Java was proprietary from the start, a project Sun started for use with a dedicated embedded controller. When it proved unsuccessful for that, Sun decided to try it for other stuff. It became an 'open standard' at some later point. It's never become an official standard because every standards body Sun has presented it to has wanted it to be a truly OPEN standard. This pisses Sun off, so they put their marbles back in the bag and sulk off home again.
I almost never see anybody engaging in 'splitting' behavior except GPL and BSDL advocates ripping at each other's throats. The 'divide and conquer' sadly seems to really be an internal struggle.
People like you fail to grasp the BSD philosophy. BSD code is often the reference design which the rest of the world is derived from. The BSD TCP/IP stack is used almost everywhere else except on Linux. It's actaully a good idea for something as protocol-driven as that to come out of a single code base. Research-oriented operating systems like NetBSD are used to plow the new ground, and are often the first OSes running on new architectures.
Apple should release the boot details for all the classic Macintoshes. It's really pitiful that one has to keep a runty little MacOS partiton on a 68K Mac that runs NetBSD, with a NetBSD bootloader as the only MacOS binary in it.
They're not making a cent of money off the old Macs, why the hell won't they set that source code, or at least the proper hooks into it, loose?
Where do I download the source? How's the port to StrongArm coming? Is the Sparc port next? And where's the FTP site for the i386 port again? I seem to have lost the url.
'Admins' are the janitors in the technical universe. Nothing at all makes up for a lack in understanding of the basics. God knows I wish I'd taken much more hard science and math when I was younger.
To give away that much money in little chunks, they'd have to hire hundreds and hundreds of those liberal arts pukes to 'administer' the funding and 'conduct studies' on which causes were worthy.
I can't think of anything that an ultra-Geek like Gordon Moore would hate more than that.
Take as much math and science as you can. There's really no need to rush into 'technical' classes. As you've observed, there are plenty of 'programming' classes offered. Learn your Calculus and your Physics. Getting a foundation in the basics will make, i.e. an EE curriculum, much easier when you make it to college.
Dashing too fast into 'implementation' stuff just turns you into a one-trick freak on whatever implementation you've focused on.
Can you elaborate in more detail on what you mean?
(I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious to see which website you'll cut and paste from to explain something you clearly have no clue about beyond quoting a bullet point or two)
A few years ago now at a Unix Users of Minnesota meeting (St. Paul campus once a month) the presenter used HTML and Netscape for his presentation. For most uses that 'visual aids' are put to, a local copy of Apache (or even just some static pages in a directory for some uses) would be a good choice. It's strange how few people use HTML that way.
So all the cracker has to do is spoof that he's the box at Apple that generates the shiney button to click. Then the MacOS users will happily click on the shiney button (which releases the hounds).
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Hell, even SparcStations have the kind of access available. Hold down the Stop and A keys to slam a running Sparc down to the bios. Unless it has security enabled, reboot it to single user mode. If it does have security enabled, you can probably still boot it from a NetBSD boot floppy or an Bootable ISO image burned to CD.
Any time there is physical access to a machine it's likely there's an easy way to break into it.
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No, the worst thing to happen is when the police ram down your door and confiscate all your computer equipment because someone else was running a child pornography website on your hardware.
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The fact is, though, that if the User account has the capability to enable the root account and other services, someone will come up with a way for them to be enabled covertly. It'll be some trojan or other. Once that's been accomplished it's not that difficult to 0wn the box.
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Java was proprietary from the start, a project Sun started for use with a dedicated embedded controller. When it proved unsuccessful for that, Sun decided to try it for other stuff. It became an 'open standard' at some later point. It's never become an official standard because every standards body Sun has presented it to has wanted it to be a truly OPEN standard. This pisses Sun off, so they put their marbles back in the bag and sulk off home again.
That's a peculiar way of seeing things.
I almost never see anybody engaging in 'splitting' behavior except GPL and BSDL advocates ripping at each other's throats. The 'divide and conquer' sadly seems to really be an internal struggle.
I don't think so.
It was something to the effect of:
"We sell this Basic interpreter.
How come only one copy is being purchased for each User Group? That isn't right."
Microsoft bought 'DOS' from a seperate firm who wrote it. It was a cheap knockoff of CP/M. Sort of like Linux is a clone of Unix.
Don't you mean the speech will say '(GPL == bad ) is true' ??
The == operator, in the form you used it, is usually a test operator, not an assignment operator.
Many, many people in forums like this, and on Usenet, make that mistake. It makes one wonder how much they know about C.
Why won't Apple publish the source code for the ROMs?
People like you fail to grasp the BSD philosophy. BSD code is often the reference design which the rest of the world is derived from. The BSD TCP/IP stack is used almost everywhere else except on Linux. It's actaully a good idea for something as protocol-driven as that to come out of a single code base. Research-oriented operating systems like NetBSD are used to plow the new ground, and are often the first OSes running on new architectures.
It isn't about Mine, Mine, Mine! at all.
Apple should release the boot details for all the classic Macintoshes. It's really pitiful that one has to keep a runty little MacOS partiton on a 68K Mac that runs NetBSD, with a NetBSD bootloader as the only MacOS binary in it.
They're not making a cent of money off the old Macs, why the hell won't they set that source code, or at least the proper hooks into it, loose?
For those of us who want to use our computers, the software has to run on them.
Run along now, and buy more closed Apple hardware. We know how important your time is.
Cool! I want to run OS X, too.
Where do I download the source? How's the port to StrongArm coming? Is the Sparc port next? And where's the FTP site for the i386 port again? I seem to have lost the url.
Linux isn't bent on Total World Domination.
Linus just forgot to wrap those words in humor tags the first time he uttered them, and the concept sort of spun out of anybody's control.
Brings to mind the joke:
What do you call a self-cleaning cat litter box?
Fido.
I guess I wasn't aware there was only one processor architecture out there.
'Admins' are the janitors in the technical universe. Nothing at all makes up for a lack in understanding of the basics. God knows I wish I'd taken much more hard science and math when I was younger.
Intel held a gun up to Motorola's head and told them "you're not allowed to put out anything innovative" and Motorola just complied?
You're one of the guys who thinks "the oil company" killed the guy who invented the 100 mile per gallon carburator, eh?
Because he's a really smart person. Lots of rich people are, there's this weird law of human nature that makes it end up that way.
To give away that much money in little chunks, they'd have to hire hundreds and hundreds of those liberal arts pukes to 'administer' the funding and 'conduct studies' on which causes were worthy.
I can't think of anything that an ultra-Geek like Gordon Moore would hate more than that.
Take as much math and science as you can. There's really no need to rush into 'technical' classes. As you've observed, there are plenty of 'programming' classes offered. Learn your Calculus and your Physics. Getting a foundation in the basics will make, i.e. an EE curriculum, much easier when you make it to college.
Dashing too fast into 'implementation' stuff just turns you into a one-trick freak on whatever implementation you've focused on.
Can you elaborate in more detail on what you mean?
(I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just curious to see which website you'll cut and paste from to explain something you clearly have no clue about beyond quoting a bullet point or two)
A few years ago now at a Unix Users of Minnesota meeting (St. Paul campus once a month) the presenter used HTML and Netscape for his presentation. For most uses that 'visual aids' are put to, a local copy of Apache (or even just some static pages in a directory for some uses) would be a good choice. It's strange how few people use HTML that way.
Is there a downloadable ISO of the 'bootable rescue CD'? I'd love to get ahold of a copy.
IBM is still strong on Linux, and other companies as well. Wolfram Research has used Linux as their primary development platform for years.
It hasn't been look good for most Linux-only companies, but Linux is still a good deal for companies where it isn't their primary focus.
So all the cracker has to do is spoof that he's the box at Apple that generates the shiney button to click. Then the MacOS users will happily click on the shiney button (which releases the hounds).
Hell, even SparcStations have the kind of access available. Hold down the Stop and A keys to slam a running Sparc down to the bios. Unless it has security enabled, reboot it to single user mode. If it does have security enabled, you can probably still boot it from a NetBSD boot floppy or an Bootable ISO image burned to CD.
Any time there is physical access to a machine it's likely there's an easy way to break into it.
No, the worst thing to happen is when the police ram down your door and confiscate all your computer equipment because someone else was running a child pornography website on your hardware.
The fact is, though, that if the User account has the capability to enable the root account and other services, someone will come up with a way for them to be enabled covertly. It'll be some trojan or other. Once that's been accomplished it's not that difficult to 0wn the box.