Earth: In the very immediate future, there will be no jobs left for humans. We need a basic income for people to live. There is literally nothing a robot/computer can't do, and do better.
I'm by no means a space nutter. But I am a real life space engineer (aka rocket scientist). With a degree in nuclear physics. The problem has been solved here on earth. 6m of lead will stop an awful lot.
Where are you gong to get that much lead?
Send it from Earth.
But won't that take a big rocket. Or at least a lot of smaller rockets?
That's an engineering problem and solvable. The larger problem is that there will be nothing to do if people go. You sit around in a bubble, drive around in a small bubble for short distances. Ever live in a small town with 200 residence? It would be like this, but much worse. They are nice to visit, but you go stir cray after a few days. Weeks if you are lucky. The only new things you'd ever see is whatever Earth decided to send.
it's because we all understand that it's just meant to try to flood the job market with cheap labor.
I wouldn't even care about this if that were the real problem. There are few things worse than being stuck working with someone dispassionate about their work and is there for the money. Similarly, it's exciting to work with very bight and driven people who challenge you at every step of the way, not hold you back.
The vast majority of even calculus isn't really required to be even an engineer. The one and only time I ever used calculus to solve a problem, management tried to patent it until I brought in my high school calc book and showed it to them.
This exactly. I do a lot of software work on satellites and space related activities and the highest math I've needed was high school. What's more important is understanding how the pieces work together, eg how operating systems, scheduling and interrupts work along with he various other programs that may be running.
One day, sometime during my junior year of a physics degree, I had the realization that I knew greek. Or at least enough read it and fake my way through it by looking for roots of words.
It's that way with most engineering. Eg, i electrical engineering you learn how to analyze circuits and calculate i and v at every node, but in real life, the experienced engineer will look at a circuit and say something like stick a 22pF cap there and all of a sudden, the circuit works.
Optimal? Probably not, but does it matter? Not if it woks and meets requirements. As a example, watch Dave Jones design and debug a circuit.
Yes, the FMS does things like navigate, handle emergencies, flight planning, airports, runways, monitor fuel consumption and energy, tells the AP where to go.
Same thing happens with kids who have money. Three friends from high school worked in the same job for years and had been promoted to high enough paying management positions while still in college that they decided that getting a degree wasn't worth it. I thought it was kind of sad because they were in no way what I would consider great job. Also same thing happened with a lot of interns I worked with. $45,000 a year is a lot of money when most of your peers are making 1/4 of that.
My upper division math classes (real analysis, topology, differential geometry, calculus of variations) regularly had about a dozen students. And a quarter of those where grad students.
Hahahaha. In my freshman year engineering programming class, there were fewer than fifty students out of a class of 300. The teacher was very good, but the majority of students were not prepared to put in the amount of effort required and he was replaced. Then most students passed, but eventually dropped out over the years. And then there was freshman physics class where 30% was an 'A' when graded on the curve.
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Mars: Robots don't work on Mars
Google will remember you. A lot of people around here seem to worry a lot about that too.
Thanks to google, everyone will be remembered by humanity forever.
Where are you gong to get that much lead?
Send it from Earth.
But won't that take a big rocket. Or at least a lot of smaller rockets?
Yes, that's the engineering part
The long term goal of spacex is to get a lot of people to move/be born on Mars, then charge them extravagant prices to get back to Earth.
That's an engineering problem and solvable. The larger problem is that there will be nothing to do if people go. You sit around in a bubble, drive around in a small bubble for short distances. Ever live in a small town with 200 residence? It would be like this, but much worse. They are nice to visit, but you go stir cray after a few days. Weeks if you are lucky. The only new things you'd ever see is whatever Earth decided to send.
I haven't forgotten how to program, not that I was ever any good, but this is exactly what I've done at most of my jobs.
Didn't slashdot used to love uber?
war reduces populations
I bet you can't even pick out he war years on a population chart. http://www.wolframalpha.com/in...
You'd have a hard time picking out diseases and those have had a greater impact
NO SUCH THING AS A HUMAN AVERAGE.
If you measured every human, added the results and divided by 7.13 billion there would be.
Also this fact was explicitly called out in ST V: The Undiscovered Country..."If you could only hear yourself. 'Human Rights.' "
http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/asian.htm
Asians are now counted as white.
it's because we all understand that it's just meant to try to flood the job market with cheap labor.
I wouldn't even care about this if that were the real problem. There are few things worse than being stuck working with someone dispassionate about their work and is there for the money. Similarly, it's exciting to work with very bight and driven people who challenge you at every step of the way, not hold you back.
"People people" rank high on the sociopath description.
The vast majority of even calculus isn't really required to be even an engineer. The one and only time I ever used calculus to solve a problem, management tried to patent it until I brought in my high school calc book and showed it to them.
Try labview. It as been a long time, but I think Lego Mindstorms is also like this. Also BigTrak, 1970's toy.
This exactly. I do a lot of software work on satellites and space related activities and the highest math I've needed was high school. What's more important is understanding how the pieces work together, eg how operating systems, scheduling and interrupts work along with he various other programs that may be running.
One day, sometime during my junior year of a physics degree, I had the realization that I knew greek. Or at least enough read it and fake my way through it by looking for roots of words.
Optimal? Probably not, but does it matter? Not if it woks and meets requirements. As a example, watch Dave Jones design and debug a circuit.
I read that in Jar-Jar's voice.
Yes, the FMS does things like navigate, handle emergencies, flight planning, airports, runways, monitor fuel consumption and energy, tells the AP where to go.
Same thing happens with kids who have money. Three friends from high school worked in the same job for years and had been promoted to high enough paying management positions while still in college that they decided that getting a degree wasn't worth it. I thought it was kind of sad because they were in no way what I would consider great job. Also same thing happened with a lot of interns I worked with. $45,000 a year is a lot of money when most of your peers are making 1/4 of that.
My upper division math classes (real analysis, topology, differential geometry, calculus of variations) regularly had about a dozen students. And a quarter of those where grad students.
Hahahaha. In my freshman year engineering programming class, there were fewer than fifty students out of a class of 300. The teacher was very good, but the majority of students were not prepared to put in the amount of effort required and he was replaced. Then most students passed, but eventually dropped out over the years. And then there was freshman physics class where 30% was an 'A' when graded on the curve.