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Why isn't Kittinger's jump a high-altitude record?
Q. You said the highest jump ever was by E. Andreev from 80,360 feet in 1962. Why isn't Joseph
Kittinger's jump from 102,800 feet (April 16, 1960) considered the record?
A. We said the highest freefall was by Andreev. Kittinger used a drogue to help keep him from tumbling
and spinning during his famous jump, problems that he had on earlier jumps. The International
Aeronautic Federation, which oversees aviation records, recognizes only high-altitude freefall jumps.
I wouldn't suggest to any tandem students that they're not free falling. But for the purposes of record keeping it appears that Kittinger's dive from 102,800 isn't/wasn't considered a free fall dive.
Depends how she's flying actually. At ~10,000 feet I think that "normal TV" would be something closer to the following:
* on her belly: ~115
* sitting: ~140-150
* head down: ~170+
Of course that without the added weight of a space suit, oxygen, etc... Who know, maybe she'll come down faster than even 215. I'm willing to bet that opening is going to be a bitch!
The last one was damn close to free falling. The guy, who's name escapes me at the moment, used what is referred to as a "drogue chute" to help maintain stability during the fall. It's not as if he were coming down with wings or a jet pack.
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Looks to me as if this isn't a "new" machine, but rather a new name...
Is should - the article seemed to suggest that they were giving away Compaq and Dell machines. I'm not sure about Compaq, but Dell (in my experience) has been fairly standard hardware.
Now I'm a little pissed off. I applied for one of those a while back and never got one. Oh well....
Most serious Linux users don't give a rats arse whether Linux competes with Windoze on the desktop.
Which "serious" Linux users are those? Are they the coding staff at RedHat, Corel, or SuSE? I'm willing to bet that they care about competing with Windows on the desktop, after all Linux is effectively their life and main source of income these days. The simple fact of the matter is that there are more desktop machines than there are servers, for this reason and this reason alone these companies are going to invest significant resources in making Linux desktop and user friendly.
Once the community recognizes this, we can move forward with MEANINGFUL work instead of trying to create a windoze workalike.
OK, which community are you referring to? What exactly do you mean by "MEANINGFUL work"? Are you suggesting that the current work is not meaningful? If it isn't meaningful then what is it?
One of the nice things about this community is that if you don't like the way something is being done then you're more than welcome to either contribute or take the existing code and start your own project.
Sorry if this sounds a bit inflamatory, but it's just the way I see it.
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What people really don't like (myself included) is that people can make insane ammounts of money from something that is inferior. If it was good I would say that they deserve all the money (maybe). However seriously if you did half-assed work at your professional job how long would you be employed? Unless you know hypnotism not a very long time.
That's the beauty of a market driven economy, hell, short of motivation there's nothing stopping you from doing the same thing. The problem though is that the market will decide who wins and who loses. All that money you made on your IPO could be gone in a year or two if the market decides that your product is crap.:)
So, if I'm reading the story right, this means that one person is going to rewrite the IP stack for support for Winmodem drivers. Linux needs more driver support, so I think this is a step in the right direction, but perhaps this should wait for the new version? It's kind of bad for someone to spend the effort on doing this and then have it be obsolete in a matter of weeks.
Not really - I think that there are 2 different stories here. The first being about a potential rewrite of the Linux IP Stack, and the second being about possible support for WinModems.
The IP Stack isn't even remotely related to WinModem support.
OK. You're cool. Let's use silly pranks and act like a 13 year old. Unfortunately this seems to be the typical/. response to things we don't understand or don't like.
I'll admit that this is a lame publicity stunt, but to suggest that we use neat-o leet-o script-kiddie tools to bring the site down and have the post moderated up is just unbelievable.
There was time on/. when people read the article in question and actually thought about it before they posted. There was a time when there was intelligent conversation on/. - it seems that time is gone. Too bad really...
f the windows API was opened because of the DOJ trial, what would you do?
A) Exploit every weakness from here to kingdom come, thereby propelling linux to the forefront.
First, I don't understand how exposing specific Windows vulnerabilities would propel 'linux to the forefront'. Your statement doesn't support your conclusion.
Anyhow... (and more on topic with your original post) if you pay attention, every exploit is closely followed by a fix. Exposing weaknesses in Windows would really just help, in the long run, to make it a more viable alternative to UNIX.
...Linux is braving uncharted water in a number of previously shunned areas (I was stunned to find, for example, that I can choose to enable a kernel-based static http server in my Linux kernel as of 2.3.x). This willingness to break with UNIX tradition is what sets Linux apart, and frankly is the reason that many of us like it....
I think that this is really one of the reasons that people choose BSD over Linux. While Linux is busy developing a 'kernel-based static http server' the BSD developers are ensuring a perfect blend between new features (as demanded by the market) and stability.
I think it all boils down to the user. BSD users have come to expect a ROCK SOLID operating system. A system that does exactly what's expected of it, exactly as advertised. Linux users seem more willing to accept half operational features because they're 'new and cool'.
FWIW, FreeBSD takes of the web frontend and Solaris handles the database which stores all the mail. To my knowledge it was never anything _but_ FreeBSD & Solaris. M$ tried, and quickly backed out NT because it just couldn't scale to something this size.
I'm sorry, but that just sounds like a great big fucking load of crap. If you have something useful to contribute to the project then do it, hiding behind a license (which you apparently don't know much about) is just a cop-out.
Have you even bothered to read the Xfree86 license? Or are you just stock on the GPL because it's the "in thing" these days.
Just a thought, but has anyone considered getting rid of the AC posting privs?
I imagine it might cut down on the number of post which get the score of -1, or the label Troll, Flamebait, etc... Holding people responsible for their actions/words might actually go a long way to improve the level of discussion in the slashdot fourms.
Like the_ed, I would be interested in some basic stats from the Yoda machine (and the rest of the machines on the slashdot network. Something that included the loadavg, uptime, MB sent/requested, etc...
Nothing particularly detailed, just the basics. I think it would be interesting/informative for everyone.
Just out of curiousity, did you bother to do a traceroute to verify that the problem was indeed with CDROM.COM and not a broken/slow link somewhere else between you and them?
But it's more than just 13MB p/s. I'm sure almost any modern OS, including NT, could pump through 13MB p/s. But cdrom.com is doing much more than that. It's managing 5000 concurrent connections as well. I don't know that any OS could do that _and_ still pump out 13MB p/s.
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This is from: http://www.skydivingmagazine.com/ques13.htm
Why isn't Kittinger's jump a high-altitude record?
Q. You said the highest jump ever was by E. Andreev from 80,360 feet in 1962. Why isn't Joseph
Kittinger's jump from 102,800 feet (April 16, 1960) considered the record?
A. We said the highest freefall was by Andreev. Kittinger used a drogue to help keep him from tumbling
and spinning during his famous jump, problems that he had on earlier jumps. The International
Aeronautic Federation, which oversees aviation records, recognizes only high-altitude freefall jumps.
I wouldn't suggest to any tandem students that they're not free falling. But for the purposes of record keeping it appears that Kittinger's dive from 102,800 isn't/wasn't considered a free fall dive.
Depends how she's flying actually. At ~10,000 feet I think that "normal TV" would be something closer to the following:
* on her belly: ~115
* sitting: ~140-150
* head down: ~170+
Of course that without the added weight of a space suit, oxygen, etc... Who know, maybe she'll come down faster than even 215. I'm willing to bet that opening is going to be a bitch!
The last one was damn close to free falling. The guy, who's name escapes me at the moment, used what is referred to as a "drogue chute" to help maintain stability during the fall. It's not as if he were coming down with wings or a jet pack.
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Looks to me as if this isn't a "new" machine, but rather a new name...
Is should - the article seemed to suggest that they were giving away Compaq and Dell machines. I'm not sure about Compaq, but Dell (in my experience) has been fairly standard hardware.
Now I'm a little pissed off. I applied for one of those a while back and never got one. Oh well....
Most serious Linux users don't give a rats arse whether Linux competes with Windoze on the desktop.
Which "serious" Linux users are those? Are they the coding staff at RedHat, Corel, or SuSE? I'm willing to bet that they care about competing with Windows on the desktop, after all Linux is effectively their life and main source of income these days. The simple fact of the matter is that there are more desktop machines than there are servers, for this reason and this reason alone these companies are going to invest significant resources in making Linux desktop and user friendly.
Once the community recognizes this, we can move forward with MEANINGFUL work instead of trying to create a windoze workalike.
OK, which community are you referring to? What exactly do you mean by "MEANINGFUL work"? Are you suggesting that the current work is not meaningful? If it isn't meaningful then what is it?
One of the nice things about this community is that if you don't like the way something is being done then you're more than welcome to either contribute or take the existing code and start your own project.
Sorry if this sounds a bit inflamatory, but it's just the way I see it.
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What people really don't like (myself included) is that people can make insane ammounts of money from something that is inferior. If it was good I would say that they deserve all the money (maybe). However seriously if you did half-assed work at your professional job how long would you be employed? Unless you know hypnotism not a very long time.
:)
That's the beauty of a market driven economy, hell, short of motivation there's nothing stopping you from doing the same thing. The problem though is that the market will decide who wins and who loses. All that money you made on your IPO could be gone in a year or two if the market decides that your product is crap.
Go Capitilism!
Better yet, can it top Max Headroom?
So, if I'm reading the story right, this means that one person is going to rewrite the IP stack for support for
Winmodem drivers. Linux needs more driver support, so I think this is a step in the right direction, but perhaps this
should wait for the new version? It's kind of bad for someone to spend the effort on doing this and then have it be
obsolete in a matter of weeks.
Not really - I think that there are 2 different stories here. The first being about a potential rewrite of the Linux IP Stack, and the second being about possible support for WinModems.
The IP Stack isn't even remotely related to WinModem support.
OK. You're cool. Let's use silly pranks and act like a 13 year old. Unfortunately this seems to be the typical /. response to things we don't understand or don't like.
/. when people read the article in question and actually thought about it before they posted. There was a time when there was intelligent conversation on /. - it seems that time is gone. Too bad really...
I'll admit that this is a lame publicity stunt, but to suggest that we use neat-o leet-o script-kiddie tools to bring the site down and have the post moderated up is just unbelievable.
There was time on
f the windows API was opened because of the DOJ trial, what would you do?
A) Exploit every weakness from here to kingdom come, thereby propelling linux to the forefront.
First, I don't understand how exposing specific Windows vulnerabilities would propel 'linux to the forefront'. Your statement doesn't support your conclusion.
Anyhow... (and more on topic with your original post) if you pay attention, every exploit is closely followed by a fix. Exposing weaknesses in Windows would really just help, in the long run, to make it a more viable alternative to UNIX.
...Linux is braving uncharted water in a number of previously shunned areas (I was stunned to find, for example, that I can choose to enable a kernel-based static http server in my Linux kernel as of 2.3.x). This willingness to break with UNIX tradition is what sets Linux apart, and frankly is the reason that many of us like it. ...
I think that this is really one of the reasons that people choose BSD over Linux. While Linux is busy developing a 'kernel-based static http server' the BSD developers are ensuring a perfect blend between new features (as demanded by the market) and stability.
I think it all boils down to the user. BSD users have come to expect a ROCK SOLID operating system. A system that does exactly what's expected of it, exactly as advertised. Linux users seem more willing to accept half operational features because they're 'new and cool'.
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/video/homecookin.htm was not found on this server.
The requested URL
Apache/1.3.3 Server at www.free-ip.com Port 80
FWIW, FreeBSD takes of the web frontend and Solaris handles the database which stores all the mail. To my knowledge it was never anything _but_ FreeBSD & Solaris. M$ tried, and quickly backed out NT because it just couldn't scale to something this size.
I'm sorry, but that just sounds like a great big fucking load of crap. If you have something useful to contribute to the project then do it, hiding behind a license (which you apparently don't know much about) is just a cop-out.
Have you even bothered to read the Xfree86 license? Or are you just stock on the GPL because it's the "in thing" these days.
Put up or shut up.
Just a thought, but has anyone considered getting rid of the AC posting privs?
I imagine it might cut down on the number of post which get the score of -1, or the label Troll, Flamebait, etc... Holding people responsible for their actions/words might actually go a long way to improve the level of discussion in the slashdot fourms.
Again, just a thought...
Like the_ed, I would be interested in some basic stats from the Yoda machine (and the rest of the machines on the slashdot network. Something that included the loadavg, uptime, MB sent/requested, etc...
Nothing particularly detailed, just the basics. I think it would be interesting/informative for everyone.
Just out of curiousity, did you bother to do a traceroute to verify that the problem was indeed with CDROM.COM and not a broken/slow link somewhere else between you and them?
Ohh! I really did miss the point then. I thought you were attempting to dispute the claim.
Apologies!
But it's more than just 13MB p/s. I'm sure almost any modern OS, including NT, could pump through 13MB p/s. But cdrom.com is doing much more than that. It's managing 5000 concurrent connections as well. I don't know that any OS could do that _and_ still pump out 13MB p/s.
The claim came from the server generated stats.
What exactly would you propose we do? Count the bits one at a time as they leave WC CDROM?
The subject says it all. What exactly _is_ your point?
:/
This is genuine curiousity here. Your point went right by me.