Yeah, I'm an engineer (not IT/SW, though I did work in that when the job required it). I've worked with people making $5k/day...and they were most definitely worth it.
I think I read once where it takes about 20,000 hours to become an expert in a field. Some disciplines of engineering encompass more than one area of expertise. I remember one problem that was solved in two days by one of these 5k/day consultants that a dozen people hadn't solved in two months because they'd run across a similar problem a decades earlier while working on something completely unrelated.
Do you think someone past their 50's isn't a liability and risk? Everyone a company hires is a liability risk.
I can tell you from my personal experience that the amount of effort that I could put forward as a forty year old is much less than at twenty year old. OTOH, I can do much more even better than I could at twenty with less work. This is not because I am twenty years older, but because I spent twenty years getting better. Some people do that, many people don't and coast along
serious money to be made cleaning up after the kids.
YES!!! There's also serious money to be made in the support of 40 year old technology running on critical systems whose documentation was lost years ago.`
in fact I work with a lot of people past retirement age who are usually offered a lot of money to keep working. In some (maybe not so cutting edge where real money is made and results matter) industries, experience is valuable.
This is off the point of some people are going to have to have a big cut in social security if the are replacing their $2000/month SS check with a $1000 basic income. My parents are retired and thinking of getting a loan based on their combined retirements of $40,000/year. What if they buy a house based on that and next year ubi is implemented and their income drops to $20,000/year?
What's the alternative, laws created in a vacuum. Or worse, based on a Hollywood movie? You're never going to get he people you want, the best you can hope for is someone who will pick the person you want for advice.
Yes, but everyone gets the same amount. Simplifying the system (of basic income) is what is supposed to lead to the savings that will make it pay for itself.
Even my college wasn't nearly up to date on the technology that I encountered while working. And while I've never worked for the government I have bounced between almost a dozen companies in my career. I doubt that I would treat the government any different if I needed a job and they were hiring.
Fine. Lets wait until the world has a large enough economy to really worry about it and not at a time where it's unfeasible and will wreck the economy and civilization to the point where we never make it there.
Honestly, I need a ditch dug on my property. Trench really. Sure, I'll rent a ditch witch (a trencher), but those are hard work so I'll end up paying some guys to do it for me instead, probably the same ones who dug my last ditch. So yes, the world does need ditch diggers.
But.01% of the population is not that many people. If you worried about yourself and had an education and valuable skill as you did rich people, you'd be much better off.
Less than a decade ago,/. went into meltdown because a Swedish car company proposed that future cars would have welded hoods (bonnets) and not be user serviceable. I guess car companies do look into the future. Just have to wait for older generations to die off. Kinda obviates the need for a 3d printer though.
Is that like how my neighbor's parents from NYC complained endlessly about the racism of Arizona when they passed their immigration law that made half the state move out (I don't remember what it was) but then disowned he when she married a guy from Mexico?
(GenX) I grew up living in a trailer eating government cheese, then in a cheap house. Thee are currently many houses in that neighborhood that are affordable on minimum wage, but they're old small houses. Millenials don't want them, they're only good enough for immigrants (who earn less than millenials). The people who move into them do a very nice job of fixing them up and improving the neighborhood. Maybe someday it will be to expensive to live in and be yet another reason why the universe is out to get them.
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I think I read once where it takes about 20,000 hours to become an expert in a field. Some disciplines of engineering encompass more than one area of expertise. I remember one problem that was solved in two days by one of these 5k/day consultants that a dozen people hadn't solved in two months because they'd run across a similar problem a decades earlier while working on something completely unrelated.
I can tell you from my personal experience that the amount of effort that I could put forward as a forty year old is much less than at twenty year old. OTOH, I can do much more even better than I could at twenty with less work. This is not because I am twenty years older, but because I spent twenty years getting better. Some people do that, many people don't and coast along
a good guy in C can get any job done,
Domain knowledge is sometimes more important than coding ability. Some industries, domain knowledge can take years, even decades, to acquire.
serious money to be made cleaning up after the kids.
YES!!! There's also serious money to be made in the support of 40 year old technology running on critical systems whose documentation was lost years ago.`
in fact I work with a lot of people past retirement age who are usually offered a lot of money to keep working. In some (maybe not so cutting edge where real money is made and results matter) industries, experience is valuable.
The natural tax rate is 0%.
Sure, but is keeping experienced people out the solution? The ACLU has written on this that I don't feel like searching for.
This is off the point of some people are going to have to have a big cut in social security if the are replacing their $2000/month SS check with a $1000 basic income. My parents are retired and thinking of getting a loan based on their combined retirements of $40,000/year. What if they buy a house based on that and next year ubi is implemented and their income drops to $20,000/year?
How can poor uneducated immigrants succeed, but not highly educated millenials?
What's the alternative, laws created in a vacuum. Or worse, based on a Hollywood movie? You're never going to get he people you want, the best you can hope for is someone who will pick the person you want for advice.
Yes, but everyone gets the same amount. Simplifying the system (of basic income) is what is supposed to lead to the savings that will make it pay for itself.
We should worry about that problem when it gets here. I think it will be decades, but them I'm a robotics engineer.
Thomas Jefferson said the same thing according to a history book I read.
Even my college wasn't nearly up to date on the technology that I encountered while working. And while I've never worked for the government I have bounced between almost a dozen companies in my career. I doubt that I would treat the government any different if I needed a job and they were hiring.
Some people don't like going to the zoo either.
At some point we are really going
Fine. Lets wait until the world has a large enough economy to really worry about it and not at a time where it's unfeasible and will wreck the economy and civilization to the point where we never make it there.
world doesn't need ditch diggers too.
Honestly, I need a ditch dug on my property. Trench really. Sure, I'll rent a ditch witch (a trencher), but those are hard work so I'll end up paying some guys to do it for me instead, probably the same ones who dug my last ditch. So yes, the world does need ditch diggers.
But .01% of the population is not that many people. If you worried about yourself and had an education and valuable skill as you did rich people, you'd be much better off.
Social security pays $2000/month. You'll have to pay this much if you intend to get rid of it.
never open the hood
Less than a decade ago, /. went into meltdown because a Swedish car company proposed that future cars would have welded hoods (bonnets) and not be user serviceable. I guess car companies do look into the future. Just have to wait for older generations to die off. Kinda obviates the need for a 3d printer though.
Abraham Lincoln pops into my mind. Maybe not the best response, but it was my first.
Double whammy
Is that like how my neighbor's parents from NYC complained endlessly about the racism of Arizona when they passed their immigration law that made half the state move out (I don't remember what it was) but then disowned he when she married a guy from Mexico?
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(GenX) I grew up living in a trailer eating government cheese, then in a cheap house. Thee are currently many houses in that neighborhood that are affordable on minimum wage, but they're old small houses. Millenials don't want them, they're only good enough for immigrants (who earn less than millenials). The people who move into them do a very nice job of fixing them up and improving the neighborhood. Maybe someday it will be to expensive to live in and be yet another reason why the universe is out to get them.