If, if, and if. I don't have to hide it because it's light. You're speaking of darkness....much different. And no it's not a good way. It's an evil way. I know because I seek the truth. You don't because you don't. By the way: did Jesus resist when they came to crucify Him?
First....there is no option to switch to threaded view. That about sums that up. I'm technosavvy enough to know how to switch when the option exists. Next you never were a Christian or you'd know the things you say simply are not true. That's final. Not because I said so either, but because that's the way it is. Any Christian can see it too. Those that refuse to see it, or understand it won't. It's set that way. Accept it or don't. You're proof that it works exactly that way. So am I.
Yes I did. Perhaps you didn't understand. You haven't changed what you originally were. What God made you is what you are, regardless of what physical changes you may have made. As such, if you're male, and a Christian, you can marry a female Christian. If you're female, and a Christian, you can marry a Christian male. And if you're not Christian it matters not for you're still living in sin. The first thing to do is become a Christian. Until then nothing else really matters, except to know to do right and not do it can only make things worse for you.
Again, slavery he referred to was a different type of slavery. Still to own as slaves were recently owned, yes it would be wrong. It would be wrong to fight against them [slave owners] as well. Not a Christian's place to do so. There is no physical fight against anything human that is allowed of Christians. Those times were different still.
You really need to study and give to understanding before you coming to conclusions. As it is you don't understand it, and thus coming to wrong conclusions. No, giving oneself to Him doesn't sound gay. How does that sound gay when it's a woman doing so. When there are no thoughts of behaving gay then there's no reason for it to sound as such. Also there's no reason to sin when being loyal to those we serve. Should they tell us to do something sinful then if we do it it's not behaving as we should. It only helps them to sin also, and that doesn't help them. Besides that, you say "if". When has " if" happened? I am not concerned with if, but rather right now. I have yet to have an employer tell me to do something sinful. As such, and there being plenty of evil currently, I'm not concerned w/such and don't need to be. If there's a tomorrow, and if that happens, and if I can't explain to the employer why it's wrong, and if...., and if...., and, and, and. You get the idea. There's too many ifs, ands, and buts to worry about such. Point is be loyal. There's no need for what if. Now I have to go back to see the rest of your statement.
Oh yes. Slaves. Slavery now is much different than then. We are all under slavery of some type. Christians are slaves to Christ. Most people are slaves to money, or material things. We have to be clear as to what Paul is referring to. As an employee, whether for pay w/money, or in bondage, we are to be loyal to our masters/bosses/employer/etc. There is nothing wrong w/that. Even Jesus didn't fight against those that were going to kill him. Why would it be such a terrible thing to submit to our masters? There is nothing so horrible they can do to us that even compares to the glory God has in store, for us that give ourselves to Him.
The Word isn't silent on the subject. And not to change the subject but it would be much more easy to respond to someone if this site would let you read what it is your responding to while typing. Sorry, but I can't remember everything you said, and if I switch back to it everything I typed gets deleted, so hang w/me. I'll try to answer your questions, but it may be in parts. Sure you can be a Christian. You simply have to stop living in the conditions you currently choose to live in. That you have to change your body back to what God made it, I don't find any evidence to support. If it were me, I would. That's just a personal preference though, as it would make getting through life much easier. If you want to be constantly questioned though, and feel you're up to answering those questions, it's certainly your call. As for priests, deacons, etc: yes there are many, many, that are not Christian. In fact most that are called deacons aren't even qualified to be such. Where do you draw the line? At the place one refuses to stop continuously committing the same sin. It's not necessary to continue in sin. That's a cop out society has promoted. Evryone (not literally, but as a figure of speech) wants to keep living basically the way they have been, and then say they're Christian upon doing some act. It doesn't work that way. A Christian puts that old way of life away, and then lives a life for Christ, rhe way the Word instructs to. Most either ignore the facts, or they spend wasteful time trying to justify their behavior, rather than simply following the Word. When you base each and every step taken, on the Word, doing it because that's what the Word says to do, you don't have to try to justify it. It's already justified. Stop trying to make a way of life right. Instead change the way of life to fit the instructions left for us.
Why not the KJV? It's the only English version available that was transliterated from the scripts. Every other version has discrepancies in them. I'm not saying one can't question some of the KJV, but as of yet any I've questioned have been answered by further study. Most other English versions, as well as some, if not all, other versions have been translated from the KJV. And a poor job most have done.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Paul's teachings. They coming from above and inspired of God they cannot be wrong. Furthermore the alostles were given rhe authority that what they set as something would also be set as that same above....if they said it Christ and God will back it up. Jesus never taught love as meaning to accept a behavior or action to be okay. I discipline my children because I love them. It certainly doesn't mean that I don't love them. To love a murderer does not in any way mean you approve of their actions or that it's acceptable for them to do such horrors. The same w/acting gay. To behave i such a way is wrong. To accept living that way is not love. Love does not promote sin. As well to love someone that live as gay does not mean you approve of their way of life. In fact if you love them you'll try to help them see their way of life is wrong and to see the right way. To disapprove of acting gay is not in conflict of what Jesus taught. To look down on someone living as gay is in conflict w/His teachings. Two entirely different things. Someone behaving gay cannot be a Christian anymore than a murderer or rapist can. However if they repent - meaning to have a sorrowful heart for doing those wrongs, and to stop doing them, and start living right - and obey the gospel, any of them can be a Christian. To suggest to them otherwise is just the opposite of love,because for one it only encourages them to continue living in sin which can only end in an eternity of great sorrow. As with many other ideas, people need to learn God's definition of love before promoting false ideas. Because so many are worried about offending someone they say what sounds comforting - including many so called preachers. This has only lead to more of the same and many, many believing false doctrines. If it's not right don't say it. If it can't be supported by the Word don't promote it. And make certain it can be before saying it. If we promote false ideas, and it leads some the wrong direction, reckon where that'll put us in the day of judgment.
If I tell you there's a brick wall in front of you, then you keep talking, denying such, continue walking with your eyes closed, even going so far as to put earphones on making it so that you can't hear the warning or the echo coming from the wall, and then run into that wall, who then is the wackadoodle? Failure to see what is before your very eyes, of things that have been proved, and can be proven if one opens their eyes and sees rather than refusing it, in no way constitutes fraud on another. Just because you refuse to see the truth, and obviously in no way understand it (the Bible does not order us to do those things you mentioned), does not mean the truth is any less true. Some of us can easily see it. Of course we allowed the blinds to be removed from our eyes too. That likely has much to do with how we can see the truth and you can't. Try it and you'll be surprised at just how wrong you are. If you're not going to then you simply have no basis for your statements and are only blowing hot air.
No, it doesn't replace it. It ended as it had been completed - fulfilled. The documentation of the old still exists, like an old car that's out back. You can still look it over, study on it to see how the new car came about, and see the progress made from then to the new ones. The old can be studied to better understand the new. The new didn't push the old over and replace it. It simply began where the old ended. If you were able to understand the Bible, and from your comment there's no doubting that you don't and can't, you'd see that what you say doesn't even compare to being correct. You can't take ignorance of the truth, think and state something completely wrong, and expect it to have more weight to it than the truth, or for it to be accepted as correct when what it's in reference to shows something entirely different. Fact is the truth is hidden from those that don't want the truth. That can't be disputed, for it being hidden it can't be seen, by those not wanting the truth, therefore they can't see or know it to prove otherwise. Being Christian I know the truth of God and His Word. It being obvious that you're not, and don't seek the truth, it's not possible for you to know the truth. Those are facts, as can be seen by your very words.
Just so you know, thought I'd add this. Early Europeans, Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and any other name along side of Christian just don't go together. It prevents them from being Christian. Christians are only "Christian". No other name can go w/Christian and it remain Christian. It becomes two, or three, or however many names, and thus takes away from the name Christian. It gives recognition to more than only Christ. Christians do not do that as it's not authorized for one. Also some - to many - of the things, those people do, that put another name w/Christian, are in conflict w/the very meaning of,and requirements to be a, Christian. That in itself prevents them from being Christian. Don't be fooled by common, popular beliefs and false thinking. They may call themselves Christian, but unless they can show their actions, thoughts, and words to be authorized, through the use of the Bible, they are only empty words.
Let's try again.
"Then he goes on in the very next verse to explain that the law is not fulfilled "until heaven and earth disappear," and that until God ends the world "not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law." "
That's not what He said though. Not exactly anyway.
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
He doesn't say that heaven and earth has to pass before it can be fulfilled. Rather that it will all be fulfilled - none of it left undone or skipped over. It was to be in full effect till all be fulfilled, till the end. It was fulfilled. Nothing about it was left out, no I's left undotted, no T's left uncrossed. All of it was completed by Him coming here and giving His life on the Cross. That was the fulfilling of that old law, as is easily seen through studying and rightly dividing the Word. When Jesus died on that Cross it fulfilled ALL that was left of the law. It was completed before the end of time, and as such His statement in verse 18 was true. It may not have been the end of time, but it doesn't matter because nothing passed from that law, it having been completed.
Because He stated it the way that He did, it leaves much that could still happen after heaven and earth pass. One possibility being that any number of commandments, or descriptions could be removed from those old laws, and thereby clearing, or excusing, some from past times sins. There's much that's left of possibilities, because od those statements.
That's not the issue though. What is, is if the law could be fulfilled prior to the end. There's nothing He said that would prevent it from being fulfilled, and fulfill it he did. While He lived He was under that law and therefore taught those, at that time, to obey the old law. He too obeyed it. As for His new covenant, He only taught of it to come. He didn't teach that any, of that time, should follow it. Rather they were to follow it upon it being put into place. It couldn't be until the old was ended. That old being done away w/upon His death, the new was established upon Christ having risen. There is no old law to follow as it has been fulfilled. Nothing was left undone either. Now it's complete and there can be the passing of heaven and earth, w/out there being a conflict between the two.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
That dude Paul was selected, authorized, and directed, to say that he did, by Christ and God, so exactly what is your point? God amd Christ still say it. They just had Paul write it....you know similar to when you have your children take out the trash, or your boss has you to do a job. Paul,being and apostle, it was his job to teach others the Word. Some of which he did through his letters to some of the various congregations, all being authorized by God. That therefore making it God's Word, which would also make it Christ's.
First let me say this: the way this site is set up to render on my device makes it very difficult to find who left what statement, or what it was in reference to. So, it's very possible that this has already been resolved, and I simply haven't stumbled onto it. If so, my apologies. Now,"this" being: The old laws were most definitely ended. They were nailed to cross and ended when Jesus died. Christians are not under the law. Laws are for those that would break the laws. A Christian wouldn't, intentionally, break the laws, therefore there's no reason for one to be under a law. (To be Christian one has to be Christlike/of Christ, and have Christ in them. Any that don't are not Christian. Christ being of God cannot sin. He being in a Christian, a Christian won't sin. Should what was a Christian sin, Christ is in them no more, thereby preventing them from being Christian.) The New Testimont is easy to understand, and it's very clear as to how a Christian will live and behave. At least it is to those of us that have searched out, and been revealed the truth. I suppose for those that don't know Christ or God, it's rather overwhelming. That being because the Bible, having been worded, or directed,by God, and God being from above, makes His Word [Bible] also from above, and it's not for those that are not Christian to fully understand the things of above. In fact some things are hidden from those that fail to know the truth. In other words don't be all upset that you can't understand the Bible, or that Christians tell of one thing while you read some other meaning into it. It's supposed to be that way, as you're not capable of fully understanding it. You'd be much better off being upset as to WHY you can't understand it. If you researched that, and then did what is necessary to understand it, it would all make much more sense to you. Unless you do you're wasting your time trying to make heads or tails out of the Word of God. Sometimes I think it'd be easier if He'd made it so all could understand. Then, if nothing else, I see a humorous side of God. It's kin of nice actually knowing something much more important than some of the greatest masterminds to ever have lived. It gets rather old they being able to know, and figure out, things most of us will never have a clue about. Then when one stops and thinks, it's realized that the mastermind doesn't really know anything of importance. Really, and truthfully, though it's quite sad the state they, and most, are actually in. Seek the truth and ye shall find it. To do so though you have to be willing to accept that most of what you thought to be true is, in fact, not.
And yet another commit by someone that obviously has no clue about what they're saying, or if it's even correct. Why people spout stuff off w/first verifying it is beyond me. I don't mean verifying it by listening to what many others say either, or by picking a few words from here and there - such as a verse or even a few chapters of the Bible - either. I mean actually verifying it through facts. And here's a verifiable fact: Christians are not told to kill anyone. In fact they are told to not kill anyone. That is according to what Christians use as their guide - the Word of God, aka: the Bible. Something else may say that Christians are to kill, but it'd be irrelevant as Christians are not obligated to obey any other than God/Christ. Please get your words strait, and correct, before posting them. If you doubt that I say, & I hope you do, check the source and you'll find what I say is true.
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If, if, and if. I don't have to hide it because it's light. You're speaking of darkness....much different. And no it's not a good way. It's an evil way. I know because I seek the truth. You don't because you don't. By the way: did Jesus resist when they came to crucify Him?
First....there is no option to switch to threaded view. That about sums that up. I'm technosavvy enough to know how to switch when the option exists. Next you never were a Christian or you'd know the things you say simply are not true. That's final. Not because I said so either, but because that's the way it is. Any Christian can see it too. Those that refuse to see it, or understand it won't. It's set that way. Accept it or don't. You're proof that it works exactly that way. So am I.
Yes I did. Perhaps you didn't understand. You haven't changed what you originally were. What God made you is what you are, regardless of what physical changes you may have made. As such, if you're male, and a Christian, you can marry a female Christian. If you're female, and a Christian, you can marry a Christian male. And if you're not Christian it matters not for you're still living in sin. The first thing to do is become a Christian. Until then nothing else really matters, except to know to do right and not do it can only make things worse for you.
Again, slavery he referred to was a different type of slavery. Still to own as slaves were recently owned, yes it would be wrong. It would be wrong to fight against them [slave owners] as well. Not a Christian's place to do so. There is no physical fight against anything human that is allowed of Christians. Those times were different still.
You really need to study and give to understanding before you coming to conclusions. As it is you don't understand it, and thus coming to wrong conclusions. No, giving oneself to Him doesn't sound gay. How does that sound gay when it's a woman doing so. When there are no thoughts of behaving gay then there's no reason for it to sound as such. Also there's no reason to sin when being loyal to those we serve. Should they tell us to do something sinful then if we do it it's not behaving as we should. It only helps them to sin also, and that doesn't help them. Besides that, you say "if". When has " if" happened? I am not concerned with if, but rather right now. I have yet to have an employer tell me to do something sinful. As such, and there being plenty of evil currently, I'm not concerned w/such and don't need to be. If there's a tomorrow, and if that happens, and if I can't explain to the employer why it's wrong, and if...., and if...., and, and, and. You get the idea. There's too many ifs, ands, and buts to worry about such. Point is be loyal. There's no need for what if. Now I have to go back to see the rest of your statement.
Oh yes. Slaves. Slavery now is much different than then. We are all under slavery of some type. Christians are slaves to Christ. Most people are slaves to money, or material things. We have to be clear as to what Paul is referring to. As an employee, whether for pay w/money, or in bondage, we are to be loyal to our masters/bosses/employer/etc. There is nothing wrong w/that. Even Jesus didn't fight against those that were going to kill him. Why would it be such a terrible thing to submit to our masters? There is nothing so horrible they can do to us that even compares to the glory God has in store, for us that give ourselves to Him.
The Word isn't silent on the subject. And not to change the subject but it would be much more easy to respond to someone if this site would let you read what it is your responding to while typing. Sorry, but I can't remember everything you said, and if I switch back to it everything I typed gets deleted, so hang w/me. I'll try to answer your questions, but it may be in parts. Sure you can be a Christian. You simply have to stop living in the conditions you currently choose to live in. That you have to change your body back to what God made it, I don't find any evidence to support. If it were me, I would. That's just a personal preference though, as it would make getting through life much easier. If you want to be constantly questioned though, and feel you're up to answering those questions, it's certainly your call. As for priests, deacons, etc: yes there are many, many, that are not Christian. In fact most that are called deacons aren't even qualified to be such. Where do you draw the line? At the place one refuses to stop continuously committing the same sin. It's not necessary to continue in sin. That's a cop out society has promoted. Evryone (not literally, but as a figure of speech) wants to keep living basically the way they have been, and then say they're Christian upon doing some act. It doesn't work that way. A Christian puts that old way of life away, and then lives a life for Christ, rhe way the Word instructs to. Most either ignore the facts, or they spend wasteful time trying to justify their behavior, rather than simply following the Word. When you base each and every step taken, on the Word, doing it because that's what the Word says to do, you don't have to try to justify it. It's already justified. Stop trying to make a way of life right. Instead change the way of life to fit the instructions left for us.
Why not the KJV? It's the only English version available that was transliterated from the scripts. Every other version has discrepancies in them. I'm not saying one can't question some of the KJV, but as of yet any I've questioned have been answered by further study. Most other English versions, as well as some, if not all, other versions have been translated from the KJV. And a poor job most have done.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with Paul's teachings. They coming from above and inspired of God they cannot be wrong. Furthermore the alostles were given rhe authority that what they set as something would also be set as that same above....if they said it Christ and God will back it up. Jesus never taught love as meaning to accept a behavior or action to be okay. I discipline my children because I love them. It certainly doesn't mean that I don't love them. To love a murderer does not in any way mean you approve of their actions or that it's acceptable for them to do such horrors. The same w/acting gay. To behave i such a way is wrong. To accept living that way is not love. Love does not promote sin. As well to love someone that live as gay does not mean you approve of their way of life. In fact if you love them you'll try to help them see their way of life is wrong and to see the right way. To disapprove of acting gay is not in conflict of what Jesus taught. To look down on someone living as gay is in conflict w/His teachings. Two entirely different things. Someone behaving gay cannot be a Christian anymore than a murderer or rapist can. However if they repent - meaning to have a sorrowful heart for doing those wrongs, and to stop doing them, and start living right - and obey the gospel, any of them can be a Christian. To suggest to them otherwise is just the opposite of love,because for one it only encourages them to continue living in sin which can only end in an eternity of great sorrow. As with many other ideas, people need to learn God's definition of love before promoting false ideas. Because so many are worried about offending someone they say what sounds comforting - including many so called preachers. This has only lead to more of the same and many, many believing false doctrines. If it's not right don't say it. If it can't be supported by the Word don't promote it. And make certain it can be before saying it. If we promote false ideas, and it leads some the wrong direction, reckon where that'll put us in the day of judgment.
If I tell you there's a brick wall in front of you, then you keep talking, denying such, continue walking with your eyes closed, even going so far as to put earphones on making it so that you can't hear the warning or the echo coming from the wall, and then run into that wall, who then is the wackadoodle? Failure to see what is before your very eyes, of things that have been proved, and can be proven if one opens their eyes and sees rather than refusing it, in no way constitutes fraud on another. Just because you refuse to see the truth, and obviously in no way understand it (the Bible does not order us to do those things you mentioned), does not mean the truth is any less true. Some of us can easily see it. Of course we allowed the blinds to be removed from our eyes too. That likely has much to do with how we can see the truth and you can't. Try it and you'll be surprised at just how wrong you are. If you're not going to then you simply have no basis for your statements and are only blowing hot air.
No, it doesn't replace it. It ended as it had been completed - fulfilled. The documentation of the old still exists, like an old car that's out back. You can still look it over, study on it to see how the new car came about, and see the progress made from then to the new ones. The old can be studied to better understand the new. The new didn't push the old over and replace it. It simply began where the old ended. If you were able to understand the Bible, and from your comment there's no doubting that you don't and can't, you'd see that what you say doesn't even compare to being correct. You can't take ignorance of the truth, think and state something completely wrong, and expect it to have more weight to it than the truth, or for it to be accepted as correct when what it's in reference to shows something entirely different. Fact is the truth is hidden from those that don't want the truth. That can't be disputed, for it being hidden it can't be seen, by those not wanting the truth, therefore they can't see or know it to prove otherwise. Being Christian I know the truth of God and His Word. It being obvious that you're not, and don't seek the truth, it's not possible for you to know the truth. Those are facts, as can be seen by your very words.
Just so you know, thought I'd add this. Early Europeans, Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and any other name along side of Christian just don't go together. It prevents them from being Christian. Christians are only "Christian". No other name can go w/Christian and it remain Christian. It becomes two, or three, or however many names, and thus takes away from the name Christian. It gives recognition to more than only Christ. Christians do not do that as it's not authorized for one. Also some - to many - of the things, those people do, that put another name w/Christian, are in conflict w/the very meaning of,and requirements to be a, Christian. That in itself prevents them from being Christian. Don't be fooled by common, popular beliefs and false thinking. They may call themselves Christian, but unless they can show their actions, thoughts, and words to be authorized, through the use of the Bible, they are only empty words.
Let's try again. "Then he goes on in the very next verse to explain that the law is not fulfilled "until heaven and earth disappear," and that until God ends the world "not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law." " That's not what He said though. Not exactly anyway. 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. He doesn't say that heaven and earth has to pass before it can be fulfilled. Rather that it will all be fulfilled - none of it left undone or skipped over. It was to be in full effect till all be fulfilled, till the end. It was fulfilled. Nothing about it was left out, no I's left undotted, no T's left uncrossed. All of it was completed by Him coming here and giving His life on the Cross. That was the fulfilling of that old law, as is easily seen through studying and rightly dividing the Word. When Jesus died on that Cross it fulfilled ALL that was left of the law. It was completed before the end of time, and as such His statement in verse 18 was true. It may not have been the end of time, but it doesn't matter because nothing passed from that law, it having been completed. Because He stated it the way that He did, it leaves much that could still happen after heaven and earth pass. One possibility being that any number of commandments, or descriptions could be removed from those old laws, and thereby clearing, or excusing, some from past times sins. There's much that's left of possibilities, because od those statements. That's not the issue though. What is, is if the law could be fulfilled prior to the end. There's nothing He said that would prevent it from being fulfilled, and fulfill it he did. While He lived He was under that law and therefore taught those, at that time, to obey the old law. He too obeyed it. As for His new covenant, He only taught of it to come. He didn't teach that any, of that time, should follow it. Rather they were to follow it upon it being put into place. It couldn't be until the old was ended. That old being done away w/upon His death, the new was established upon Christ having risen. There is no old law to follow as it has been fulfilled. Nothing was left undone either. Now it's complete and there can be the passing of heaven and earth, w/out there being a conflict between the two. Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
That dude Paul was selected, authorized, and directed, to say that he did, by Christ and God, so exactly what is your point? God amd Christ still say it. They just had Paul write it....you know similar to when you have your children take out the trash, or your boss has you to do a job. Paul,being and apostle, it was his job to teach others the Word. Some of which he did through his letters to some of the various congregations, all being authorized by God. That therefore making it God's Word, which would also make it Christ's.
Oh ya. Matt 5:17 doesn't exactly say that. It says until all be fulfilled. It was fulfilled, and as such that old law ended.
First let me say this: the way this site is set up to render on my device makes it very difficult to find who left what statement, or what it was in reference to. So, it's very possible that this has already been resolved, and I simply haven't stumbled onto it. If so, my apologies. Now,"this" being: The old laws were most definitely ended. They were nailed to cross and ended when Jesus died. Christians are not under the law. Laws are for those that would break the laws. A Christian wouldn't, intentionally, break the laws, therefore there's no reason for one to be under a law. (To be Christian one has to be Christlike/of Christ, and have Christ in them. Any that don't are not Christian. Christ being of God cannot sin. He being in a Christian, a Christian won't sin. Should what was a Christian sin, Christ is in them no more, thereby preventing them from being Christian.) The New Testimont is easy to understand, and it's very clear as to how a Christian will live and behave. At least it is to those of us that have searched out, and been revealed the truth. I suppose for those that don't know Christ or God, it's rather overwhelming. That being because the Bible, having been worded, or directed,by God, and God being from above, makes His Word [Bible] also from above, and it's not for those that are not Christian to fully understand the things of above. In fact some things are hidden from those that fail to know the truth. In other words don't be all upset that you can't understand the Bible, or that Christians tell of one thing while you read some other meaning into it. It's supposed to be that way, as you're not capable of fully understanding it. You'd be much better off being upset as to WHY you can't understand it. If you researched that, and then did what is necessary to understand it, it would all make much more sense to you. Unless you do you're wasting your time trying to make heads or tails out of the Word of God. Sometimes I think it'd be easier if He'd made it so all could understand. Then, if nothing else, I see a humorous side of God. It's kin of nice actually knowing something much more important than some of the greatest masterminds to ever have lived. It gets rather old they being able to know, and figure out, things most of us will never have a clue about. Then when one stops and thinks, it's realized that the mastermind doesn't really know anything of importance. Really, and truthfully, though it's quite sad the state they, and most, are actually in. Seek the truth and ye shall find it. To do so though you have to be willing to accept that most of what you thought to be true is, in fact, not.
And yet another commit by someone that obviously has no clue about what they're saying, or if it's even correct. Why people spout stuff off w/first verifying it is beyond me. I don't mean verifying it by listening to what many others say either, or by picking a few words from here and there - such as a verse or even a few chapters of the Bible - either. I mean actually verifying it through facts. And here's a verifiable fact: Christians are not told to kill anyone. In fact they are told to not kill anyone. That is according to what Christians use as their guide - the Word of God, aka: the Bible. Something else may say that Christians are to kill, but it'd be irrelevant as Christians are not obligated to obey any other than God/Christ. Please get your words strait, and correct, before posting them. If you doubt that I say, & I hope you do, check the source and you'll find what I say is true.