2 different issues actually. I like my job, I just do not like the tools that I am reqired to use right now, i.e., I do not have a "windows" job I am a Logistician. As stated, I am planning to change that.
An issue related to your statement, is that using and running Linux at home does not carry much weight in job world. Several places have called me for Linux jobs, because it is on resume, but insist on candidates having used it at their "regular job".
I am stuck with a MSWin machine at work because everything that I do must comply with the above 3 programs.
I do not run them at home, no longer do any work related to the above stuff at home and am currently devising a plot to recreate all of my output on a FreeBSD (or Linux, if Oracle for Linux will not run on FBSD) and Oracle 8i machine.
Perhaps at that time I can actually complete a database app without running out of memory every hour.
1. The "unwashed masses" do not know that.US exists because it has not been advertised. For some strange reason, beurocrats think they can issue a memo and then the whole world complies. Sorry Bubba, it don't work that way outside of DC (hell, it don't work that way IN DC either, but try convincing a fed of that).
2. Feds do not realize that to make something "unknown" popular amoungst buyers, you use a LOW price, not a HIGH price. They seem to think that massive taxes generate more revenue too. Go figure.
3. For some reason, the feds think that picking ip a.US domain is the same budget choice for joe sixpack as it is to joe IRS for picking up.gov, or for joe M1A1 to pickup a.mil address. They have no concept of what real "out of pocket" money is.
4. Redundant, but needs to be repeated,.US can NOT become *popular* if it is not widely known. (not meant to be a riddle, sorry)
Conclusion: the government needs to do the same thing that they did with cigarettes in WW I to make.US widespread and famous. Give them away to a broad base of employees (like soldiers) so that they can market it by word of mouth.
Could such changes to cameras like these
make them more secure?
Just from the standpoint of reducing sucessful sniffing between the camera itself and the network this would be a great security improvement.
Both for us ultra-paranoid sorts, as well as for voyure sites that want flexibility of camera placement, but also wish to choke any point of revenue seepage.
About 20 years ago, when I began college, through just a few years ago (when I finally went back and finished college) the University and the professors used radically different methods:
1. They would have "new editions" of textbooks quite frequently. The main difference seemed to be the wording or order of questions assigned for homework. Calc books were the most amazing. Did not know Business student calculus was so dynamic as to require a new adition of the same book every year or 2.
2. "Class packs" were common a few years back, until some lawsuit against Kinko's stalled wholsale copyright violations by professors. Somehow, a way was found around that and class packs were available again, for a pretty hefty price, given the "quality" of a pile of xeroxed paper. BTW, even though the pile of bad quality printed paper was a collection of other's work, don't dare make a copy for a friend or the prof. would have a fit.
It seems that this latest twist has the same effect as the tactics used before, except the professors/textbook writers do not have to move the questions around every couple of terms.
However, in the past there were not any criminal hammers hovering over the students for these violations.
Salty? Impurities? Magnitism? Dang near any impurity in water lets it conduct electricity! Since it would be close to impossible for any body to have pure, non-conductive water, what is the big suprise?
1. Bugs can be found and fixed by a large base of people, however, the company does need to make a serious effort to find the bugs first.
This will result in a large number of knowledgable people that will be referring your product to others as something good/safe to use. You should still be able to sell plenty of product, if you want to, because most folks that a re "just users" prefer a package and some sort of company backing, as well as easier install, etc.
2. Gratuituotous (hell, I can't spell stuff like that) reason: Open Source is a hot buzzword now, but show them that even if the source is open, joe-schmoe user is not interested in compiling for his own machine, so that takes you back to #1 above, you will still sell plenty of product even if it is OS.
Conclusion should be something to the effect of getting lots of community support and assistance that you would not normally have, as well as being able to sell plenty of product.
Give examples of hardware/software that is commercially packaged even though it is available free: Cobolt machines, Linud distros, *BSD, etc.
Sorry if it was not more in depth, I recently picked up a similar dilemma at work and this is all I have come up with sofar.
I really hate getting this deep into an OT discussion, BUT...
The things you bring up are nice, cute and whatnot. However, the University of Tennessee began in 1794. When was that college in Austin formed? If it was before UT then it would be UMexico, wouldn't it?
Why must UM insist on using orange and white? Those are the UT Knoxville colors, that were around ages before Texas was emancipated from Mexico, with the strong assistance from some prominant Tennesseans.
There is no denying that the University of Mexico, Austin has had some stellar academic achievements, but the initials UT were in use about a century before your 2nd largest state in the union was even thought of.
I am the first to agree that those with oft heard voices (the press and those with access to mass media) are often overly self important, a trait that I do not like in the least.
However, as self-important as the press may be, the government has no right to treat them this way. Telling people about *something*, anything (in this case, DeCSS) should not result in legal bills and censorship of ANYBODY.
The government already thinks that they can take away our self-defense, free travel and free thought. Free press does not need to go down freedoms have. This Klintonista judge deserves a good fight.
From the log on the website:
"That fantastically efficient propulsion system uses only about 100 grams of xenon propellant each day (or about one pound every 4 days)."
Also:
"Today, the ion propulsion system has logged 195 days of operation."
So, 195 days *.25 pounds == 48.75 pounds consumed thusfar.
But, they also have this:
"To reach the correct point in space and time to greet the comet as it streaks around the Sun, DS1 will need to thrust with its advanced ion propulsion system for about 8 months. It has now completed over a month of that thrusting, since resuming powered flight at the end of June."
So, we might assume that it has actually been thrusting for 195 days with the most recent consecutive days being the last 30 days.
8 months == ~ 240 days total
So, 240 *.25 Lbs. == 60 Lbs. of gas (with 48.75 pounds consumed thusfar).
How tightly that gas is packed per gallon is someone else's guess.
How we went from transparent skin to the Alamo is beyond me...
This is Slashdot. You expected something different?
let me be the first
Texan to publically thank the courageous Tennessee citizens (who i'm sure are all dead by
now) for the work they did to make create Texas. We couldn't have done it without you.
Thank you very much, from a graduate of the real UT, Knoxville.
If your card catalogue is just sitting there on paper now, then ANY open source database system will work (yes, even mySQL).
Just set it up and start typing in the info. Take your pick of anything out there.
A pre-packaged product will not save you an appreciable amount of time in the long run if you have 5,000 volumes that need to be typed into the thing anyway.
..but what about technology and democracy? can one be used to promote the other?
Yes, they certainly *could* be, but don't hold your breath.
First, we in the USA live in a republic. In a system like that, giving government any control over public communications is dangerous to say the least. Remember the bad-old-days of TV (sometimes called the "Golden Age")? Whenever the sitting president wanted to babble over the air every station had to cary it? Remember the breath of fresh air we got when that ended during the Bush (or was it Regan?) administration?
Well, thanks but no thanks. I will stick with a system where people become interested in technology (or not) on whatever level they like, without "guidance" from the government. Same with politics.
From the other direction, tech promoting democracy? Take a look around. There are endless discussions on any topic imaginable going on through: the 'net, the web, HAM radio, commercial talk radio via call-in, CB radio, student unions, town meetings, bars, etc.
Eventually, ALL of that discussion ends up in a voting booth, one way or another. No, I do not mean that everybody that discussed anything votes, but everybody that votes has had some exposure to the issues that THEY are interested in. Granted, it might not be what YOU or I are interested in, *gosh* might even be a view that we do not agree with!
So, just what the hell is *wrong* with people having the freedom to choose? Are you just not satisfied that it is not ending up the way you want it to end up?
It is much easier to be involved in the US political process now than it has been in my almost 40 years of life.
The reason fewer people involved is because they DO NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED!
Why this is such a burr under the saddle of those that are involved is beyond me. Sounds suspiciously like self centered arrogance on the part of the political hobbyests and pro's alike.
Just because *I* enjoy or view as important a particular activity does not make others lesser people because they are interested in different things.
When you get down to it, once you get past your local elected officials, the DC based wonks do not have much of a day-to-day impact on the average person. Looks like most people have realized that, since they now have a chice to watch something else *besides* a convention (in contrast to the 1960's) during this season. They are not forced to watch the president on every channel whenever he has the whim to call a press confrence, etc.
So, political hackers, just chill (including me), because other people have other things to do that THEY feel is more important. Anything less would be Stalinist, or at least Chilaian(sp?).
From the Netpliance I-Opener hacking board: Great GPS implementation has both Win and Linux stuff in it.
This may be more to the point: GPS for Linux on the same board. Mentions Mayko, which is what I will be trying on my vehicle-mounted I-Opener, but on FreeBSD.
Not exactly trip planning software, but covers the navigation portion of your question.
Like I said in my other posts, what they CLAIM is irrelevant. Not sure why you are attaching that to my post. They can call themselves five legged dogs if they want and it does not make them a five legged dogs.
The people you seem to have in mind can call themselves conservatives all they want and YOU might buy that, but I don't consider them to be conservative in any sense of the word and believe that I brought that up in the several threads above.
I am glad that you brought up the more fitting term "strict constitutionalist", since it is obvious that the term "conservative" has been bastardized enough at to have fooled even someone such as yourself.
Everybody that IS a true conservative is a strict constitutionalist. What they label themself is irrelevant.
It kind of reminds me of some of the folks I was around during military service. Touting the label of "conservative" while, in various discussions, they wanted one government mandate and edict after another, like: forced use of english in all commerce; free airtime on all electronic media for "the administration side of the issue"; free military equipment from corporations; etc., etc. The list was endless.
Now, again I say, people that have these views can call themselves conservatives all they want, but they are really liberals, socialistic liberals in the same spirit as Stalin, Hitler and Kaplan. Judge Kaplan being a Clinton appointee.
If you actually BELIEVE that anybody that calls themself a conservative truly is, no matter what their actions or views, then I suggest that you have the perception problem, not I.
I hope you don't believe any screwball with a sword has supreme executive power just because he says some watery tart in a lake threw it at him!
Credits: 5 legged dog ref. Abraham Lincolin in one of his debates with Douglas; Watery Tart ref. Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Both reengineered for this forum.
First, DeCSS has nothing at all to do with what you state. If it did then the pirates would be using it instead of commercial burners. If it were an individual user issue, the blank media would have to be less expensive than the origonal. It is not. Besides, DeCSS is just a decyphering program. It is not a way to copy anything.
However, the topic has nothing to do with "killing" DeCSS.
The ONLY thing the court did was try to muzzle a news outlet. End of list.
Please, show us where DeCSS has been killed? Has it stopped existing at the bang of a gavel? Will it reappear as if by magic if the appeal is won? Hell, I will settel for some evidence of an *attempt* to "kill" DeCSS, but there is none. None at all.
All the court did was try to muzzle a news outlet. End of list.
Why must people be under the illusion that a judicial or legeslative body has the power to stop anything whatsoever, besides a human heart?
Certainly a court can take away a person's liberty, life and/or property, but making a court decision does not yet have the Merlinian effect of a global erasure of a decyphering program, idea or discussion.
Sorry, doodz, you are missing MY point. A true conservative has the highest regard for individual rights and property.
If I own a machine, I should be able to tell that machine what I want it to do, with my own instruction set/program, or a set given to me by someone else.
DeCSS does not copy anybody else's work, it is origonal work. I fail to understand why you imply that it has some sort of copyright infringement attached to it.
If I purchase a block of metal and want to make a replacement part for my Jeep, nobody should be trying to tell me what size or pattern for bolt holes I may use because someone else used them first. I know that I do not have the right to mill the word "Jeep" into the finished item, without permission, because Jeep did not make the thing, I did. At any rate, doing the above is just as much of a copyright violation as DeCSS.
The case at hand would be if Emmanuel were taken to court for putting my blueprints in his magazine with my permission.
Why you are throwing these meaningless political parties into the mix is beyond me. They can call themselves five legged dogs if they wish and it still does not make them five legged dogs.
Don't be blinded by the label, take a look at the product. Anybody that backed this stupid law is as far from being a true conservative as a Kennedy (pick one).
Can you ever imagine a true conservative even listening to the defense of some lefty
anarchist hacker punks who flagrantly flout the law and are proud of it, while an upstanding
MPAA man in a respectible suit is saying that they're stealing, pirating, corrupting others,
breaking the law, and probably showing people how to crack porn sites to boot.
Frankly, yes I can. Conservatives leaning toward the "law and order" point of view and seeing right through a law that is obviously a violation of basic property rights (since conservatives actually believe that property can be owned;-). There is no way that anybody should be able to license *origonal* instructions to a machine owned by someone else. It might be wrong to copy someone else's instructions and use them as your own, etc, but this is a case of someone coming up with origonal work to tell a machine what to do. I can see a "feel good" liberal/progressive (what is the pretty name these days?) throwing in stuff like "effictive piracy" or "virtual piracy" to make believe that an "idea" has been stolen, but it sure does not sound like a conservative arguement to me.
Try posing this arguement to a "gear head" sort of guy: you can not tell other people how to make milled valve covers in their machine shop, because GM has a copyright and the machining instructions are a "secret". Do you really think that ANYBODY will believe that telling "joe sixpack" what he can do in his own garage, with his own hands and tools, is a conservative arguement?
But first, OB response to da groundhog:
1984 was not written by Orson Wells, it was written by George Orwell.
And now for the link:
my MPAA phone call... by eries. (please mod him up?)
The link is so far down that many might miss it (no excuse, just the facts) and it has this e-mail address for MPAA PR emily_cutner@mpaa.org
We can all
laugh at such words but they represent something
very sinister. We are now expected to believe
that telling someone how to get a file with a
link is the same as offering it yourself. I want
to know if this works both ways - if I point
someone to a site or product that costs money,
is that also a "distinction without a
difference" that will allow me to be
compensated? This kind of logic is already
giving me nightmares.
It gives me other nightmares. It gives the tax man a reason to tax me for funds I have never been promised, nor have ever recieved. Or a Domestic Court deciding that a father must pay child support on same. But thank G_d that 2600 is not in either of those courts.
This smacks me as the judge saying that I have no right to remove the Torx nuts on (insert item) that I bought and paid for, because it needs a "special" security (?) Torx driver (tiny hole in the middle, purchasable anyplace). If I have the gumption to tell others about this, I am violating a "security provision" and then convicted.
For some reason, the same lie repeated over (not in this post) and over again, became "truth" in the press and in that worthless courtroom. DeCSS allows READING, nothing more.
To further PERSICUTE a simple magazine and web site for showing people how to read is absoutly outragious, but not unexpected.
Hopefully, when a court run by a TRUE conservative (USA style) gets hold of this, the mess will be over. Can you ever imagine a true conservative saying that a bunch of "lefties" in Hollywood should tell you what you can do with your own computer equipment? Can you really see a true conservative telling anybody that they can not give their own instructions to their own DVD player to decode and play their own DVD in the privacy of their own home? It is like imagining a conservative telling garage mechanics "you must not use your drill press for drilling 1/4" holes without a license from Ford".
2 different issues actually. I like my job, I just do not like the tools that I am reqired to use right now, i.e., I do not have a "windows" job I am a Logistician. As stated, I am planning to change that.
An issue related to your statement, is that using and running Linux at home does not carry much weight in job world. Several places have called me for Linux jobs, because it is on resume, but insist on candidates having used it at their "regular job".
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1. MS Word
2. MS Excel
3. MS Access
I am stuck with a MSWin machine at work because everything that I do must comply with the above 3 programs.
I do not run them at home, no longer do any work related to the above stuff at home and am currently devising a plot to recreate all of my output on a FreeBSD (or Linux, if Oracle for Linux will not run on FBSD) and Oracle 8i machine.
Perhaps at that time I can actually complete a database app without running out of memory every hour.
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1. The "unwashed masses" do not know that .US exists because it has not been advertised. For some strange reason, beurocrats think they can issue a memo and then the whole world complies. Sorry Bubba, it don't work that way outside of DC (hell, it don't work that way IN DC either, but try convincing a fed of that).
.US domain is the same budget choice for joe sixpack as it is to joe IRS for picking up .gov, or for joe M1A1 to pickup a .mil address. They have no concept of what real "out of pocket" money is.
.US can NOT become *popular* if it is not widely known. (not meant to be a riddle, sorry)
.US widespread and famous. Give them away to a broad base of employees (like soldiers) so that they can market it by word of mouth.
2. Feds do not realize that to make something "unknown" popular amoungst buyers, you use a LOW price, not a HIGH price. They seem to think that massive taxes generate more revenue too. Go figure.
3. For some reason, the feds think that picking ip a
4. Redundant, but needs to be repeated,
Conclusion: the government needs to do the same thing that they did with cigarettes in WW I to make
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Well, the money certianly was not thrown away on the "Loose Cannon" commercial. That one rocks! Had me completely fooled.
However, I can do without the "Power of the Dot" space movie ripoff commercial.
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Could such changes to cameras like these make them more secure?
Just from the standpoint of reducing sucessful sniffing between the camera itself and the network this would be a great security improvement. Both for us ultra-paranoid sorts, as well as for voyure sites that want flexibility of camera placement, but also wish to choke any point of revenue seepage.
Sounds like a GREAT idea!
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About 20 years ago, when I began college, through just a few years ago (when I finally went back and finished college) the University and the professors used radically different methods:
1. They would have "new editions" of textbooks quite frequently. The main difference seemed to be the wording or order of questions assigned for homework. Calc books were the most amazing. Did not know Business student calculus was so dynamic as to require a new adition of the same book every year or 2.
2. "Class packs" were common a few years back, until some lawsuit against Kinko's stalled wholsale copyright violations by professors. Somehow, a way was found around that and class packs were available again, for a pretty hefty price, given the "quality" of a pile of xeroxed paper. BTW, even though the pile of bad quality printed paper was a collection of other's work, don't dare make a copy for a friend or the prof. would have a fit.
It seems that this latest twist has the same effect as the tactics used before, except the professors/textbook writers do not have to move the questions around every couple of terms.
However, in the past there were not any criminal hammers hovering over the students for these violations.
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Salty? Impurities? Magnitism? Dang near any impurity in water lets it conduct electricity! Since it would be close to impossible for any body to have pure, non-conductive water, what is the big suprise?
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The 2 big points that I would make are:
1. Bugs can be found and fixed by a large base of people, however, the company does need to make a serious effort to find the bugs first.
This will result in a large number of knowledgable people that will be referring your product to others as something good/safe to use. You should still be able to sell plenty of product, if you want to, because most folks that a re "just users" prefer a package and some sort of company backing, as well as easier install, etc.
2. Gratuituotous (hell, I can't spell stuff like that) reason: Open Source is a hot buzzword now, but show them that even if the source is open, joe-schmoe user is not interested in compiling for his own machine, so that takes you back to #1 above, you will still sell plenty of product even if it is OS.
Conclusion should be something to the effect of getting lots of community support and assistance that you would not normally have, as well as being able to sell plenty of product.
Give examples of hardware/software that is commercially packaged even though it is available free: Cobolt machines, Linud distros, *BSD, etc.
Sorry if it was not more in depth, I recently picked up a similar dilemma at work and this is all I have come up with sofar.
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I really hate getting this deep into an OT discussion, BUT...
The things you bring up are nice, cute and whatnot. However, the University of Tennessee began in 1794. When was that college in Austin formed? If it was before UT then it would be UMexico, wouldn't it?
Why must UM insist on using orange and white? Those are the UT Knoxville colors, that were around ages before Texas was emancipated from Mexico, with the strong assistance from some prominant Tennesseans.
There is no denying that the University of Mexico, Austin has had some stellar academic achievements, but the initials UT were in use about a century before your 2nd largest state in the union was even thought of.
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I am the first to agree that those with oft heard voices (the press and those with access to mass media) are often overly self important, a trait that I do not like in the least.
However, as self-important as the press may be, the government has no right to treat them this way. Telling people about *something*, anything (in this case, DeCSS) should not result in legal bills and censorship of ANYBODY.
The government already thinks that they can take away our self-defense, free travel and free thought. Free press does not need to go down freedoms have. This Klintonista judge deserves a good fight.
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making a news writer liable for what s/he writes, the content that is, seems to be a little bit like moving towards a F451 future.
Yes it is, I should know.
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It is nice to see a reporter like Declan, that actually knows something about what he writes.
This case is NOT about the legality of DeCSS, it is about muzzling the press.
First it is 2600 Magazine, next it will be any news organization. All the oppressor has to do is point to this case as a precident.
This ruling MUST be overturned if we are to retain what little freedom we *think* that we have left.
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From the log on the website:
.25 pounds == 48.75 pounds consumed thusfar.
.25 Lbs. == 60 Lbs. of gas (with 48.75 pounds consumed thusfar).
"That fantastically efficient propulsion system uses only about 100 grams of xenon propellant each day (or about one pound every 4 days)."
Also:
"Today, the ion propulsion system has logged 195 days of operation."
So, 195 days *
But, they also have this:
"To reach the correct point in space and time to greet the comet as it streaks around the Sun, DS1 will need to thrust with its advanced ion propulsion system for about 8 months. It has now completed over a month of that thrusting, since resuming powered flight at the end of June."
So, we might assume that it has actually been thrusting for 195 days with the most recent consecutive days being the last 30 days.
8 months == ~ 240 days total
So, 240 *
How tightly that gas is packed per gallon is someone else's guess.
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How we went from transparent skin to the Alamo is beyond me...
This is Slashdot. You expected something different?
let me be the first Texan to publically thank the courageous Tennessee citizens (who i'm sure are all dead by now) for the work they did to make create Texas. We couldn't have done it without you.
Thank you very much, from a graduate of the real UT, Knoxville.
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If your card catalogue is just sitting there on paper now, then ANY open source database system will work (yes, even mySQL). Just set it up and start typing in the info. Take your pick of anything out there. A pre-packaged product will not save you an appreciable amount of time in the long run if you have 5,000 volumes that need to be typed into the thing anyway.
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..but what about technology and democracy? can one be used to promote the other?
Yes, they certainly *could* be, but don't hold your breath.
First, we in the USA live in a republic. In a system like that, giving government any control over public communications is dangerous to say the least. Remember the bad-old-days of TV (sometimes called the "Golden Age")? Whenever the sitting president wanted to babble over the air every station had to cary it? Remember the breath of fresh air we got when that ended during the Bush (or was it Regan?) administration?
Well, thanks but no thanks. I will stick with a system where people become interested in technology (or not) on whatever level they like, without "guidance" from the government. Same with politics.
From the other direction, tech promoting democracy? Take a look around. There are endless discussions on any topic imaginable going on through: the 'net, the web, HAM radio, commercial talk radio via call-in, CB radio, student unions, town meetings, bars, etc.
Eventually, ALL of that discussion ends up in a voting booth, one way or another. No, I do not mean that everybody that discussed anything votes, but everybody that votes has had some exposure to the issues that THEY are interested in. Granted, it might not be what YOU or I are interested in, *gosh* might even be a view that we do not agree with!
So, just what the hell is *wrong* with people having the freedom to choose? Are you just not satisfied that it is not ending up the way you want it to end up?
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It is much easier to be involved in the US political process now than it has been in my almost 40 years of life.
The reason fewer people involved is because they DO NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED!
Why this is such a burr under the saddle of those that are involved is beyond me. Sounds suspiciously like self centered arrogance on the part of the political hobbyests and pro's alike.
Just because *I* enjoy or view as important a particular activity does not make others lesser people because they are interested in different things.
When you get down to it, once you get past your local elected officials, the DC based wonks do not have much of a day-to-day impact on the average person. Looks like most people have realized that, since they now have a chice to watch something else *besides* a convention (in contrast to the 1960's) during this season. They are not forced to watch the president on every channel whenever he has the whim to call a press confrence, etc.
So, political hackers, just chill (including me), because other people have other things to do that THEY feel is more important. Anything less would be Stalinist, or at least Chilaian(sp?).
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From the Netpliance I-Opener hacking board: Great GPS implementation has both Win and Linux stuff in it.
This may be more to the point: GPS for Linux on the same board. Mentions Mayko, which is what I will be trying on my vehicle-mounted I-Opener, but on FreeBSD. Not exactly trip planning software, but covers the navigation portion of your question.
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Like I said in my other posts, what they CLAIM is irrelevant. Not sure why you are attaching that to my post. They can call themselves five legged dogs if they want and it does not make them a five legged dogs.
The people you seem to have in mind can call themselves conservatives all they want and YOU might buy that, but I don't consider them to be conservative in any sense of the word and believe that I brought that up in the several threads above.
I am glad that you brought up the more fitting term "strict constitutionalist", since it is obvious that the term "conservative" has been bastardized enough at to have fooled even someone such as yourself.
Everybody that IS a true conservative is a strict constitutionalist. What they label themself is irrelevant.
It kind of reminds me of some of the folks I was around during military service. Touting the label of "conservative" while, in various discussions, they wanted one government mandate and edict after another, like: forced use of english in all commerce; free airtime on all electronic media for "the administration side of the issue"; free military equipment from corporations; etc., etc. The list was endless.
Now, again I say, people that have these views can call themselves conservatives all they want, but they are really liberals, socialistic liberals in the same spirit as Stalin, Hitler and Kaplan. Judge Kaplan being a Clinton appointee.
If you actually BELIEVE that anybody that calls themself a conservative truly is, no matter what their actions or views, then I suggest that you have the perception problem, not I.
I hope you don't believe any screwball with a sword has supreme executive power just because he says some watery tart in a lake threw it at him!
Credits: 5 legged dog ref. Abraham Lincolin in one of his debates with Douglas; Watery Tart ref. Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Both reengineered for this forum.
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First, DeCSS has nothing at all to do with what you state. If it did then the pirates would be using it instead of commercial burners. If it were an individual user issue, the blank media would have to be less expensive than the origonal. It is not. Besides, DeCSS is just a decyphering program. It is not a way to copy anything.
However, the topic has nothing to do with "killing" DeCSS.
The ONLY thing the court did was try to muzzle a news outlet. End of list.
Please, show us where DeCSS has been killed? Has it stopped existing at the bang of a gavel? Will it reappear as if by magic if the appeal is won? Hell, I will settel for some evidence of an *attempt* to "kill" DeCSS, but there is none. None at all.
All the court did was try to muzzle a news outlet. End of list.
Why must people be under the illusion that a judicial or legeslative body has the power to stop anything whatsoever, besides a human heart? Certainly a court can take away a person's liberty, life and/or property, but making a court decision does not yet have the Merlinian effect of a global erasure of a decyphering program, idea or discussion.
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Please mod this guy up? It is refreshing to see a post with a clue.
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Sorry, doodz, you are missing MY point. A true conservative has the highest regard for individual rights and property.
If I own a machine, I should be able to tell that machine what I want it to do, with my own instruction set/program, or a set given to me by someone else.
DeCSS does not copy anybody else's work, it is origonal work. I fail to understand why you imply that it has some sort of copyright infringement attached to it.
If I purchase a block of metal and want to make a replacement part for my Jeep, nobody should be trying to tell me what size or pattern for bolt holes I may use because someone else used them first. I know that I do not have the right to mill the word "Jeep" into the finished item, without permission, because Jeep did not make the thing, I did. At any rate, doing the above is just as much of a copyright violation as DeCSS.
The case at hand would be if Emmanuel were taken to court for putting my blueprints in his magazine with my permission.
Why you are throwing these meaningless political parties into the mix is beyond me. They can call themselves five legged dogs if they wish and it still does not make them five legged dogs.
Don't be blinded by the label, take a look at the product. Anybody that backed this stupid law is as far from being a true conservative as a Kennedy (pick one).
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Can you ever imagine a true conservative even listening to the defense of some lefty anarchist hacker punks who flagrantly flout the law and are proud of it, while an upstanding MPAA man in a respectible suit is saying that they're stealing, pirating, corrupting others, breaking the law, and probably showing people how to crack porn sites to boot.
;-). There is no way that anybody should be able to license *origonal* instructions to a machine owned by someone else. It might be wrong to copy someone else's instructions and use them as your own, etc, but this is a case of someone coming up with origonal work to tell a machine what to do. I can see a "feel good" liberal/progressive (what is the pretty name these days?) throwing in stuff like "effictive piracy" or "virtual piracy" to make believe that an "idea" has been stolen, but it sure does not sound like a conservative arguement to me.
Frankly, yes I can. Conservatives leaning toward the "law and order" point of view and seeing right through a law that is obviously a violation of basic property rights (since conservatives actually believe that property can be owned
Try posing this arguement to a "gear head" sort of guy: you can not tell other people how to make milled valve covers in their machine shop, because GM has a copyright and the machining instructions are a "secret". Do you really think that ANYBODY will believe that telling "joe sixpack" what he can do in his own garage, with his own hands and tools, is a conservative arguement?
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But first, OB response to da groundhog: 1984 was not written by Orson Wells, it was written by George Orwell. And now for the link: my MPAA phone call... by eries. (please mod him up?)
The link is so far down that many might miss it (no excuse, just the facts) and it has this e-mail address for MPAA PR emily_cutner@mpaa.org
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We can all laugh at such words but they represent something very sinister. We are now expected to believe that telling someone how to get a file with a link is the same as offering it yourself. I want to know if this works both ways - if I point someone to a site or product that costs money, is that also a "distinction without a difference" that will allow me to be compensated? This kind of logic is already giving me nightmares.
It gives me other nightmares. It gives the tax man a reason to tax me for funds I have never been promised, nor have ever recieved. Or a Domestic Court deciding that a father must pay child support on same. But thank G_d that 2600 is not in either of those courts.
This smacks me as the judge saying that I have no right to remove the Torx nuts on (insert item) that I bought and paid for, because it needs a "special" security (?) Torx driver (tiny hole in the middle, purchasable anyplace). If I have the gumption to tell others about this, I am violating a "security provision" and then convicted.
For some reason, the same lie repeated over (not in this post) and over again, became "truth" in the press and in that worthless courtroom. DeCSS allows READING, nothing more.
To further PERSICUTE a simple magazine and web site for showing people how to read is absoutly outragious, but not unexpected.
Hopefully, when a court run by a TRUE conservative (USA style) gets hold of this, the mess will be over. Can you ever imagine a true conservative saying that a bunch of "lefties" in Hollywood should tell you what you can do with your own computer equipment? Can you really see a true conservative telling anybody that they can not give their own instructions to their own DVD player to decode and play their own DVD in the privacy of their own home? It is like imagining a conservative telling garage mechanics "you must not use your drill press for drilling 1/4" holes without a license from Ford".
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