I "know" say DST is a good thing. (That's assuming they're not just contrarians who're saying it as a matter of course.)
But still, 0.000000001 is more than zero...
That was the point, yes.
No, the point is that airplane accidents involve forces that normally preclude survival. JUst like with a hyperloop track.
Survive a plane crash or two and get back to me, then I might take you seriously.
Anyone...except the guys building it.
They haven't managed to do jack shit yet, even with their toy track, and they never will.
I never cease to be amazed how many people think vacuum exerts a massive amount of pressure; Hollywood has a *LOT* to answer for for all those ridiculous explosive decompression scenes.
In space the pressure is an outward force, in atmosphere it's an inward force.
Vacuum can create the exertion a LOT of pressure. Try the old experiment where you lay a ruler hanging halfway off of a table and cover the end on the table with a sheet of newspaper. Now bang on the end of the ruler that's off the table and see what happens. The ruler stays right where it is because the pressure of the air against the newspaper is actually very significant. Figure 15lbs per sq inch on a 20"x20" sheet of paper (400 sq inches) is 6000 lbs.
People who haven't seen this demonstration are always shocked when the ruler doesn't fly up and take the newspaper with it. You're much more likely to break the ruler off at the edge of the table. Try it if you don't believe me.
Or if you're lazy, watch a demonstration here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I worked with high vacuum quite a bit in my younger days and the forces involved can be immense. The forces involved with the hyperloop are really quite insane and the possibility of an accident is very, very high. The results could be catastrophic to say the least.
How do you get out of an airplane when something goes wrong ?
A lot of the time you don't. How many airplane crashes have you been in, and how many have you survived?
Problem is, a lot of you tech guys, especially programmers, think ALL ideas are genius, regardless of reality, engineering, or physics.
Well said.
Most programmers have little or no practical experience in hardware or physics, and so *any* cool-sounding idea seems possible to them. Those of us who do have a background in hardware and physics look at this stuff and laugh at the childish naivete of the people who are cheering it on.
I can hardly blame the programmers- most of them have seen amazing things happen in their lifetime (computers, cell phones, gene editing, the internet, etc etc) so it's understandable that they think that anything that can be thought up can be done...but again, their lack of real-world experience makes them prone to ignoring the practicalities of the actual engineering. To them everything is just a problem of managing the data by coding a clever function or two. In software you can do just about anything, there are almost no limits....but that's just not the case in the real world.
Like most things, it's bullshit until it works. Then it's genius.
Yes, the key words being "until it works", which in this case will never happen.
Sure, that claim has been made before (manned flight, space travel, etc etc). But none of those things combined insurmountable engineering roadblocks with financial impracticability. The hyperloop has both, and if you can't see that then I'm sorry for your lack of perspective.
If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong...but I don't think that's the problem here. Anyone who's looked closely at the issues with the hyperloop has to come to the sobering conclusion that it's a really cool idea in theory, but one that will never come to fruition.
A group of scientists placed five Microsoft employees in a cage, and in the middle, a ladder with bananas on top. Every time a Microsoft employee went up the ladder, the scientists soaked the rest of the Microsoft employees with cold water. After a while, every time a Microsoft employee would start up the ladder, the others would pull him down and beat him up. After a time, no Microsoft employee would dare try climbing the ladder, no matter how great the temptation. The scientists then decided to replace one of the Microsoft employees. The first thing this new Microsoft employee did was start to climb the ladder. Immediately, the others pulled him down and beat him up. After several beatings, the new Microsoft employee learned never to go up the ladder, even though there was no evident reason not to, aside from the beating. The second Microsoft employee was substituted and the same occurred. The first Microsoft employee participated in the beating of the second Microsoft employee. A third Microsoft employee was changed and the same was repeated. The fourth Microsoft employee was changed, resulting in the same, before the fifth was finally replaced as well. What was left was a group of five Microsoft employees that – without ever having received a cold shower – continued to beat up any Microsoft employee who attempted to climb the ladder.
If it was possible to ask the Microsoft employee why they beat up on all those who attempted to climb the ladder, their most likely answer would be “I don’t know. It’s just how things are done around here."
Literally every single person I know thinks the DST switching back and forth is stupid and pointless. Every. Single. One.
In fact, in the last 50+ years I can't recall ever meeting anyone anywhere who thought it was a good idea.
It's just a stupid custom with no practical purpose. It's no different than putting a stalk of celery on top of your washing machine during the spin cycle.
Thunderf00t does debunk video of hyperloop
And he did a good job if it, too. Even if just one or two of the points he raises are valid, the whole thing becomes an insurmountable engineering nightmare.
The hyperloop is more pie-in-the-sky bullshit from Elon Musk. Don't get me wrong- he has some very workable ideas, but the hyperloop ain't one of 'em.
Looking at photos of the test track, you have to wonder how the hell do you get out if something goes wrong?
You cut the bodies out with the Jaws of Life and vacuum up the remains with a ShopVac.
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What happens if there is a sudden "repressurization"?
You cut the bodies out with the Jaws of Life and vacuum up the remains with a ShopVac.
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What if the motive element fails and the pod comes to a halt? There you are, stuck in a sealed tube.
You cut the bodies out with the Jaws of Life and cart them away on gurneys.
The thing is, that is not true. The rich pay more if general health is bad due to lower productivity.
You're decoupling generalities from practicalities, from the day-to-day reality of the world.
What you said may be true in theory, but the rich don't care- they'll be able to afford what they want no matter what it costs, including healthcare.
Why are you describing Obama? (Score:-1, Troll)
I think that says it all.
Obama served four years in the U.S. Senate representing Illinois. Before that, he was a state senator in Illinois for eight years. He was also a senior lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School during that time.
Obama had experience in government. Only in Republican politics does a complete and total lack of experience count as a positive quality.
But let me guess, when you're sick you go see an architect or an electrician, right? You'd never stoop to going to someone with experience like a doctor, would you?
Everyone is 50+ with extremely outdated skillsets.
Having experience is a bad thing? Since when?
Also, understanding how things work is a skillset that will never go out of style. These guys knows things that you'll never, ever comprehend.
Now go back to guzzling Red Bull and coding your newest Tinder clone, dumbfuck.
What makes you think that he *won't*?
Because he's an incompetent, narcissistic clown who clearly has idea NO how the government works?
Because he's an insecure, delusional jackass who's filled his cabinet with crooked, deceptive people who have no real-world experience in the posts they've been awarded?
Or maybe, just maybe, because he just willing to say whatever it took to whip his gullible followers into a frenzy and he never had the slightest intention of doing most if not all of the things he claimed he would do?
He's busy claiming credit for stuff he hasn't done, why should he make good on any of his promises? I mean, that shit takes work.
After all, this is the guy who said, "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated". Nobody knew? Really?
I know that we mere mortals can't edit our posts (O The Horror) but for fuck's sake, can't the editors even correct a typo?
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the word "editor" is based on the word "edit". That implies the ability to ummm, edit.
Is the ability to alter a post outside the lofty control of the Powers That Be?
As described by a coworker: "Snap is the Uber of Twitter."
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Here are just a few of the ones I block (plus a few that aren't listed):
moncler
I guess it was too much trouble to list the fucking domain in the summary, eh?